Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

On Sunday 23 November 2008 22:07:20 Michael wrote: > You obviously can't read. This should read as "can't read what I meant". Sorry for how that comes across otherwise. I'll step away from email for a while methinks until I start typing sentences with all the words in :) Michael -- http://ye

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

On Sunday 23 November 2008 21:07:04 Aleem B wrote: > > one of the more amusing aspects about > > that is that some people prefer DVD because "it doesn't have any DRM". ... > DVDs are not DRM free. Sigh. You obviously can't read. I said I found it amusing that people prefer DVD because they says

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Michael, The reason for this is probably due to the rather extreme lengths that > Microsoft appear to have gone to with regard to their DRM system. This > is a either a good thing or a bad thing from any given individual's > perspective. >From the end consumer it's never good. From a company's p

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

On 23 Nov 2008, at 17:55, Brian Butterworth wrote: To be honest, I have gone over it so many times I got the distinct impression - indeed a direct suggestion from a BBC person I very much respect - to stop going on about it, so I refer you to the podcast discussion because it is the most e

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another alternative universe moment... > http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_says_it_has_always_preferred_DRMfree_content/1227222823 > > "At a Media Center-centric event here Wednesday, Microsoft's new Media > Ce

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2008/11/23 Fearghas McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 23 Nov 2008, at 12:31, Brian Butterworth wrote: > > Of course not. He can't be arsed to listen to the podcast. >> >> > No you can't be arsed to present your position in the same medium that we > are having this discussion. Good point, but I

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Aleem B wrote: > (why is it so surpising that microsoft would prefer > DRM-free content). Their prior actions, corporate culture, general technological strategies, partnerships and regulatory environment. And you have stripped the emphasis of the original. There is no evidence that MS *have alwa

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Aleem - The answer is yes, the question is so confounding that a quick response won't suffice. Take a look at the backstage list archive, you will drink deeply from that fountain. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Aleem B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Aleem, are you aware of the difficulties t

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

On 23 Nov 2008, at 12:31, Brian Butterworth wrote: Of course not. He can't be arsed to listen to the podcast. No you can't be arsed to present your position in the same medium that we are having this discussion. So please explain your point using text rather than just pointing to some

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

> Aleem, are you aware of the difficulties the BBC has encountered in >> the iPlayer project after choosing Microsoft DRM to satisfy content >> rights owners? > > > Of course not. He can't be arsed to listen to the podcast. > Is the question so confounding that you cannot offer a quick response a

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

2008/11/23 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Aleem, are you aware of the difficulties the BBC has encountered in > the iPlayer project after choosing Microsoft DRM to satisfy content > rights owners? Of course not. He can't be arsed to listen to the podcast. > > > > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

> MS has a lot of employees - many have never liked DRM, many would bet their > future on it. En-masse I thinkg MS tends towards the latter rather than the > former. I don't think DRM will go away either but that doesn't mean I like it. If I were a company seeking out to build a music player I wo

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Does it in any way run counter to Microsoft's statement that they prefer DRM-free content? Microsoft has a tainted history of bugs around DRM (possibly even reason enough them the skip it altogether). The point, however, is that Microsoft has little to gain from DRM but that's the will of the media

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Aleem B wrote: > BBC is a public service so the issues don't really translate to > Microsoft/DRM which is inclined to support DRM so it can sign deals with > labels and sell their music players. Unless the BBC uses MS solutions with their DRM systems that aren't turned off. Which IIRC it did. MS

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Aleem, are you aware of the difficulties the BBC has encountered in the iPlayer project after choosing Microsoft DRM to satisfy content rights owners? On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Aleem B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BBC is a public service so the issues don't really translate to > Microsof

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

BBC is a public service so the issues don't really translate to Microsoft/DRM which is inclined to support DRM so it can sign deals with labels and sell their music players. Your original mail (and subsequent follow up) is classic flamebait--something you sh

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Brian On 23 Nov 2008, at 09:57, Brian Butterworth wrote: cf http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html Perhaps you could summarise your point rather than just point at a podcast discussion? Thanks f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

2008/11/23 Aleem B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And why shouldn't they? They don't make money off DRM'd content but > legally they are obliged, not to mention the strong lobby of the > RIAA/MPAA has ensured that all major music players in the market > faciliate copyright through DRM. If the iPod weren't

Re: [backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

And why shouldn't they? They don't make money off DRM'd content but legally they are obliged, not to mention the strong lobby of the RIAA/MPAA has ensured that all major music players in the market faciliate copyright through DRM. If the iPod weren't DRM'd, iTunes wouldn't have any sort of deal wit

[backstage] Microsoft says it 'has always preferred' DRM-free content

Another alternative universe moment... http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_says_it_has_always_preferred_DRMfree_content/1227222823 "At a Media Center-centric event here Wednesday, Microsoft's new Media Center marketing manager Mike Seamons, charged with demonstrating the charms of the Windo