Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
At 19:30 +0100 18/4/07, Tom Loosemore wrote: On 18/04/07, Gordon Joly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 16:39 +0100 18/4/07, Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Outside of the framework debate... The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. Exclusively I can now tell you that the register your interest form is up (16:30). So if your interested in taking part in the trial, go to http://bbc.co.uk/archivehttp://bbc.co.uk/archive now. Many thanks for your time - unfortunately due to the specifications of this trial, we are not currently aiming to recruit past or present BBC staff. !!! yep, and quite right too, if the BBC Trust's decision making is not just impartial but seen to be impartial. Allowing BBC staff past or present to join put the latter at risk, since the data from this trial will form the core empirical input into the BBC Trust's Public Value Test on the Open Archive (which is separate from iPlayer 'catch up' Public Value Test, the decision on which is due soonish. That's why they need so much personal data, to make sure the sample is balanced across a whole series of dimensions to reflect the UK population as a whole (hence UK only) We're also gonna release 50 hours for download by anyone in the UK, whether on the trial or not. - oh, and it's all non-DRM'd, albeit geo-IP'd I see. Very balanced. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
On 19/04/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one we want you all signed up too. http://hackday.org The invitation to the Google Developers Day was a little bit more informative, and they were 'thrilled' I wanted to come. The hackday page stresses that my credentials will be inspected. Not sure that i want to have my credentials inspected.
RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Do you think it's a generation gap thing? Or, like that recent article I read on DigitalSpy about the results of the DAB quality survey, people who don't vocalise their concern about lowering quality just don't fully understand what a good quality stream should look / sound like? Admittedly this is maybe bordering on digital snobbery (What? Sub-4mbps bitrates in this video file? OUTRAGEOUS! JEEVES - GET THE BBC TRUST ON THE LINE IMMEDIATELY etc...) but I do believe that a lot of people maybe can subconsciously detect that a stream or broadcast isn't great quality, but as they have no obvious benchmark to go against, or have no real grasp of the potential quality that can be achieved using even the present incumbent formats, they don't voice their concern or complaint about it? I have a DAB radio and I confess I can't tell the difference between (say) Radio 2 on FM and Radio 2 on DAB. I know some audiophiles who look at me in disbelief when I say that. And anyway it's actually a slight lie. When I try to compare them, the thing I notice most is the FM hiss. I'm far better on visual artifacts I must say. Interestingly though a colleague of mine from BBC News told me that surveys have shown people are far more likely to put up with a dodgy video picture if the sound is clean and crisp. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Hey we¹d be thrilled if you¹d come too! It¹s going to be an absolute blast. The Yahoo! One in the states last year was really successful and I think that we can do better. The cool thing this year is that it¹s Yahoo! and the BBC, there¹s going to be so much going on I was up at Alexandra Palace on Monday doing a walk through and working out how the wi-fi is going to work (not to mention where we¹re going to put the stage for the band - it¹s not Beck). I appreciate the language on the site isn¹t grand I¹m not happy with it either but you know how these things go once the lawyers get their hands on things... I promise it¹s going to be very cool. The important thing for us is that it¹s an event for hackers not business networkers 400 people who actually build stuff in one room, with pizza, beer, wi-fi and cool swag... Come on... How can you say no! So Go sign up now... (and ignore the language!) http://hackday.org m On 19/4/07 10:22, Richard Hyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The invitation to the Google Developers Day was a little bit more informative, and they were 'thrilled' I wanted to come. The hackday page stresses that my credentials will be inspected. Not sure that i want to have my credentials inspected.
