On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Richard P Edwards wrote:
I would love to know who it was that decided to make the two systems
incompatible..
I found the Wikipedia pages on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD quite informative when I
was trying to find out the answer to the same question a couple of weeks
back:
On 25/02/2008, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 08:03 +, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Is the BBC Shop going to swap defunt HD-DVD for BR versions?
Why don't you just write it to a BR disc for yourself? You bought it,
after all -- surely you have a right to
Richard P Edwards wrote:
I would love to know who it was that decided to make the two systems
incompatible.. once again, if that hadn't have happened HD-DVD could
have still lost, but without the public's purchases becoming pretty much
obsolete, and the hardware would still have a market.
Yep, I have to agree.
LOL
Rich
On 25 Feb 2008, at 17:13, Steve Jolly wrote:
Richard P Edwards wrote:
I would love to know who it was that decided to make the two
systems incompatible.. once again, if that hadn't have
happened HD-DVD could have still lost, but without the public's
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 14:13 +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
Concerning physical records, I feel the same way. I buy few items
online, not only because of the silly DRM, but because managing
storage and backups is a headache.
I still prefer to buy real CDs, partly because they _become_ the backup
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Also, a lot of the time we buy CDs for each other, and a
tangible object is definitely better there. I wonder what
proportion of CDs are bought as presents?
buzzwords
The industry itself readily acknowledges that the vast majority of CD
purchases are from the demographic who buy one, maybe
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 18:00 +, Christopher Woods wrote:
I buy probably one or two CDs a year, if that, but I buy a barrowload of
vinyl every year. I'm a bit odd though. ;)
Maybe - I get more vinyl every month, but I haven't
bought a CD for ages. SACDs are tempting, sounding
far better than
Maybe - I get more vinyl every month, but I haven't bought a
CD for ages. SACDs are tempting, sounding far better than
CDs, but there are few new releases, so rather than buying a
player this year, I think I'll invest in a better gramophone
for my 78s :-)
The ELP Laser Turntable is your
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 23:39 +, Christopher Woods wrote:
Maybe - I get more vinyl every month, but I haven't bought a
CD for ages. SACDs are tempting, sounding far better than
CDs, but there are few new releases, so rather than buying a
player this year, I think I'll invest in a
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 08:03 +, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Is the BBC Shop going to swap defunt HD-DVD for BR versions?
Why don't you just write it to a BR disc for yourself? You bought it,
after all -- surely you have a right to _use_ it?
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On Thursday 21 February 2008 13:41:21 Andy wrote:
A more important question is will the BBC be providing it's programs
on Blue
On Friday 22 February 2008 08:03:43 Brian Butterworth wrote:
Is the BBC Shop going to swap defunt HD-DVD for BR versions?
Why would they (or any shop) do that? It'd perhaps be a nice gesture,
but hardly a way to run a business - I'd be really surprised if (for example)
WH Smith offered to do
to shift a bunch of PS3s perhaps (hey, buy a PS3 and we'll trade in
3 of your HD-DVDs for BR versions free!).
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I don't know if it would make good business sense, but wouldn't it be
good if Sony came in right now and said 'hey all you HD-DVD deck
buyers - come swap it for a blu-ray deck for free/subsidised price'.
Could even swap it for a PS3, increasing game sales while they were at
it. Don't think the
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I don't know if it would make good business sense, but wouldn't it be
good if Sony came in right now and said 'hey all you HD-DVD deck
buyers - come swap it for a blu-ray deck for free/subsidised price'.
Could even swap
bought HD-DVD anyway... presumably not /that/ many or the format wouldn't
have gone belly up.
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I don't know if it would make good business sense, but wouldn't it be
good if Sony came in right now and said 'hey all you HD-DVD deck
buyers
Or reuse -- think of DAT, which the music industry succeeded in
killing as a consumer format in the late 80s and was relegated to
recording studios, but which got a new lease on life as a SCSI data
backup format.
