On 2007.11.29. 23:53, John Stoffel wrote:
mark == mark bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mark = I've got a plan to sit down and sketch out more consistent and clear
mark = set of commands for manipulating bacula from the command line.
Anyone
mark = else like the 'bcli' name?
mark =
In the message dated: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:13:18 EST,
The pithy ruminations from John Stoffel on
Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula were:
=
[SNIP!]
= Shon here, I wouldn't have come as far as I have. For instance, the
= Shon full abilities of the commands aren't well
mark == mark bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mark = I've got a plan to sit down and sketch out more consistent and clear
mark = set of commands for manipulating bacula from the command line. Anyone
mark = else like the 'bcli' name?
mark =
mark No! No! This will only exacerbate the
Shon Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
Shon really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd
Shon out something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test
Shon certain things went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up
Shon for production that
--- Robert LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/21/07 7:11 AM, Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
Debian
stable package will be updated soon).
Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as
Foo Bar schrieb:
all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
Debian
stable package will be updated soon).
Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as
stable. I've used the testing and sid packages in Lenny without any
problems.
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
Things that should be easy that Bacula makes overly complex:
Labeling tapes
Assigning tapes to pools
On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
You are unique.
Things that should be easy that
Hi,
21.11.2007 14:07,, Shon Stephens wrote::
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
I don't think your mail will be removed as that's rather difficult
with a mailing list :-)
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months
Shon Stephens a écrit :
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
Things that should be easy that Bacula makes overly complex:
Labeling
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
If you would have asked questions about the problems you were
experiencing we would have helped.
--- Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
Basically I can't see that its useable for anything more than backing
up a single system, and even then better be careful.
I backup 50+ computers over gigabit network with the director,
database and storage on different machines. Actually I have several
bacula-sd machines because I have
I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which is
especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get it
all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian
stable package will be updated soon).
BAT is a very recent addition to
--- John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which
is
especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get
it
all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
Debian
stable package will
Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd out
something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test certain things
went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up for production that
has presented its biggest
Shon,
If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
There are ways and means to do things in Bacula and let me tell you this
if you couldn't do it or find a way you are really incompetent and again
should be allowed to operate a PC.
Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd out
something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test certain things
went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up for production that
has presented its biggest
Hi,
21.11.2007 15:43,, Janco van der Merwe wrote::
Shon,
If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
Janco, calm down please!
Even if you or others don't agree with Shon don't resort to name-calling!
Bacula as a whole - and
Janco van der Merwe wrote:
Shon,
If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, including me. However, continued
belittling of Bacula, Bacula developers, Bacula users, the Bacula
disenchanted,
Guys,
Sorry, but - there must be a but - I deal with this sort of people
everyday and it has come to a point where being nice and keeping quite
is not a solutions anymore.
Ok, I do understand that Bacula can be difficult some times but that is
why this list is theream I wrong?
I also have
DL == Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
DL You are unique.
I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself wow, bacula is
really cool; but why isn't it doing that?
The configuration is
Everything is a learning experience, even a mistake.
- Original Message
From: Wes Hardaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: bacula-users bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:02:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems
On 11/21/07 7:11 AM, Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian
stable package will be updated soon).
Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as
stable. I've used the testing and sid packages in
On 11/21/07 9:02 AM, Wes Hardaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Final word: I love bacula and wouldn't switch away from it if I had a
choice. But I'm still on the learning curve, and it isn't small. But
very very worth it. Thanks again!
I've seen Bacula as an enterprise level product.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and
its still not working correctly.
DL You are unique.
I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself wow, bacula is
really cool; but why isn't it doing that?
The configuration is complex to set up (but with flexibility
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Shon Stephens wrote:
For instance, the full abilities of the commands aren't well
documented.
They're there, just that you do have to read the entire manual BEFORE
starting to set it up.
groking why it does things is 3/4 of the effort. once you umderstand the
philosophy
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Wes Hardaker wrote:
I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself wow, bacula is
really cool; but why isn't it doing that?
So do I - and then usally find out I've set it up wrong, or that users are
doing stupid things (like chown -R /path/to/directory/) which result
It required searching the bacula-users posts to discover
that I could do label slots=1-12 pool=scratch barcodes.
There's no need to label blank tapes. Just add the entries to the
appropriate pools, apply matching barcodes and update slots. When bacula
encounters a blank tape which is has
: Wednesday, 21 November, 2007 07:19
To: bacula-users
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula
On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its
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