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Hey Richard, The language on the site is a bit formal, I know, but really it's with the best of motives. We want to make sure that people who can build and make things will be able to come and that they won't be squeezed out by a bunch of people looking to boost their Linked In profiles. I think Matt and Ian will be posting more here shortly about the day, and there's more information on my site and the Yahoo Developer Network site in the meantime. Tom Coates http://www.plasticbag.org/ On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:22, Richard Hyett wrote: On 19/04/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one we want you all signed up too. http://hackday.org The invitation to the Google Developers Day was a little bit more informative, and they were 'thrilled' I wanted to come. The hackday page stresses that my credentials will be inspected. Not sure that i want to have my credentials inspected. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Lol! I think you might be a bit old school ;-) m On 19/4/07 11:45, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? On 4/19/07, gareth rushgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll I've signed up. I'm now just hoping I get picked! Who do we have to bribe again? G On 19/04/07, Tom Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Richard, The language on the site is a bit formal, I know, but really it's with the best of motives. We want to make sure that people who can build and make things will be able to come and that they won't be squeezed out by a bunch of people looking to boost their Linked In profiles. I think Matt and Ian will be posting more here shortly about the day, and there's more information on my site and the Yahoo Developer Network site in the meantime. Tom Coates http://www.plasticbag.org/ On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:22, Richard Hyett wrote: On 19/04/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one we want you all signed up too. http://hackday.org The invitation to the Google Developers Day was a little bit more informative, and they were 'thrilled' I wanted to come. The hackday page stresses that my credentials will be inspected. Not sure that i want to have my credentials inspected. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gareth Rushgrove morethanseven.net http://morethanseven.net webdesignbookshelf.com http://webdesignbookshelf.com refreshnewcastle.org http://refreshnewcastle.org frontendarchitecture.com http://frontendarchitecture.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC4B5, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TS T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
RE: [backstage] Hack day in London
Anyone on the backstage list must be l33t enough ;) Ian Forrester Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC4 B4, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7RJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 02080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oliver wood Sent: 19 April 2007 11:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? On 4/19/07, gareth rushgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll I've signed up. I'm now just hoping I get picked! Who do we have to bribe again? G On 19/04/07, Tom Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Richard, The language on the site is a bit formal, I know, but really it's with the best of motives. We want to make sure that people who can build and make things will be able to come and that they won't be squeezed out by a bunch of people looking to boost their Linked In profiles. I think Matt and Ian will be posting more here shortly about the day, and there's more information on my site and the Yahoo Developer Network site in the meantime. Tom Coates http://www.plasticbag.org/ On 19 Apr 2007, at 10:22, Richard Hyett wrote: On 19/04/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one we want you all signed up too. http://hackday.org The invitation to the Google Developers Day was a little bit more informative, and they were 'thrilled' I wanted to come. The hackday page stresses that my credentials will be inspected. Not sure that i want to have my credentials inspected. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gareth Rushgrove morethanseven.net webdesignbookshelf.com refreshnewcastle.org frontendarchitecture.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Ian Forrester wrote: Anyone on the backstage list must be l33t enough ;) Can we hold you to that? Dave... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Andrew Bowden wrote: I'm far better on visual artifacts I must say. Interestingly though a colleague of mine from BBC News told me that surveys have shown people are far more likely to put up with a dodgy video picture if the sound is clean and crisp. Yes, it's well known (and proved) that you can do what you want with the picture if the sound is OK. -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
From Wikipedia Leet or Leetspeak (1337 or 13375p34k) is a writing system used primarily on the Internet, but nowadays also in most online video games as well,[1] which uses various combinations of alphanumerics to replace proper letters. I confess I had to look it up, I think I'd better go and brush up on my 'linked in' entry.
