Re: [backstage] BBC News Android application does not appear on Android 3.1 market

2011-06-07 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 6 Jun 2011, at 16:34, Brian Butterworth wrote: Yes, that doesn't actually answer the question of why? I don't know, but probably because it's a non-trivial job to port the UI to a tablet screen size, and the team has plenty of other things to be getting on with. Also, I find that the BBC

Re: [backstage] where is the BBC's SVG or scaleable vector graphics content?

2010-11-29 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Nov 2010, at 19:58, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: much of the BBC's online production has been released in flash (JAM) and other proprietary mediums. IE9 will implement SVG along with Mozilla, Safari-Webkit, Google-Chrome, Opera and other standards-compliant web browsers. Given the

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-09-30 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 30 Sep 2010, at 16:41, Iain Wallace wrote: Open Source gets a mention under meetings with Technology, Piracy and Enforcement ticked in the header of the minutes. If you can suggest a way of facilitating the former without facilitating the things that rights-holders want to prevent, that

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-09-29 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 29 Sep 2010, at 12:23, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:18, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Well BBC dev certs tend to give the holder huge amounts of access over our internal wikis, bug tracking systems and more! So don't take it personally! I think the

Re: [backstage] 'Project Canvas' to be called 'YouView':

2010-09-20 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 20 Sep 2010, at 14:37, Alex Cockell wrote: It's more the you will not attempt to reverse-engineer, decompile... Etc etc bit. Link? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.

Re: [backstage] 'Project Canvas' to be called 'YouView':

2010-09-20 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 20 Sep 2010, at 15:45, Alex Cockell wrote: http://www.youview.com/terms-and-conditions/ Clauses 3.2.2, clause 5 (esp where the code is open source), clause 10. Basically it would appear that the jv are trying to close what was previously open. IANAL and I don't work for Youview,

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-14 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 13 Sep 2010, at 19:38, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: Why would a manufacturer make a Canvas box instead of something that they can sell in most of the world (or even all of the world with the right components)? Why would a manufacturer make a Freesat box instead of something that they can

[backstage] Permanent H.264 royalty moratorium for free Internet video

2010-08-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2010/08/mpeg-la-counters-google-webm-with-permanent-royalty-moratorium.ars Seems like an interesting move. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.

Re: [backstage] Tried to submit a prototype but got an error 500

2010-07-20 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 19 Jul 2010, at 14:25, blueBill Mobile wrote: As I've later succesfully subscribed to this mailing list and posted a message - if there's still somebody listening here (as it seems since you answered), probably you could just remove the submission form and invite people to send an email

Re: [backstage] Tried to submit a prototype but got an error 500

2010-07-20 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 20 Jul 2010, at 14:13, blueBill Mobile wrote: Thanks :-) Out of curiosity, where's the buzz? In private emails or some public forum? Because I've always wondered whether blog posts (that don't receive direct comments) have an effect on some other part of the web ;-) Assuming you're

Re: [backstage] XML CMS?

2010-07-05 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 4 Jul 2010, at 12:35, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: Not sure whether I an is back at work, or well enough to respond, Ian is up and about, and came into the office briefly last week to say hello to everyone, but he's not back at work yet. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group.

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 15 Jun 2010, at 09:53, Mo McRoberts wrote: either way, they'd just get reverse-engineered again. they could push out new tables every week, but they went to lengths to explain how the one they have was specially-generated to be wonderfully optimised (in order to qualify as being some kind

Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-03 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 3 Jun 2010, at 15:23, David Woodhouse wrote: I reported this a few weeks ago, on a different story. It never got fixed, and the problem keeps happening. Generally when I've reported stuff it's been fixed. Occasionally, I've even received a nice thank-you email from the sub who's corrected

Re: [backstage] Any more DEB reading footage from today on iPlayer?

