Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread David Greaves
Steve Jolly wrote: > David Greaves wrote: >> Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD signal into >> my Linux >> Myth PVR. > > I assume satellite isn't an option for you? Actually - brain fart... sorry ;) I'm mainly aware of the Sky HD channels which are completely OT here :) I

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 25/03/2008, Gareth Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD > > signal into my Linux > > Myth PVR. > > > BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V > 22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (r

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread ST
Quoting Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V 22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (rather then DVB-S2 like the Sky HD channels) so a normal DVB-S card and a dish set up for Sky Digital should do the job

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Matt Barber
> BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V > 22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (rather > then DVB-S2 like the Sky HD channels) so a normal DVB-S card and a dish > set up for Sky Digital should do the job. > I might give this a try, I've g

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Duncan Barnes
On 25/03/2008, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have heard a rumour that Freesat is will be launching around 5th May, so > it might be worth waiting a few weeks just incase anything changes. > Given the current progress on equipment installation for Freesat, I think early May is perhaps look

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Jolly
Gareth Davis wrote: I'll warn you that a lot of processing power is required to decode the H264 profile in real time. When the BBC were doing the HD DVB-T trials across London I had a go at trying to pick it up, and found that my 3Ghz P4 machine could only managed about 14 fps. At the risk of p

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Adam
Gareth Davis wrote: Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD signal into my Linux Myth PVR. BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V 22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (rather then DVB-S2 like the Sky HD channels) so

RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Gareth Davis
> Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD > signal into my Linux > Myth PVR. BBC HD is broadcast in the clear on Astra 2D (28.2E) at 10.847Ghz V 22000SR 5/6FEC, I'm pretty sure it is still broadcast as DVB-S (rather then DVB-S2 like the Sky HD channels) so a normal DVB-S card an

RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Gareth Davis
Part of the problem is that what one person might hear and what another person might hear is different. Whilst I know some people who can, personally I can't tell the difference between DAB Radio 2 and FM Radio 2 broadcast via the same set. Actually that's a lie. I ca

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Jolly
David Greaves wrote: Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD signal into my Linux Myth PVR. I assume satellite isn't an option for you? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_li

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread David Greaves
Andrew Bowden wrote: > > > The public don't know what they want! ;) Problem is they'll settle > for naff quality because they don't realise exactly what kind of > quality can be achieved from the technology, they merely accept the > broadcasted quality because they don't believe

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Richard Lockwood
I prefer Andrew's approach. Also in pubs, when someone decides to show off all the available ringtones on their new phone to their friend. Grr... Cheers, Rich. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Rupert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always say, "is that your phone ringing?" Seems to do t

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Rupert Watson
I always say, "is that your phone ringing?" Seems to do the trick if you keep it polite and faux naïve ;-) On 25/03/2008 09:31, "Andrew Bowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And lets not forget that we've now got a culture growing whereby teenagers > listen to music via appalling mobile loudspeak

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread James Cridland
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're interested in this stuff, then November should bring a really > interesting day from The Radio Academy, called 'Radio at the Edge'. I'll be > mentioning it ad nauseam later in the year, but thought I'd not t

RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Bowden
The public don't know what they want! ;) Problem is they'll settle for naff quality because they don't realise exactly what kind of quality can be achieved from the technology, they merely accept the broadcasted quality because they don't believe they can do anything about it, and there

RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-24 Thread Christopher Woods
I suspect you're a little confused about Olinda. It's not R&D's project (actually, it would be R&I now), but a project being funded and run by BBC Audio & Music Interactive, of which I'm Head of Future Media & Technology. So, I might know a thing or two about it. I thought you might ;) Oli

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-24 Thread James Cridland
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > DVB-H is fine, as long as you don't mind waiting ten seconds to change > channels (!!!) > > I doubt that'd remain as-is forever... Remember the first Sky digiboxes, > Freeview and DAB receivers? How sluggish they wer

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-23 Thread Brian Butterworth
If C36 (the radar frequency) was reallocated to a national DVB-T multiplex, it could be done soon. A UHF 8Mhz block can do up to 23.5Mb/s. If you are talking about MPEG-4, quarter-screen resolution (360x288) I am sure you could stuff 30 or-so TV channels on there. http://www.mobiletv.nokia.com/r

RE: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-23 Thread Christopher Woods
> DVB-H is fine, as long as you don't mind waiting ten seconds to change channels (!!!) or waiting until 2011 for the frequencies to be freed up in the UK. I doubt that'd remain as-is forever... Remember the first Sky digiboxes, Freeview and DAB receivers? How sluggish they were? As device power i

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-22 Thread James Cridland
Don't confuse the DAB IP telly stuff from BT Movio with proper telly over DAB. That standard is called T-DMB and it's excellent quality. It's in use in various places, including South Korea. The cold, dead hand of Microsoft goes nowhere near T-DMB. DVB-H is fine, as long as you don't mind

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-20 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 19/03/2008, Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's the firsthand info: > > > http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/08/451&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en Thanks for the links. The speech made me think ... if DVB-H gets adopted and used, which seems

Re: [backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-19 Thread Sean DALY
Here's the firsthand info: http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/08/451&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en Also Commissioner Reding's speech I alluded to in the DRM thread the other day discusses this: http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=SPEEC

[backstage] DVB-H finally gets formal adoption by the EC (oh and vista SP1!)

2008-03-19 Thread Brian Butterworth
* http://www.betanews.com/article/DVBH_finally_gets_formal_adoption_by_the_EC/1205874432 * ** *"It's official, so now the process can finally begin for a national licensing system for terrestrial broadcasters that exclusively service mobile devices.* This time, it actually happened: The European C