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
On 4/19/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's well known (and proved) that you can do what you want with the picture if the sound is OK. True but a slight exaggeration - A certain level of video quality still qualifies as an acceptable threshold, IMO. In addition, crystal clear sound and crystal clear vision are both pretty useless if they're not in sync. Cheers, Tim
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Tim Cowlishaw wrote: True but a slight exaggeration - A certain level of video quality still qualifies as an acceptable threshold, IMO. In addition, crystal clear sound and crystal clear vision are both pretty useless if they're not in sync. Indeed. But as long as the glitches are small and the audio doesn't glitch at the same time as the video (or vice-versa), you'd be surprised what you can get away with. -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
/me guesses, somehow, that the denizens of this list are somewhat demographically homogeneous. I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already full. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
No way Kim, I'm NOT normal. ;-) On 19 Apr 2007, at 13:28, Kim Plowright wrote: /me guesses, somehow, that the denizens of this list are somewhat demographically homogeneous. I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already full. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
I've put my name down, my interpretation is anyone's welcome as long as you are interested in, and capable of understanding, the list of previous hacks and ideas at http://developer.yahoo.net/hackday, so that we don't get what yesterday's FOWD conference was like, marketing types proudly showing their showreel. It's a tough one though, how to 'vet' an audience to ensure a certain vibe, without coming off really pretentious. James Darling http://abscond.org On 19 Apr 2007, at 13:22, Tim Cowlishaw wrote: On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certified users (ie, license fee payers ;)) only which would permit some kind of higher bandwidth product. I've never really felt comfortable with distributed P2P for content that I've paid for. It's great when bittorrent is used for transfering ubuntu iso's around (as it's members of a community helping others in the same community), it's less great but at least makes some sense when it's used for piracy (as it's still a members of a community helping other members in a community, all be it an illicit one) but when it comes to content that I'm paying somebody to send to me, I don't see why I should waste my upload bandwith for someone else's business model. Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Scot - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day
i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07, Tom Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've sent an email to the Developer Day address asking if that thank you for your RSVP email means that I've been accepted. There's only a few cheap train tickets left, but I'd like to make sure I'm confirmed before booking! -- Tom Squiggle . wrote: Likewise. Yay! (I think) On 4/16/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I registered and I think was accepted. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- John Griffiths » w: http://www.red91.com » e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » skype: SGMUSE
Re: [backstage] OS choice
on a macbook here, need to take it back though, has the grime on the pad issue On 10/04/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Cartwright wrote: I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost flawless (unlike all the Vista problems we keep hearing about), and a bit of revelation after being a complete Windowsite since 3.0. Sorry, but Me too. Almost exactly the same story. On a Mac Mini though, so it's a bit slow! -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- John Griffiths » w: http://www.red91.com » e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » skype: SGMUSE
RE: [backstage] Hack day in London
Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certified users (ie, license fee payers ;)) only which would permit some kind of higher bandwidth product. I've never really felt comfortable with distributed P2P for content that I've paid for. It's great when bittorrent is used for transfering ubuntu iso's around (as it's members of a community helping others in the same community), it's less great but at least makes some sense when it's used for piracy (as it's still a members of a community helping other members in a community, all be it an illicit one) but when it comes to content that I'm paying somebody to send to me, I don't see why I should waste my upload bandwith for someone else's business model. Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Fair enough, but i love the fact I can grab an ISO or ... er... certain content very rapidly using the P2P model. Since I pay a flat rate anyhow, and i've got loads of upload bandwidth to use, I'm not that fussed. :) - james - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Do you know when we will hear if we are in or not? (Or is the fact that I've not heard mean I'm not in?) Paul (Long Time Lurker) On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certified users (ie, license fee payers ;)) only which would permit some kind of higher bandwidth product. I've never really felt comfortable with distributed P2P for content that I've paid for. It's great when bittorrent is used for transfering ubuntu iso's around (as it's members of a community helping others in the same community), it's less great but at least makes some sense when it's used for piracy (as it's still a members of a community helping other members in a community, all be it an illicit one) but when it comes to content that I'm paying somebody to send to me, I don't see why I should waste my upload bandwith for someone else's business model. Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Fair enough, but i love the fact I can grab an ISO or ... er... certain content very rapidly using the P2P model. Since I pay a flat rate anyhow, and i've got loads of upload bandwidth to use, I'm not that fussed. :) - james - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
On 19/04/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Because Peer to Peer is the only current scalable way of distributing content. Server to client just isn't scalable enough. Server to client is also inefficient for peek loads. If you have something that is released and loads of people go to fetch it at the same time either your site will need enough servers to handle the peak load, which would mean under normal load they would not being used, or your site fails under heavy load. Peer to Peer reduces this problem. Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. nice to see that the BBC believes in neutrality and isn't favouring parties it has signed agreements with. /sarcasm Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Actionscript ? On 4/19/07, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on their definition of 'news'. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
