On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 13:15 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote:
> The point about this Apple/EMI deal is that they have costed out
> the"cost" of non-DRM. This is very significant, and something
> MilesMetcalfe suggested in the DRM Podcast.
The BBC Trust had already done that. Despite the likelihood^Wcer
Hi all,
I am surprised that this thread has pointed so strongly toward the
price hike and quality as being risky.
Please let me be concise with some of the facts
Steve Jobs noted that about 3% of music on all iPods is copied from
CD.. CD that is already non-DRM and sold by the major
On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When does radio become a "music distribution service"?
When it goes out over TCP/IP, because of http://streamripper.sourceforge.net
People like last.fm are riding a fine line here right?
I heard they aren't licensed.
http://www.stat
> On 03/04/07, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone have a clue?
Peter Bowyer wrote:
> No more than you I guess
So for those xmltv users here on the BBC backstage
I saw this message from Nick in another couple of lists and thought it worth
forwarding here - cc'ing Nick out
The BBC delivers quite a bit of music as a service... bit different to
what the author meant though I'm sure.
When does radio become a "music distribution service"? People like
last.fm are riding a fine line here right?
J
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On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Excellent article from The Register...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/03/emi_apple_drm_analysis/
Concluding line: "Do we cease to pay artists completely, or do we move
to a model where music is a service? Thanks to EMI and Apple, t
Excellent article from The Register...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/03/emi_apple_drm_analysis/
J
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Hi Kim!
On 03/04/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Dave lab66
lol :-)
I'm sure you make similar good points in your email but it> has come through with
little whitespace and is near illegible. Might be> a problem with your client?
Didn't do anything unusual, guess GMail messed it u
On 03/04/07, David Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The reason why the price is higher is because they feel they can charge it;
that people will buy it at that price; and that overall they think they'll
make more money by offering the service than not.
Or maybe they're introducing a premium-pri
I'm not convinced that when it's all boiled down that torrents/piracy has
much to do with it. People don't [necessarily/always] know when they
download a torrent if there's DRM attached in much the same way as they
don't know if a tarball/zip file is password protected. The content is being
confus
> > You'd pay $30 and up for an album on CD? Are you mad?
> >
> > I suppose you do get a convenient hard copy backup too...
>
> Apple won't be changing the album price.
Not the point I was making. Ian was saying he'd pay $3 for an un DRMed
high quality track; which is a *silly price* when you c
Hi Tim!
On 03/04/07, Tim Cowlishaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
in areas of the
world where internet access is not yet as common as here, DRM is much more
prevalent, as they are attempting to lock down the recorded music market
*before* pervasive internet access becomes a problem for their busine
On 4/3/07, Daniel Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that many CDs have some form of DRM on them.
I was under the impression that DRM'd CDs were flawed, and have largely
stopped being sold? (Not to mention the bad public reaction of people
using their pc as a hifi buying a cd only to find
Hi Jason!
On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Yes, of course. However, I said
"more people put the unDRMed file on the> torrents". The file without DRM will be easier to
distribute, therefore> perhaps more people will.
The point about this Apple/EMI deal is that they have c
> Note that many CDs have some form of DRM on them.
I was under the impression that DRM'd CDs were flawed, and have largely
stopped being sold? (Not to mention the bad public reaction of people
using their pc as a hifi buying a cd only to find it not working!)
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21
On 03/04/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Note that many CDs have some form of DRM on them.
And that recently the publishers stopped putting DRM on CDs, because
they've realised that hurting their customers only hurts them.
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You'd pay $30 and up for an album on CD? Are you mad?
I suppose you do get a convenient hard copy backup too...
Apple won't be changing the album price.
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On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, of course. However, I said "more people put the unDRMed file on the
torrents". The file without DRM will be easier to distribute, therefore
perhaps more people will.
Apart from the fact that once the DRM is stripped no one else has t
On 03/04/07, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi
I just joined the list to find out about the xmltv feed :)
When I got a couple of emails I found the link to the archives. The last message
about this seems to be on the 29th when the site came back on air.
However, as people probably re
Hi
I just joined the list to find out about the xmltv feed :)
When I got a couple of emails I found the link to the archives. The last message
about this seems to be on the 29th when the site came back on air.
However, as people probably realise the data isn't being updated anymore.
Does anyone
Yes, of course. However, I said "more people put the unDRMed file on the
torrents". The file without DRM will be easier to distribute, therefore
perhaps more people will.
J
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