RE: [backstage-developer] Accessing http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from PHP
that threw me too, but it's the last element of each broadcast: start2008-04-28T00:50:00+01:00/start best-- --cs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Butterworth Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 9:34 AM To: backstage-developer@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage-developer] Accessing http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from PHP 2008/5/19 Paul Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Add .xml to the end of a schedule URL to get an XML representation, or .json for JSON. The format of the .xml and .json representations isn't fixed yet, but we're interested in any feedback from people using them. The XML (ie http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2008/04/28.xml) has: duration3600/duration end2008-04-29T04:10:00+01:00/end Which is bit of an odd way of presenting schedules, even if it there is a certainly logic to it. Might be easier for general use to have the start as well? -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage-developer] Accessing http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from PHP
Using this URL (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/2008/04/28.xml), I've got (same with the .json instead of .xml): Unable to find template schedules/show_outlets at Controllers/Schedules.pm line 326 Iain - Original Message From: Paul Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage-developer@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Monday, 19 May, 2008 8:54:57 PM Subject: Re: [backstage-developer] Accessing http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from PHP We updated the /programmes site today and there are some new views that might be of use... See all programmes on a service with broadcasts +/- 7 days from now at /:service/programmes/a-z http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/a-z http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/programmes/a-z Add /all to remove the 7 day restriction, or /player to show just the programmes with episodes available in iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/programmes/a-z/all http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/programmes/a-z/player Search within a service by adding /by/:search after /a-z: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/a-z/by/e http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/a-z/by/doctor http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/a-z/by/food/all Or search within all radio, all tv (soon), or all BBC services: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/a-z/by/chris/player http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/programmes/a-z/by/east (soon) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z/by/skating/all With one known and soon to be fixed exception, all the /programmes pages should be valid XML (and XHTML!), and hopefully easy to process with XPath etc. Not new, but you can fetch schedule data through the /programmes site. Today's schedules: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/programmes/schedules Or a schedule for a particular date: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2008/04/28 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/schedules/england/2008/05/22 (Unfortunately, BBC One and BBC Two data outside the London and England regions can be patchy; we're working on improving that.) Add .xml to the end of a schedule URL to get an XML representation, or .json for JSON. The format of the .xml and .json representations isn't fixed yet, but we're interested in any feedback from people using them. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote some code a while ago that goes though the BBC programme catalogue at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z and creates a database table that I used to work out what the correct iPlayer picture code to use for each, matching them up against the programme schedules from http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.schedule.getProgrammeschannel_id=$strChannelstart=$strDTSend=$strDTElimit=100detail=schedule For some reason I can access http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from a browser, but doing a file_get_contents(http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z;) from PHP just locks up. Is this intentional? I'm just having another go at making a 'what's on now' iGoogle theme for BBC channels... Brian Butterworth - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [backstage-developer] Accessing http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from PHP
Unfortunately we don't have any broadcast data for those two channels in the PIPs database at the moment. The full list of available channels can be seen in the Schedules box at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes I'll have to defer to other BBC people on the exact timescales but we are actively working on filling in the gaps in the PIPs data, particularly things like the patchy regional schedule data for BBC One and BBC Two; we'll make sure people are kept up to date as progress is made. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and also the BBCi Sport interactive? 2008/5/20 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What's the syntax for BBC HD please? http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbchd/programmes/schedules/ gives me a 404... 2008/5/19 Paul Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We updated the /programmes site today and there are some new views that might be of use... See all programmes on a service with broadcasts +/- 7 days from now at /:service/programmes/a-z http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/a-z http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/programmes/a-z Add /all to remove the 7 day restriction, or /player to show just the programmes with episodes available in iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/programmes/a-z/all http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/programmes/a-z/player Search within a service by adding /by/:search after /a-z: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/a-z/by/e http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/a-z/by/doctor http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/a-z/by/food/all Or search within all radio, all tv (soon), or all BBC services: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/a-z/by/chris/player http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/programmes/a-z/by/east (soon) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z/by/skating/all With one known and soon to be fixed exception, all the /programmes pages should be valid XML (and XHTML!), and hopefully easy to process with XPath etc. Not new, but you can fetch schedule data through the /programmes site. Today's schedules: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/programmes/schedules Or a schedule for a particular date: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2008/04/28 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/schedules/england/2008/05/22 (Unfortunately, BBC One and BBC Two data outside the London and England regions can be patchy; we're working on improving that.) Add .xml to the end of a schedule URL to get an XML representation, or .json for JSON. The format of the .xml and .json representations isn't fixed yet, but we're interested in any feedback from people using them. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote some code a while ago that goes though the BBC programme catalogue at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z and creates a database table that I used to work out what the correct iPlayer picture code to use for each, matching them up against the programme schedules from http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.schedule.getProgrammesamp;channel_id=$strChannelamp;start=$strDTSamp;end=$strDTEamp;limit=100amp;detail=schedule For some reason I can access http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from a browser, but doing a file_get_contents(http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z;) from PHP just locks up. Is this intentional? I'm just having another go at making a 'what's on now' iGoogle theme for BBC channels... Brian Butterworth - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message. -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message.
Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
Christopher Woods wrote: Personally I'd rather have naff analogue with continuous audio where I can gist the few words I miss, rather than have a lossy (moreso than analogue, arguably) digital signal with squelchy audio and dropouts every so often. I put up with it on my PC's freeview receiver, but I still find myself wandering into the kitchen to tune in on the analogue set. I think I'm a bit strange. IIRC subjective quality tests have shown that poor quality audio causes a reduction in reported *video* quality of one point on the CCIR 5-point subjective quality scale. I can probably dig out a reference if anyone's sufficiently interested. Which suggests that people in general are even weirder than you think that you are, if that's any comfort. :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
FWIW, I think not everyone is the same in this regard. Personally, I also prefer to watch a clear picture with picture sound breaking up occasionally than every programme behind a snow scene, no matter how perfect the audio might be. I'd rather just listen to the radio if the latter was the case! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 20 May 2008 02:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels You'd think... But then my first flat in London barely managed to get analogue... I actually got a digital box in the first place because it offered a better picture! A clear picture that broke up once every 90 seconds was preferable to watching fuzz and snow. Interesting you should say that, I was thinking about this whilst watching the footie on the TV the other day - our analogue reception is awful (and we don't have a roof aerial where we are at the moment, so it's bunny ears all round) and whilst the picture is awful, bar a few moments of static the audio is quite fine. The contiguousness of the audio also helps with tolerance - I can quite happily tolerate a poor quality video feed if the audio's fine. Same goes for cinema - people seem to put up with awful quality video so long as the sound's good (odd really, a strange psychological thing which must have some link with the way our brains interpret natural sound, and the way it introduces its aural coping mechanisms when our eyes are starved of sufficient input). Personally I'd rather have naff analogue with continuous audio where I can gist the few words I miss, rather than have a lossy (moreso than analogue, arguably) digital signal with squelchy audio and dropouts every so often. I put up with it on my PC's freeview receiver, but I still find myself wandering into the kitchen to tune in on the analogue set. I think I'm a bit strange. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
The only option then was really to use the NTL analogue feed they put down the coax. Friendly engineer gave us some F type ends and cable and we could at least get 1 to 4. And Sky one audio on the FM. The old NYNEX FM hook up - that takes me back. It seemed amazing at the time, to get stereo sound on some channels you could tune into them on your FM radio instead. I didn't have a NICAM TV then, and NICAM support was a bit hit and miss on the old Scientific Atlanta 8600 series boxes anyway. And as an added bonus you got a cable exclusive station and a few international stations thrown in too, like VOA and the BBC World Service. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC Schedule theme for iGoogle...
Just run up a quick test theme for iGoogle - using the new data from the new format bbc.co.uk/programmes site: http://www.google.co.uk/ig?hl=enskin=http://www.ukfree.tv/igoogle/igoogle-theme-BBC-schedule.xml It should change every hour to show the programmes on during that hour on BBC one, TWO, three, FOUR, CBBC, Cbeebies and News. Any feedback appreciated. 2008/5/19 Paul Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We updated the /programmes site today and there are some new views that might be of use... See all programmes on a service with broadcasts +/- 7 days from now at /:service/programmes/a-z http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/a-z http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/programmes/a-z Add /all to remove the 7 day restriction, or /player to show just the programmes with episodes available in iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/programmes/a-z/all http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/programmes/a-z/player Search within a service by adding /by/:search after /a-z: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/a-z/by/e http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/a-z/by/doctor http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/a-z/by/food/all Or search within all radio, all tv (soon), or all BBC services: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/a-z/by/chris/player http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/programmes/a-z/by/east (soon) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z/by/skating/all With one known and soon to be fixed exception, all the /programmes pages should be valid XML (and XHTML!), and hopefully easy to process with XPath etc. Not new, but you can fetch schedule data through the /programmes site. Today's schedules: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/programmes/schedules Or a schedule for a particular date: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2008/04/28 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/schedules/england/2008/05/22 (Unfortunately, BBC One and BBC Two data outside the London and England regions can be patchy; we're working on improving that.) Add .xml to the end of a schedule URL to get an XML representation, or .json for JSON. The format of the .xml and .json representations isn't fixed yet, but we're interested in any feedback from people using them. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote some code a while ago that goes though the BBC programme catalogue at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z and creates a database table that I used to work out what the correct iPlayer picture code to use for each, matching them up against the programme schedules from http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.schedule.getProgrammesamp;channel_id=$strChannelamp;start=$strDTSamp;end=$strDTEamp;limit=100amp;detail=schedule For some reason I can access http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z from a browser, but doing a file_get_contents(http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z;) from PHP just locks up. Is this intentional? I'm just having another go at making a 'what's on now' iGoogle theme for BBC channels... Brian Butterworth - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message. -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
[backstage] Soundindex
This has to be a target for Backstage http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Soundindex
Yes, and RSS feed would be a good idea.. http://www.ukfree.tv/igoogle/soundindex_rss.php 2008/5/20 Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This has to be a target for Backstage http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