I'd love to see some cool stuff hacked with as/apollo/flex/etc. a sneaking suspicion tells me that we have all the components to step away from the constrictions of the browser (specifically, dealing with IE) and instead run platforms which are just that little bit easier i was initially thinking a flickr app which used voice activated commands to browse tags etc... you'd have a big screen which you spoke to, and from v.a. an apollo app flickr api interaction shame i can't find good quality voice activation. :) - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:02, cisnky wrote: Actionscript ? On 4/19/07, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:07, Mutt Baskerville wrote: Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on their definition of 'news'. Would be interesting to see what would happen if Shuttleworth were to retain the services of waggener edstrom (microsoft's PR agency) - i'm sure they could get some big splashes. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Indeed, it's something I as a music tech student have both seen myself and have been told by tutors - and it makes sense. I remember putting up with dodgy projections in cinemas because the sound was alright, but the one time I was watching one of the Pirates films and the centre speaker started pumping out 20kHz digital distortion my head felt like it was going to explode. What DAB radio do you have? I'm lucky enough to have a (still-operational!) Wavefinder, which is literally 100% digital signal path until the output stage - directly sends the raw MPEG stream to the PC which decodes it and plays it back which is going through my monitors (speakers, not screens ;) and I can _definitely_ tell the difference between FM and digital, even if I do nothing more than hook up my MP3 player to my line level input on my audio interface. I've heard digital artefacts on Radio 3 on DAB. If we're ever going to turn off analogue, that problem HAS to be fixed. Also, the issues of compressing already-compressed material, the way commercial stations just send their FM-processed signal to the digital encoder without changing it... Plus the technical limitations of MPEG Layer-2 to boot. I think half the problem is that the vast majority of people don't have a decent setup for listening to their radio - and the stations they listen to don't really value preserving the quality of the source audio above making it the LOUDEST on the dial and getting listener figures. The BBC is uniquely positioned to spearhead the charge against the loss of quality in radio broadcasting, including the preservation of quality in their broadcasts. The Beeb shouldn't be pushed into putting more and more services on their already strained multiplexes by commercial expectations, because they'll never achieve the kind of quality they had on launch if they carry on doing that. These little portable DAB radios are both great and awful for the industry, and for quality standards in general. People don't expect the quality, the quality will disappear. -Original Message- From: Andrew Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2007 10:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial I have a DAB radio and I confess I can't tell the difference between (say) Radio 2 on FM and Radio 2 on DAB. I know some audiophiles who look at me in disbelief when I say that. And anyway it's actually a slight lie. When I try to compare them, the thing I notice most is the FM hiss. I'm far better on visual artifacts I must say. Interestingly though a colleague of mine from BBC News told me that surveys have shown people are far more likely to put up with a dodgy video picture if the sound is clean and crisp. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Mutt Baskerville wrote: Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on their definition of 'news'. Perhaps it'll become newsworthy now that Michael Dell is running Ubuntu Linux (and OpenOffice and Firefox) on his new laptop: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/04/18/12261.aspx#comments -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. The BBC News Technology section is rather more mainstream focused - it's not The Register. And I think that's reflected in the content it decides to cover. An Ubuntu release is not going to have the mainstream interest that a Windows release will have. The section does cover non-Microsoft OS's - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6552113.stm is about Leopard. And there is some Linux coverage such as the article covering Dell pre-installing Linux on PCs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Anything you want - anything at all :-) Once you know you've been accepted you can do as much prep as you like - it's all good. m On 19/4/07 15:48, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC4B5, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TS T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
It¹ll take a few weeks I would imagine before you¹ll hear much the list is getting blasted at the moment as you¹d expect! I¹ll post up more information as I know it. m On 19/4/07 15:53, Paul Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know when we will hear if we are in or not? (Or is the fact that I've not heard mean I'm not in?) Paul (Long Time Lurker) On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certified users (ie, license fee payers ;)) only which would permit some kind of higher bandwidth product. I've never really felt comfortable with distributed P2P for content that I've paid for. It's great when bittorrent is used for transfering ubuntu iso's around (as it's members of a community helping others in the same community), it's less great but at least makes some sense when it's used for piracy (as it's still a members of a community helping other members in a community, all be it an illicit one) but when it comes to content that I'm paying somebody to send to me, I don't see why I should waste my upload bandwith for someone else's business model. Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Fair enough, but i love the fact I can grab an ISO or ... er... certain content very rapidly using the P2P model. Since I pay a flat rate anyhow, and i've got loads of upload bandwidth to use, I'm not that fussed. :) - james - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC4B5, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TS T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
