Re: [Bacula-users] Backup in disk AND tape

2024-04-10 Thread Chris Wilkinson
I have this working now. The script is below, as per Bill's script with an extention. It is called from a Runscript as "Command = /full-path/run-copy-job.sh copy-job-name". There is a copy job defined for each backup job. The $1 parameter passes the copy job name to the script. #!/bin/bash #usage

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup in disk AND tape

2024-04-09 Thread Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users
On 4/9/24 6:53 AM, Chris Wilkinson wrote: Regarding the suggestion to put a Runafter block in the job to run the copy job at the end, that doesn't seem to be allowed. Run job=xx commands are not permitted in a Runscript as I just found out. It gives a not allowed command error. Perhaps there

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup in disk AND tape

2024-04-09 Thread Chris Wilkinson
Regarding the suggestion to put a Runafter block in the job to run the copy job at the end, that doesn't seem to be allowed. Run job=xx commands are not permitted in a Runscript as I just found out. It gives a not allowed command error. Perhaps there is another way to accomplish this? -Chris-

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup in disk AND tape

2024-04-03 Thread Roberto Greiner
Em 02/04/2024 19:58, Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users escreveu: On 4/2/24 12:01 PM, Roberto Greiner wrote: Hi, I've installed Bacula recently in a server with a 7TB RAID5 storage, and a LTO-6 tape unit. I have configured 9 remote servers (most Linux, one Windows) to have the backup made in this

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup in disk AND tape

2024-04-02 Thread Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users
On 4/2/24 12:01 PM, Roberto Greiner wrote: Hi, I've installed Bacula recently in a server with a 7TB RAID5 storage, and a LTO-6 tape unit. I have configured 9 remote servers (most Linux, one Windows) to have the backup made in this server in the disk storage, and I'm finish to understand how

[Bacula-users] Backup in disk AND tape

2024-04-02 Thread Roberto Greiner
Hi, I've installed Bacula recently in a server with a 7TB RAID5 storage, and a LTO-6 tape unit. I have configured 9 remote servers (most Linux, one Windows) to have the backup made in this server in the disk storage, and I'm finish to understand how to do the tape backup. Now, I have a

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-26 Thread Christopher Manly
Matthias Kellermann wrote: Hi everyone, I want to use Bacula to backup my files to disk AND to tape at the same time. The backup on disk should be available for 3 months or so while the backup on tape should not be overwritten before 12 months. Is this possible with Bacula? How do I

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Matthias Kellermann
Hi, thanks for your answer, Arno. Arno Lehmann schrieb: Hi, No, that's not possible. There are a number of workarounds possible, but the ideal thing is currently not possible. It's discussed, though, and I think anyone (relevant :-) thinks such athing would be useful. Which

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Eric Böse-Wolf
Hi, Would be nice to have the files on disk for some period to get a file back quickly ;) You could backup to disk and migrate the files, when you don't need them quickly any more, to tape. Eric pgpcRbpKfGt1m.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, 24.09.2007 11:09,, Eric Böse-Wolf wrote:: Hi, Would be nice to have the files on disk for some period to get a file back quickly ;) You could backup to disk and migrate the files, when you don't need them quickly any more, to tape. Or run two jobs, one to disk, one to tape. The

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Eric Böse-Wolf
Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless you have a carousel, does anyone really use tapes anymore? I'm speaking of small networks, but it seems to me that hard drives are much cheaper than tapes for the $$/GB ratio. That's really a good question. Yes hard drives have a better money/GB

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread John Drescher
That's really a good question. Yes hard drives have a better money/GB ratio, After you get over the cost of the tape drive LTO2 and better are cheaper than hard disks. but cheap hard drive keep your data safe only for 3 - 4 years for sure (maybe longer) and some tapes (DLT, LTO) are specified

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Bob Hetzel
The reality is that if you really need reliable data for 10 years you're probably stuck with technology like paper, optical media (choose wisely as many of these formats are gone too), or online hard drive space that you'll be continually checking and carrying along with each upgrade (and