The original CD-Audio Red Book gave rise to the CD-ROM XA Yellow Book
after all
On Friday 22 February 2008 08:03:43 Brian Butterworth wrote:
Is the BBC Shop going to swap defunt HD-DVD for BR versions?
I don't think HD-DVD machines have suddenly stopped working.
As others have said - why should they because they supplied content to
you in the format of your choice
at least see the Murdoch
festering box squatting in the corner
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On 21/02/2008, Darren Stephens
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On 20/02/2008, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know guys, it may have been said multiple times but the only
winner in this battle must be the online services.
However I'm still left wondering when the general public will get
.
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On 20/02/2008, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know guys, it may
items that way.
How unusual I am I can't say.
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On 20/02/2008, *Ian Forrester
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I buy
virtually all my music as CDs, but then rip them to play them how I want to
play them.
There is a widely held belief that ripping CDs may actually be illegal
in the UK.
The Gower's report recommended allowing private copying by
Ian Forrester wrote:
I don't know guys, it may have been said multiple times but the only winner
in this battle must be the online services.
However I'm still left wondering when the general public will get their head
around non-physical media. People seem to like the look and feel of
certainly more cautious about buying items that way.
How unusual I am I can't say.
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They've been equal in both formats so far - the 8th 'blu-ray' on that search is
the HD Planet Earth.
Many more to follow I'm sure - Life in the Undergrowth is bound to be
impressive in either.
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On Thursday 21 February 2008 13:41:21 Andy wrote:
A more important question is will the BBC be providing it's programs
on Blue-Ray or HD-DVD?
BBC Shop has 8 titles as blu ray 7 as HD DVD.
cf : http://www.bbcshop.com/ (search for Blu ray and HD respectively
(note
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes control
over your TV/DVD and insists that you watch the copyright notices
Sounds like you need to get yourself a better DVD player.
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On 20/02/2008, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes
control
over your TV/DVD and insists that you watch the copyright notices
Sounds like you need to get
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On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes
control over
music/films, I will.
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I don't know guys, it may have been said multiple times but the only winner
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On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit
At 13:18 + 19/2/08, Matt Barber wrote:
Toshiba drops out of HD DVD war -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7252172.stm
What does everyone think? I thought they would keep this going for longer.
Everything should be open.
Just my two cents...
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On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes
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On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes
control over your TV/DVD and insists that you watch the copyright
notices
On Feb 19, 2008 1:18 PM, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does everyone think? I thought they would keep this going for longer.
You know, I always read Blu Ray as Blur-ry... ;-) !!
Not having big screen, DVD is more than good enough for me.
How long will regular DVD last?
Davy
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On 19/02/2008, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Toshiba drops out of HD DVD war -
http
On 19/02/2008, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Toshiba drops out of HD DVD war -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7252172.stm
What does everyone think? I thought they would keep this going for longer.
Bald men fighting over a comb. Now one one them can scrape their scalp to
their
On Feb 19, 2008 1:42 PM, Davy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 19, 2008 1:18 PM, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does everyone think? I thought they would keep this going for longer.
You know, I always read Blu Ray as Blur-ry... ;-) !!
Not having big screen, DVD is more
this imposition hasn't been challenged in the courts. It is a small but very
annoying thing.
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What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes control
over your TV/DVD and insists that you watch the copyright notices and it
tries to thrust the 'don't copy videos' advert on to you. Why should any
company have the right to stop you using your own DVD controls and force
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On 19/02/2008, *Matt Barber* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Toshiba drops out of HD DVD war -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7252172.stm
What does everyone think? I thought they would
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Sent: 19 February 2008 14:17
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Yup. Presumably, in this ridiculous Must buy into the latest hype even if
the technology really isn't up to the job and it's totally impractical
world we live in people will happily wait
on a phone or enjoying artefacting and poor
quality that is the Sky HD service).
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On 19/02
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On Feb 19, 2008 3:51 PM, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The deck makers don't mind giving you control, but the disc sellers
do. That spam bit of FBI warning (means a lot in France) is Hollywood,
terrified
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