RE: [backstage] Internet Standards role

2010-09-13 Thread Andrew Bowden
It always gets me that someone actually had to go to the effort of putting in a freedom of information request in order to find out what the BBC's salary grades meant... From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On

[backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread David Tomlinson
http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-canvas-complaint-5-comes-from-open-source-software-fans/ The OSC is a small body, with 23 members from small development and consultancy firms, and it’s objection is largely philosophical - that Canvas isn’t “open” in the same way Unix and Linux lovers

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Alex Cockell
Anyone else notice the similarity between the OSC's position and that held by Clive Sinclair and Chris Curry back when rhe Beeb were backing the NewBrain? - Original message - http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-canvas-complaint-5-comes-from-open-source-software-fans/ The OSC is

[backstage] iPlayer intuitive shortcuts (was: regional news - footage available online?)

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Woods
Whilst (hopefully) people have their eye on iPlayer stuff, is there any chance we can get the sensible redirects added back to the iPlayer? i.e. bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio1 bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bbcone bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bbc3 Etc... Each channel still has its own page with its own URL, It's always how

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Alex Cockell
I'd also say they've done the same with the iPlayer client. If they opened it up, it could be running on pretty mujch anything within months. - Original message - http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-canvas-complaint-5-comes-from-open-source-software-fans/ The OSC is a small body,

RE: [backstage] Google Instant method?

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Woods
On 11/09/2010 09:26, Brian Butterworth wrote: They covered it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0eMHRxlJ2c Brian Butterworth Bit of a con in parts. I thought the search for a woman in the museum was fake. Amusingly enough I was trying out Google Scribe only a month or so

Re: [backstage] Google Instant method?

2010-09-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 13 September 2010 13:03, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.ukwrote: On 11/09/2010 09:26, Brian Butterworth wrote: They covered it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0eMHRxlJ2c Brian Butterworth Bit of a con in parts. I thought the search for a woman in the

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Nick Morrott
On 13 September 2010 12:19, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/downloads/project_canvas/project_canvas_consultation_response.pdf Accordingly, Project Canvas should all the application programme interfaces (“API”s) and use and publish

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:21, Nick Morrott knowledgejun...@gmail.com wrote: Accordingly, Project Canvas should publish all the application programming interfaces (“API”s) and use unencumbered open standards so as to enable anyone to provide “Project Canvas-ready” client solutions on any

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:33, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:21, Nick Morrott knowledgejun...@gmail.com wrote: Accordingly, Project Canvas should publish all the application programming interfaces (“API”s) and use unencumbered open standards so as to enable

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Tim Dobson
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:33:38 +0100, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:21, Nick Morrott knowledgejun...@gmail.com wrote: Accordingly, Project Canvas should publish all the application programming interfaces (“API”s) and use unencumbered open standards so as to

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Nick Morrott
On 13 September 2010 13:36, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:33, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:21, Nick Morrott knowledgejun...@gmail.com wrote: Accordingly, Project Canvas should publish all the application programming

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Mo McRoberts wrote: If you're going to bitch and moan, at least bloody do it coherently. Clarification: when I say you I say so in the general sense, not you specifically. ObEnglish: It's for cases like this that the olde english ye should be re-surrected, and why its

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread David Tomlinson
On 13/09/2010 13:39, Tim Dobson wrote: Gah, this makes no sense in the context of what Canvas actually is. If you're going to bitch and moan, at least bloody do it coherently. +1 A sense of outrage always makes me incoherent too. So what is Canvas ? A black box under the control of a

RE: [backstage] Google Instant method?

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Woods
On 11/09/2010 09:26, Brian Butterworth wrote: They covered it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0eMHRxlJ2c Brian Butterworth Bit of a con in parts. I thought the search for a woman in the museum was fake. Amusingly enough I was trying out Google Scribe only a month or

Re: [backstage] regional news - footage available online?

2010-09-13 Thread Gavin Johnson
Thanks for noticing, have passed your comments on. It seems that they’re not all live yet, but more are on the way. There is a different schedule for regional news, i.e. they only seem to get 24 hours to live and aren’t published daily. Anyone know any more than that? Gavin On 11/09/2010 18:38,

Re: [backstage] Google Instant method?

2010-09-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/09/2010 13:20, Brian Butterworth wrote: Well and the results. Google Instant isn't the easy autocomplete bit, it is the provision of instant results. Yeah, my phone does predictive txt, init? Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To

Re: [backstage] regional news - footage available online?

2010-09-13 Thread Phil Lewis
Yes, just noticed that 'Points West' hasn't made it into iPlayer yet. I believe that even the national news @1/6/10 lives only 24hrs. The ones I did look at: Look North, South Today, BBC London News and North West Tonight seem all to be coming out daily on weekdays since 6th/7th Sept (except BBC

Re: [backstage] Google Instant method?

2010-09-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 13 September 2010 14:43, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.ukwrote: On 11/09/2010 09:26, Brian Butterworth wrote: They covered it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0eMHRxlJ2c Brian Butterworth Bit of a con in parts. I thought the search for a woman in

[backstage] iPlayer: (Not Available)

2010-09-13 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
iPlayer: (Not Available) can anyone (from the BBC?) explain why** the all new beta iPlayer TV channels are stuffed with programs that are (Not Available)? best Jonathan Chetwynd **given there is already a TV site, I'm totally stumped, makes the product rather distinctly less useful.

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:19, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: To quote the OSC. http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/downloads/project_canvas/project_canvas_consultation_response.pdf Project Canvas in its current form is going to lead to the BBC having unprecedented

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:38, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney- To be honest, I'm unconvinced by Project Canvas. It's difficult to see how a UK only system is going to compete in this day and age. What does it do that a Google TV box can't do? Why would a manufacturer make a

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread David Tomlinson
To be honest, I'm unconvinced by Project Canvas. It's difficult to see how a UK only system is going to compete in this day and age. What does it do that a Google TV box can't do? Why would a manufacturer make a Canvas box instead of something that they can sell in most of the world (or even

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:22, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The Google TV box (Logitech Revue) is an addition to your set top box, so it does not integrate with Free To Air TV and may be unable to access UK catch-up content. But it's also getting installed directly into