RE: [backstage] Hack day in London
I think there will be a small but deadly group of XSL developers working together on some killer web applications. Ian Forrester Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC4 B4, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7RJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 02080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cox Sent: 19 April 2007 16:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London I'd love to see some cool stuff hacked with as/apollo/flex/etc. a sneaking suspicion tells me that we have all the components to step away from the constrictions of the browser (specifically, dealing with IE) and instead run platforms which are just that little bit easier i was initially thinking a flickr app which used voice activated commands to browse tags etc... you'd have a big screen which you spoke to, and from v.a. an apollo app flickr api interaction shame i can't find good quality voice activation. :) - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:02, cisnky wrote: Actionscript ? On 4/19/07, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Wonder who¹ll be working on that then? ;-) On 19/4/07 16:44, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there will be a small but deadly group of XSL developers working together on some killer web applications. Ian Forrester Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC4 B4, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7RJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 02080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cox Sent: 19 April 2007 16:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London I'd love to see some cool stuff hacked with as/apollo/flex/etc. a sneaking suspicion tells me that we have all the components to step away from the constrictions of the browser (specifically, dealing with IE) and instead run platforms which are just that little bit easier i was initially thinking a flickr app which used voice activated commands to browse tags etc... you'd have a big screen which you spoke to, and from v.a. an apollo app flickr api interaction shame i can't find good quality voice activation. :) - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:02, cisnky wrote: Actionscript ? On 4/19/07, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a hack-team-mother-figure, let me know! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 19 April 2007 13:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Hack day in London On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or just learn RoR. ;-) Cheers, Tim -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC4B5, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TS T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day
Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G On 19/04/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07, Tom Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've sent an email to the Developer Day address asking if that thank you for your RSVP email means that I've been accepted. There's only a few cheap train tickets left, but I'd like to make sure I'm confirmed before booking! -- Tom Squiggle . wrote: Likewise. Yay! (I think) On 4/16/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I registered and I think was accepted. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- John Griffiths » w: http://www.red91.com » e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » skype: SGMUSE -- Gareth Rushgrove morethanseven.net webdesignbookshelf.com refreshnewcastle.org frontendarchitecture.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Developer Day
Maybe you could ask Kim to use her l33t s3w1ng sk1llz to mash the two t-shirts together, 2.0 stylee?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gareth rushgrove Sent: 19 April 2007 17:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day
clearly, both On 19 Apr 2007, at 17:16, gareth rushgrove wrote: Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G On 19/04/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07, Tom Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've sent an email to the Developer Day address asking if that thank you for your RSVP email means that I've been accepted. There's only a few cheap train tickets left, but I'd like to make sure I'm confirmed before booking! -- Tom Squiggle . wrote: Likewise. Yay! (I think) On 4/16/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I registered and I think was accepted. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- John Griffiths » w: http://www.red91.com » e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » skype: SGMUSE -- Gareth Rushgrove morethanseven.net webdesignbookshelf.com refreshnewcastle.org frontendarchitecture.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- James Cox, Internet Consultant t: 07968 349990 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.imajes.info/
Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day
I'll send you more stuff if you wear ours!? ;-) m On 19/4/07 17:16, gareth rushgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G On 19/04/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07, Tom Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've sent an email to the Developer Day address asking if that thank you for your RSVP email means that I've been accepted. There's only a few cheap train tickets left, but I'd like to make sure I'm confirmed before booking! -- Tom Squiggle . wrote: Likewise. Yay! (I think) On 4/16/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I registered and I think was accepted. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- John Griffiths » w: http://www.red91.com » e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » skype: SGMUSE ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC4B5, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TS T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Hack day in London
Tom Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 4/19/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there will be a small but deadly group of XSL developers working together on some killer web applications. Absolutely deadly. I'm bringing the revolver. Ian, you bring candlesticks, and I'll ask Sheila if she can rustle up some lead piping. We're gonna beat the shit out of that Dr. Black character in the Billiard Room, I tells you. Alternatively, I'll just bring along my copy of Dr. Kay's bible. Any help I can offer in this regard from the remote location of my kitchen is freely offered. You don't need the gospel according to kay. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
