Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
PHP code sample to do the tinyURL bit... ? $link = mysql_connect(MYSQLHOST, MYSQLUSER, MYSQLPASS) or die(Could not connect); mysql_select_db(MYSQLDB) or die(Could not select database); $strURL=http://invalidvaluelocation;; $result2 = mysql_query(SELECT strURL FROM tblRedirects WHERE

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Fearghas McKay
On 7 Nov 2007, at 06:00, Brian Butterworth wrote: On 06/11/2007, Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 16:12 + 6/11/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: If the TV Licence was changed to a BBC Licence, it could be collected by the Internet ISPs on top of their monthly charges, which

Re: [backstage] BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter

2007-11-07 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Hi Andy - in fact we're very lucky that Mark from the OSC has kindly agreed to come in an be interviewed for the next backstage podcast - we're aiming to get it done this week and will be asking others to join in - mainly some of the guys who actually built iPlayer... It's not minutes from the

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread vijay chopra
I couldn't agree more. The problem seems to be that everyone has bought the DRM snake oil, and no one is willing to admit they got it wrong. Indeed I'm sure there are many people who still believe that DRM is the solution to a problem*; and no one in the broadcasting industry seems to be capable

RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Andrew Bowden
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth On 06/11/2007, Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 16:12 + 6/11/07, Brian Butterworth wrote:

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rules for this discussion forum is deploy filters. If you are offended, please stop reading. There is no need to consider flaming. That's not an excuse for Ad Hominem attacks - which could easily get you kicked if someone

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread Andy
On 06/11/2007, David McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and then later realised that: What do you mean realised later? These are the kind of things that would be in the feasibility study. 10 minutes with even a half way competent engineer would have shown you that proprietary technology was

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Adam
Brian, I hope your not using the code below anywhere as it looks wide open to SQL Injection. Adam Quoting Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PHP code sample to do the tinyURL bit... ? $link = mysql_connect(MYSQLHOST, MYSQLUSER, MYSQLPASS) or die(Could not connect);

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
LOL On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rules for this discussion forum is deploy filters. If you are offended, please stop reading. There is no need to consider flaming. That's not an excuse for Ad Hominem

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth On 06/11/2007, Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 16:12 + 6/11/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: If the

Re: [backstage] BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Leighton
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:29:39PM +, vijay chopra wrote: I notice Ashley's misleading people again. From his blog-post: We do maximise the reach of our services by distributing our content via closed or prioprietary networks (Virgin Media, Sky, Tiscali TV/HomeChoice, mobile platforms,

Re: [backstage] BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Andy Leighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:29:39PM +, vijay chopra wrote: I notice Ashley's misleading people again. From his blog-post: We do maximise the reach of our services by distributing our content via closed or prioprietary networks

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, George Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:05:00 +, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Various parts of its non-DRM on demand radio proposals (book readings, classical music) failed the Public Value Test due to the BBC Trust's fears over

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Michael Sparks
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 06:03, Brian Butterworth wrote: On 07/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... It's not quite as simple as that. It's not to do with receiving broadcast television anymore, its

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Matthew Cashmore
I don¹t think it would do us any harm to be a little politer on here to each other sometimes But that¹s just me. In fact I¹m also of the opinion we should go back to signing all our letters with... Your obedient servant, m On 7/11/07 10:29, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:15:41 +, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like an unmanageable mess to me. I must prefer a database table, much easier to manage, especially if the short code is translated into a

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:15:41 +, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like an unmanageable mess to me. I must prefer a database table, much easier to manage, especially if the short code is translated into a integer. Or if that's the case you could make the algorithm two way

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That wouldn't be very dynamic, would it? You would have to restart the servers everytime you wanted to create a new one! Why would you ever want dynamic regex based rewrites? I thought we were talking about having short codes which

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on volumes and volatility of data, it may be 'insane' to have a database connection, query and teardown for every

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
I thought I was reponding to do not top post by top posting. It was supposed to be a joke. Sorry, if seemed otherwise. On 07/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would do us any harm to be a little politer on here to each other sometimes But that's just

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, I hope your not using the code below anywhere as it looks wide open to SQL Injection. Of course not. It was simply a response to the rather dumb suggestion of doing it via httpd.conf Adam Quoting Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Google OS (windows platform) 53.9% What's a windows platform? It's the thing that stops PUTs on the Jubilee Line extension? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Steff
Brian Butterworth wrote: Oh, and your quoting of entire emails takes up a LOT of space and make's it harder to read. Or you can use Gmail and it sorts it all for you. Not on the evidence of that post, it doesn't. I've just had to redo your quoting manually to make this make sense. S -

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:34:49 +, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are to be reproduced in newspapers and the like, then they codes really need to be case insensitive and treat zero/O and one/I as the same character. This would allow a total of 34 characters