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 12 Apr 2010, at 09:12, Brian Butterworth wrote: I'm looking forward to Madonna or Disney explaining why they are cutting off school children from their primary learning source. A few months of no proper internet will clearly harm a child ... even if they were not the actual illegal

Re: [backstage] TODAY: Digital Economy Bill Flashmob, 5pm [Manchester]

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen Jolly
How did the flashmob go, out of interest? S On 6 Apr 2010, at 11:38, Christopher Woods wrote: For all interested parties: the ORG is also encouraging people to phone their MPs today, and there's ads appearing in the Grauniad and the Times (funded by donors to their last rush fundraising

Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage ] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source

2010-03-10 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 10 Mar 2010, at 16:36, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 16:36, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: (Off-list, just to keep Ian Forrester’s job safe) Wow. That was an _epic_ fail. :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 8 Mar 2010, at 09:04, Kieran Kunhya wrote: From: Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv Subject: Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get? To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Date: Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 19:15 It occurred to me the other day

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 8 Mar 2010, at 11:31, Kieran Kunhya wrote: Clearly you need a motion-compensated deinterlacer. ;-) It's still not going to be as good in 25p as it will in 50i in my opinion unless the scroll speed is reduced. Though judging by recent attempts to destroy end credits on virtually

Re: [backstage] Move to Mailman

2010-03-04 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 4 Mar 2010, at 15:04, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: Why would you want to do that - just clutters up an inbox... if $h_Sender: matches owner-([a-zA-Z-.]*)@ and not delivered then save $home/mail/lists/$1 endif Exim filter files are great. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group.

Re: [backstage] Move to Mailman

2010-03-03 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 3 Mar 2010, at 17:04, Ian Forrester wrote: Alright alright! I hear you all... So what's the first steps to make this happen? You could walk down to my end of the office and ask me about it? :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

[backstage] Moving out of Kingswood

2010-02-12 Thread Stephen Jolly
I thought a few people on this list might be interested in this article (and video) about BBC RD moving out of their Surrey home. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8506128.stm I worked at that site for five years, and it was a pretty special place. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-02-09 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 9 Feb 2010, at 11:42, Kieran Kunhya wrote: There are plenty of free pixel-adaptive deinterlacers out there though such as Yadif or a decomb filter could be used. There are even some painfully slow motion compensated ones that would be probably be in the same league as expensive snell and

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer for Apple TV

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 2 Feb 2010, at 22:14, Jonathan Tweed wrote: Thanks, it's been a fun project. Do feel free to fork and improve :) Nifty! At last, a use for the Apple TV? ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Canvas consultation responses due by 5pm tomorrow

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 1 Feb 2010, at 08:42, Mo McRoberts wrote: ...of course, if you're like me and thought yesterday was the 1st Feb, you've probably already submitted it. D'oh. Better a day early than a day late. :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:30, Ant Miller wrote: Possibly- the specific file formats we need to encode to to upload to iplayer are pretty standard, but the way we make these films is using a 3rd party editor (he's great by the way). Delivering finished films from his home edit suite to us is

Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:43, Ian Forrester wrote: Hardly ever crashes. For example I left it running on a spare laptop from Wednesday Today encoding RDTV into a number of different formats and there was no problems. Even when editing it was all good, except I couldn't always get sound out due

Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:14, Christopher Woods wrote: But seriously, how old is the Mac? I noticed some older Macs at my old Uni had problems with a couple of my USB sticks, although they were USB2.0 and everything-else-compatible. Just seemingly refused to work. On the basis of no information

Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video

2010-02-01 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 1 Feb 2010, at 16:01, Brian Butterworth wrote: NTFS has been around since ... 1993, it would have to be a very, very old Mac, surely not to have NTFS support? You can mount NTFS formatted hard drives onto Macs. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=663637 S - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* encoded in real-time? all of it? I believe so. after all, live programming is in the minority on BBC1-4, and assuming things sit on sensible boundaries and are pre-packetised,

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Jan 2010, at 11:59, Christopher Woods wrote: On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* encoded in real-time? all of it? I believe so. Not unless they've changed their previous policy of ingesting popular /