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Alan Brown
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Bob Hetzel wrote: In summary... backup software is extremely important for disaster recovery but should not be considered for long term (5+ years, possibly even less depending on what you need it for) storage needs in my humble opinion. Anyone considering backups for

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread mark . bergman
In the message dated: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:04:00 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Bob Hetzel on Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape were: = The reality is that if you really need reliable data for 10 years you're = probably stuck with technology like paper, optical media (choose wisely

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-24 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Bob Hetzel wrote: The reality is that if you really need reliable data for 10 years you're probably stuck with technology like paper, optical media (choose wisely as many of these formats are gone too), or online hard drive space that you'll be continually checking and carrying along with

[Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-21 Thread Matthias Kellermann
Hi everyone, I want to use Bacula to backup my files to disk AND to tape at the same time. The backup on disk should be available for 3 months or so while the backup on tape should not be overwritten before 12 months. Is this possible with Bacula? How do I accomplish this without the need to run

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk AND tape

2007-09-21 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, 21.09.2007 15:27,, Matthias Kellermann wrote:: Hi everyone, I want to use Bacula to backup my files to disk AND to tape at the same time. The backup on disk should be available for 3 months or so while the backup on tape should not be overwritten before 12 months. Is this possible

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-02 Thread Alan Brown
On Mon, 1 May 2006, Bill Moran wrote: I backup ~20Tb to LTO2. The tapes run almost as fast as most of the disk arrays (MSA 1000 and Nexsan Atabeast) I guess I didn't make my point. The tapes are several orders of magnitude slower than disk. Then get faster tapes. If things are that

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-02 Thread Bill Moran
On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:18:53 +0100 (BST) Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 1 May 2006, Bill Moran wrote: I backup ~20Tb to LTO2. The tapes run almost as fast as most of the disk arrays (MSA 1000 and Nexsan Atabeast) I guess I didn't make my point. The tapes are several

RE: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-02 Thread James Harper
_never_ replaces backup. I can have 1000 redundant systems dispersed across the entire galaxy, and if a user accidentally deletes an important record, I'll still need to go to backup to recover it, since the redundant systems will faithfully delete it from all mirrors. There are filesystem

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-02 Thread Bill Moran
On Tue, 2 May 2006 23:38:42 +1000 James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _never_ replaces backup. I can have 1000 redundant systems dispersed across the entire galaxy, and if a user accidentally deletes an important record, I'll still need to go to backup to recover it, since the

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-02 Thread Alan Brown
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Bill Moran wrote: The time it takes to get them back onsite alone is too slow for most recovery scenerios. Hence the necessity for job cloning - AND a decent data firesafe. What does a firesafe have to do with this? Data backed up to disk can still be erased. A New

[Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-01 Thread John Gerritse
Hi all, I work in a ICT company and we are looking to replace Amanda. I figured Bacula would be te best solution, but we hit a snag. A feature my boss feels is paramount to a back-up package is write the data to disk, then to tape. Bacula does that in a way, but data spooling does only

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-01 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Monday 01 May 2006 09:11, John Gerritse wrote: Hi all, I work in a ICT company and we are looking to replace Amanda. I figured Bacula would be te best solution, but we hit a snag. A feature my boss feels is paramount to a back-up package is write the data to disk, then to tape. Bacula

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-01 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:11, John Gerritse wrote: Great! Thanks for the quick reply. I'm looking forward to the new release that will include migration. Is there a workaround, so we can use Bacula anyway until the new feature is implemented? I don't think so, but it depends on what you are

Re: [Bacula-users] Backup to disk then tape

2006-05-01 Thread John Boris
John, We do that here (Backup to disk and then to tape). We have just started using Bacula but we us it to backup to tape. I use Microlite's BackupEDGE to backup my remote Servers to disk on my main backup server. I have a network that is only used by me over night so differentials at night are a