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
1. Google OS (windows platform) 53.9% What's a windows platform? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
NEVAR JOKE! TEH INTRAWEBS ARE SERIOUS F**KING BUSINESS. On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I was reponding to do not top post by top posting. It was supposed to be a joke. Sorry, if seemed otherwise. On 07/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 07 November 2007 06:03, Brian Butterworth wrote: On 07/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... It's not quite as simple as that. It's not to do

RE: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread Kevin Hinde
Brian Butterworth said: £45 million a year is spent on BBC Radio 3. It seems a poor use of this spending to not allow the classical music to be podcasted, I was shocked when the Trust showed a certain myopia on this front. It's not like any of this music has copyright issues, for a

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on volumes and volatility of data, it may be 'insane' to have a database connection, query and teardown for every redirect, too. What works on the bench doesn't always

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
Depending on volumes and volatility of data, it may be 'insane' to have a database connection, query and teardown for every redirect, too. What works on the bench doesn't always work in the field... I would recommend against any method that involved network I/O for Apache. If you have large

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 07 November 2007 11:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 07/11/2007, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 07 November 2007 11:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails On

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
Or you can use Gmail and it sorts it all for you. Two points: 1) I may be using a phone, small screen or assistive device on which your emails can take pages and pages of scrolling to get to the real content - even then it could be confusing enough to miss. 2) I DO use Gmail (check the

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Google OS (windows platform) 53.9% What's a windows platform? Last time I checked, it was an OS. My question was really, how do you run an OS on top of another OS. Or rather,

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought we were talking about having short codes which could be used by something like go.bbc.co.uk/shortcode where new codes would be added everytime a new news story (or sport or whatever) came up. Yes - you can do this with a

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread nick richards
On 11/6/07, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget management, I fear you'll find that the BBC Trust's permission to offer 7 days catchup TV was predicated on using DRM. Various parts of its non-DRM on demand radio proposals (book readings, classical music) failed the Public Value

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
I thought we were talking about having short codes which could be used by something like go.bbc.co.uk/shortcode where new codes would be added everytime a new news story (or sport or whatever) came up. Yes - you can do this with a single regular expression. Oh, and your quoting of entire

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread Noah Slater
Anthony Anderson, managing director of Naxos UK, one of the biggest publishers of classical-music CDs, complained: By offering downloads for nothing, the BBC was distorting the marketplace. Is this what a public-sector broadcaster, largely funded by the licence fee, should be doing? Yes.

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Leighton
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 11:59:29AM +, Brian Butterworth wrote: On 07/11/2007, George Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:05:00 +, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Various parts of its non-DRM on demand radio proposals (book readings,

Re: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)

2007-11-07 Thread Richard Smedley
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 11:59 +, Brian Butterworth wrote: Various parts of its non-DRM on demand radio proposals (book readings, classical music) failed the Public Value Test due to the BBC Trust's fears over the negative market impact of non-DRM

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Steff Davies
Noah Slater wrote: What's a windows platform? Last time I checked, it was an OS. My question was really, how do you run an OS on top of another OS. Or rather, why would you want to. For the heck of it, perhaps? (This post brought to you by Nexenta* running under VMWare Server on Ubuntu

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread vijay chopra
On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEVAR JOKE! TEH INTRAWEBS ARE SERIOUS F**KING BUSINESS. And here I was thinking that they were just an ordinary series of tubes...

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on volumes and volatility of data, it may be 'insane' to have a database connection, query and teardown for every redirect, too. What works on the bench doesn't always work in the field... I would recommend against any method

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Jolly
Jonathan Tweed wrote: Don't forget to also drop at least u, otherwise you might end up with offensive short codes. You may have noticed that the programme ids don't have any vowels in them. This is deliberate ;-) Sounds like an interesting little algorithmic challenge - what shortcode

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Steff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Oh, and your quoting of entire emails takes up a LOT of space and make's it harder to read. Or you can use Gmail and it sorts it all for you. Not on the evidence of that post, it doesn't. I've just had to redo your

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Adam Lindsay
Steve Jolly wrote: Jonathan Tweed wrote: Don't forget to also drop at least u, otherwise you might end up with offensive short codes. You may have noticed that the programme ids don't have any vowels in them. This is deliberate ;-) Sounds like an interesting little algorithmic challenge -

Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again [off topic]

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Google OS (windows platform) 53.9% What's a windows platform? Last time I checked, it was an OS. My question was

Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails

2007-11-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 08/11/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Jolly wrote: Jonathan Tweed wrote: Don't forget to also drop at least u, otherwise you might end up with offensive short codes. You may have noticed that the programme ids don't have any vowels in them. This is deliberate ;-)