[BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
Can BackupPC's data pool (/var/lib/BackupPC) be a CIFS mount, or must it be a block device? I'm thinking it requires a block device due to the hardlinks/inodes BackupPC depends on, and I'm not sure that a cifs-mounted folder gives you that ability.

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Bryan Keadle (.net) bkea...@keadle.net wrote: Can BackupPC's data pool (/var/lib/BackupPC) be a CIFS mount, or must it be a block device? I'm thinking it requires a block device due to the hardlinks/inodes BackupPC depends on, and I'm not sure that a

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, we're using a NAS device, but not necessary those small ones - using this Drobo B800fshttp://www.drobo.com/products/business/b800fs/index.php. So NFS would be a protocol-based option for the data pool? Still, iSCSI would be best if not DAS? On Fri, Jul 13, 2012

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
I think I had a buddy try AoE and found it problematic - not yet ready for prime time? On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Mike ispbuil...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-07-13 01:38 PM, Bryan Keadle (.net) wrote: Thanks for your reply. Yeah, we're using a NAS device, but not necessary those small

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Bryan Keadle (.net) bkea...@keadle.net wrote: Thanks for your reply. Yeah, we're using a NAS device, but not necessary those small ones - using this Drobo B800fs. So NFS would be a protocol-based option for the data pool? Still, iSCSI would be best if not

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Mike
On 12-07-13 01:38 PM, Bryan Keadle (.net) wrote: Thanks for your reply. Yeah, we're using a NAS device, but not necessary those small ones - using this Drobo B800fs http://www.drobo.com/products/business/b800fs/index.php. So NFS would be a protocol-based option for the data pool? Still,

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Mike
On 12-07-13 01:50 PM, Bryan Keadle (.net) wrote: I think I had a buddy try AoE and found it problematic - not yet ready for prime time? I've used it for a variety of things from software RAID to network booting - no problems here? -- Looking for (employment|contract) work in the Internet

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Timothy J Massey
The latency that remote storage adds, particularly at a higher level like NFS or SMB, can really hurt BackupPC's performance. Besides, it is going to hammer the daylights out of that remote storage, leaving very little performance for anybody else. And while a Drobo is one of the very nicest

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Timothy J Massey
What problem are you guys trying to solve by separating the backup PC processing from the storage? Given back up PCs extremely high storage requirements, and the demands it places upon that storage, I can't imagine that you're going to try to share that storage with anybody else. Besides, if

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Mike
Yes, NFS or iSCSI will work, but it is really a lot cheaper to just throw some big drives in a linux box. +1 to that. And in all the questions you've asked I don't remember any yet about getting offsite copies of the archive, which is usually the one hard thing with backuppc that you

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Jim McNamara
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Mike ispbuil...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-07-13 01:50 PM, Bryan Keadle (.net) wrote: I think I had a buddy try AoE and found it problematic - not yet ready for prime time? I've used it for a variety of things from software RAID to network booting - no

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 07/13 12:59 , Timothy J Massey wrote: And while a Drobo is one of the very nicest ones, it is still very much a small NAS box. BackupPC really wants to be set up on a standalone PC with directly attached disks. I've used BackupPC on a Drobo device. Performance sucked compared to local

Re: [BackupPC-users] Process for Overriding hosts configuration

2012-07-13 Thread backuppc
Michael Stowe wrote at about 10:13:35 -0500 on Wednesday, July 11, 2012: Naturally, I do lose ACLs and whatnot, but aside from a few tweaks, the process at least works. I've been considering adding a supplemental ACL backup to the routine. In my vshadow script -- shadowmountrsync -- for

Re: [BackupPC-users] Process for Overriding hosts configuration

2012-07-13 Thread backuppc
Kris Lou wrote at about 09:40:12 -0700 on Wednesday, July 11, 2012: Naturally, I do lose ACLs and whatnot, but aside from a few tweaks, the process at least works. I've been considering adding a supplemental ACL backup to the routine. That sounds like a useful idea, but

Re: [BackupPC-users] Process for Overriding hosts configuration

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
Care to share your shadowmountrsync? On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:48 PM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: Michael Stowe wrote at about 10:13:35 -0500 on Wednesday, July 11, 2012: Naturally, I do lose ACLs and whatnot, but aside from a few tweaks, the process at least works. I've been

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump syntax

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
That's beyond me (code it and submit a patch). Is there not a repository or a way to submit these to those whom where code it and submit a patch doesn't frighten? :-) On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:53 PM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: Bryan Keadle (.net) wrote at about 10:50:46 -0500 on Monday,

Re: [BackupPC-users] Process for Overriding hosts configuration

2012-07-13 Thread backuppc
It's on the Wiki - a good place to look and answer many basic questions by the way Bryan Keadle (.net) wrote at about 14:25:14 -0500 on Friday, July 13, 2012: Care to share your shadowmountrsync? On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:48 PM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: Michael Stowe wrote at

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump syntax

2012-07-13 Thread backuppc
I don't think you will find many people here willing to code and submit a patch to satisfy your personal feature requests unless they happen to need it for themselves. The leader/maintainer of BackupPC is reportedly focusing all his efforts on a complete rewrite. The rest of us are here as users

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
Wow - great posts here - thank you; good information. I just recently been introduced to BackupPC and I've been pursuing this as a VM appliance to backup non-critical targets. Thus, as a VM, I would use remote storage (iSCSI) to provide capacity instead of local virtual disk. High-value data is

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump syntax

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Keadle (.net)
I hear you - I'm not expecting people to serve my personal interests. But this has been such an active and helpful group, I just thought the suggestion had merit beyond my personal interest and that someone more familiar with coding would take interest. I can't wait to be able to contribute back

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump syntax

2012-07-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Bryan Keadle (.net) bkea...@keadle.net wrote: How might one suggest such an enhancement request - a trial run feature that would show *WHAT* would get backed up, but not actually backup? I'm not really sure the concept makes sense across the different

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC data pool

2012-07-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Bryan Keadle (.net) bkea...@keadle.net wrote: I just recently been introduced to BackupPC and I've been pursuing this as a VM appliance to backup non-critical targets. Thus, as a VM, I would use remote storage (iSCSI) to provide capacity instead of local

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_Link takes ages

2012-07-13 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hey again, Am 05.07.2012 16:10, schrieb Adam Goryachev: first, I forgot to mention an important detail: we changed from ext3 to xfs on the 5TB RAID10 array which holds all BackupPC data during the re-setup. Am 05.07.2012 15:04, schrieb Adam Goryachev: no, this doesn't seem to be the