Further to all the discussion in this thread about HD, it would occur to me
that what would be really cool is to see an 'Also in HD' overlay on an SD
channel when the programme is being simulcast in HD. Hitting that colour
(hey, use blue) and it'll pop over to the BBC HD channel. Neat.
I don't
On 13/04/2008, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Further to all the discussion in this thread about HD, it would occur to
me that what would be really cool is to see an 'Also in HD' overlay on an SD
channel when the programme is being simulcast in HD. Hitting that colour
(hey, use blue)
I'll really pleased to hear that there is a good chance
that the text and interactive services on Freesat are going to be HD.
The HD abilities of the MHEG profile on Freesat are rather nice. But we
won't be using them yet.
I'm wondering if they will be animated, like little vignets
Yes, there is always a certain problem with the need to provide
local and regional data from a satellite that covers the whole of the
EU!
I would personally welcome the effort of putting a zoomable,
animated weather system on Freesat. It would be a very BBC thing to
do, of
Currently the service broadcasts blocks of comedy and science fiction
(7th
Dimension), as well as children's (CBeebies) and drama. It would
be nice if these
blocks could be rebroadcast all day in an interactive loop, so you
could come to BBC 7
during the CBeebies block, press RED and
Ah well, as some of my colleagues in Nations and Regions
are very keen on saying most activities and purchases take place within
a dozen miles from home. The average commute is 13 miles, and that's
about the furthest people tend to go (see Average distance normally
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The BBC Freesat boxes are under BBC control and 101 could be BBC (your
region) One HD and 1 02 BBC (your nation) Two HD.
Actually, Freesat boxes are ultimately under the control of Freesat (UK)
TV, which is a joint venture between BBC
Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 26/03/2008, *Steve Jolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you're underestimating the difficulties. And ignoring the
costs. :-) Bear in mind that you can't make any changes that would
break the millions of installed Sky STBs.
On 27/03/2008, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 26/03/2008, *Steve Jolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you're underestimating the difficulties. And ignoring the
costs. :-) Bear in mind that you can't make any changes
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The BBC Freesat boxes are under BBC control and
101 could be BBC (your region) One HD and 1 02 BBC (your nation) Two
HD.
Actually, Freesat boxes are ultimately under the control
of
Just to backup the point about the need for simplicity in the HD offer...
http://www.betanews.com/article/Analysts_US_consumers_like_HDTVs_better_than_HD_programming/1206484078
*Fully 41 percent of TV owners in the US now possess a high definition TV,
yet only 56 percent of those same consumers
As I pointed out before, it would only be the Sky HD boxes that
would need reprogramming. The Freesat boxes have not been released yet,
so they can be fixed.
Getting Sky to re-programme their set top boxes just to suit the BBC is
highly unlikely to happen. To be frank, it's
On 27/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The BBC Freesat boxes are under BBC control and 101 could be BBC (your
region) One HD and 1 02 BBC (your nation) Two HD.
Actually, Freesat boxes are ultimately under the
On 27/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I pointed out before, it would only be the Sky HD boxes that would
need reprogramming. The Freesat boxes have not been released yet, so they
can be fixed.
Getting Sky to re-programme their set top boxes just to suit the BBC is
Unless I'm very much mistaken, always using
pre-configured audio tracks - they just play out default audio when not
in use.
Is that to say that the boxes switch back to Audio 0 when
there is nothing on the AD track, or that the AD tracks are fed with the
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Brian Butterworth wrote:
I have no idea why Sky do this. Why on earth would I want to watch the SD
version of a channel if I can watch it in HD.
I don't know exactly how the Sky system works, but perhaps you want to
record it in SD to watch it on
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Let's assume that there is going to be a single transponder used for BBC
HD. Instead of just having a single stream of BBC HD, it has six
streams that usually occupy 3Mb/s each, leaving plenty for one of the
streams to be in HD at full bitrate.
To take just this
And I'm sure several people from box manufacturers would be
nodding their head with that.
Perhaps. However, I understood these boxes will come with
software that can be updated.
Yep. But can the hardware do what the software wants it to do?
On 27/03/2008, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Brian Butterworth wrote:
I have no idea why Sky do this. Why on earth would I want to watch
the SD
version of a channel if I can watch it in HD.
I don't know exactly how the Sky system
On 27/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I'm sure several people from box manufacturers would be nodding their
head with that.
Perhaps. However, I understood these boxes will come with software that
can be updated.
Yep. But can the hardware do what the software wants
On 27/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They seem to manage it OK when using systems like BBCi which can
change
transponder in the middle of a session! All the OpenTV apps can do
this...
perhaps MHEG5 isn't up to it?
It works, although we hide the transision which is not
Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 27/03/2008, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Brian
Butterworth wrote:
I have no idea why Sky do this. Why on earth would
I want to watch the SD
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:10:03PM +0100, Brian Butterworth wrote:
I can't see the logic in that. If you have a HD box, you can replay the
HD content as SD. But why would you buy a HD box if you can't watch HD?
Perhaps you're recording a programme for someone who doesn't have a HD box
On 27/03/2008, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 27/03/2008, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Brian Butterworth wrote:
I have no idea why Sky do this. Why on earth would I want to watch
the SD
Freesat will have a mixture of HD and SD channels (exact lineup still to
be announced). The BBC will be using the same physical video streams
that are used on the Sky platform, so the only HD channel from the BBC
will continue to be BBC HD.
From: [EMAIL
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Is it true that the new BBC/ITV Freesat service (starting 5th May) will
be HD only?
The Freesat website implies that HD programming will be broadcast in
addition to SD.
http://www.freesat.co.uk/what_is_it.php
S
-
Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group.
Thanks. I know what's on the website, my understanding is that the
proposition has changed from a Freeview where you can't get it to a HD
service.
Obviously the service will be able to receive the MPEG2 services from the
23.2 east position, but my understanding is that the box spec will have
] Is Freesat going to be HD only?
Thanks. I know what's on the website, my understanding is that
the proposition has changed from a Freeview where you can't get it to
a HD service.
Obviously the service will be able to receive the MPEG2 services
from
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Freesat will have a mixture of HD and SD channels (exact lineup still to
be announced). The BBC will be using the same physical video streams that
are used on the Sky platform, so the only HD channel from the BBC will
continue to be BBC
.
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Sent: 26 March 2008 13:45
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Is Freesat going to be HD only?
On 26
On 26/03/2008, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Freesat will have a mixture of HD and SD channels (exact lineup still
to be announced). The BBC will be using the same physical video streams
that are used on
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It still would be better to have four TV streams that are BBC ONE HD, BBC
TWO HD, BBC THREE/CBBC HD, BBC FOUR/CBeebie HD which can get the full MPEG4
capacity at the simulcast point and then revert to standard (720x576i)
mode for the
On 26/03/2008, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The BBC Freesat boxes are under BBC control and 101 could be BBC (your
region) One HD and 1 02 BBC (your nation) Two HD.
Actually, Freesat boxes are ultimately under the control of Freesat (UK)
TV, which is a joint venture between BBC
Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 26/03/2008, *Andrew Bowden* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Each region however has its own, permanent, dedicated video stream
which broadcasts 24/7. I can't think of any channel on Sky which
reconfigures its video configuration on the fly (e.g.
Brian Butterworth wrote:
I think you are confusing Freeview with Freesat. On Freesat the
multiple services are statmuxed together, on Freeview BBC ONE is in
4.9Mb/s, apart from Scotland, Wales and NI where the extra two radio
channels mean the whole of mux 1 is statmuxed.
I might be wrong,
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