Re: [backstage] Mail archives

2010-01-26 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 25 Jan 2010, at 14:27, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:43, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? There was a consensus for Mailman, although I don't think anybody

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-26 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 25 Jan 2010, at 18:59, Barry Carlyon wrote: (have they finished the HTML 5 Spec yet?) The definitive answer to this common question is here: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#sched The short answer is no. But that doesn't stop people from implementing bits of it in browsers of course, despite

Re: [backstage] MusicDNA and ItunesLP

2010-01-26 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 26 Jan 2010, at 13:15, Mo McRoberts wrote: Last I looked, AAC was the successor to MP3 :) Yeah, or MP3Pro. There are no shortage of wannabe successors... S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] MusicDNA and ItunesLP

2010-01-26 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 26 Jan 2010, at 16:22, Brian Butterworth wrote: Surely there is a point, because Moore's Law is exponential where it just becomes too much hassle to do the encoding and decoding because storing and carrying the data raw will have reached free. Yeah, but OTOH the processing power to do the

Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support

2010-01-21 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 21 Jan 2010, at 12:37, Tim Dobson wrote: http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ (Flash runtime in javascript) seems almost a bit of a let down now having seen that! I love the concept - but wake me up when it's a full implementation of Flash 10. ;-) S - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 15 Dec 2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote: Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your house wiring from one of these systems - it's not very secure! I think the Homeplug AV standard uses 128-bit AES traffic encryption, which should be enough to foil the

Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

2009-12-02 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 2 Dec 2009, at 13:15, Ian Forrester wrote: So during the rest of the discussion and reading this - http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx, I'm wondered if Google had putout wave too early for consumers? I can't say I agree with Andy Chesters -

Re: [backstage] Google Wave

2009-12-01 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote: It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 14 Oct 2009, at 11:47, Mo McRoberts wrote: Thus creating an (effective) two-tier system: those who work go the whole hog within Canvas, or those who adhere to all of the _technical_ specifications but need to come to separate arrangements in order to deliver them, and can’t (of course),

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 14 Oct 2009, at 12:23, Mo McRoberts wrote: I think the document I linked to implies a more flexible picture than that. It doesn’t. There's stuff in section 2.7 that talks about the flexibility manufacturers would have to change the appearance of the core UI (up to a point), which to

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-12 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 12 Oct 2009, at 22:47, Mo McRoberts wrote: That was all written before the exec clarified the proposition and the consultation was extended. I was all for Canvas until it became clear what it *actually* was. Do share. :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] BBC NEWS | Technology | Flash moves on to smart phones

2009-10-06 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 6 Oct 2009, at 11:34, Brian Butterworth wrote: There was always the luck for Macromedia (now Adobe) that when they launched Flash there was no competitor. Even Microsoft used Flash 2 on the old Microsoft Network. When I first heard that Macromedia were going to add a video player to

Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?

2009-09-16 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 16 Sep 2009, at 18:53, Tim Dobson wrote: What do people think? Reminds me of when some of the Windows 2000 code was leaked - if anything the leak was worse than useless, since the open-source projects that could have benefited from it obviously couldn't look at it without becoming

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out?

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 4 Aug 2009, at 23:07, Dave Crossland wrote: Why should economics trump freedom? Would you scrap free elections if it was better for the economy? China is proving that free elections are not needed for a efficient capitalist market system. Well, freedom's great, but you can't eat it.

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out?

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 4 Aug 2009, at 12:23, Deirdre Harvey wrote: My 90+ year old Grandmother (also non-geeky) also doesn't seem to have issues with Debian + Kmail. Did they set those machines up all by themselves or did you help them a little bit? Do they call you if they need a bit of help? Having a

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out?

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 4 Aug 2009, at 12:23, Deirdre Harvey wrote: My 90+ year old Grandmother (also non-geeky) also doesn't seem to have issues with Debian + Kmail. Did they set those machines up all by themselves or did you help them a little bit? Do they call you if they need a bit of help? Having a