RE: Humility and self-delusion

2004-02-05 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Hi there David! I see you've been thinking again... you wrote: Humble people often genuinely believe themselves to be of a lower station than they really are, and express views which are false. My understanding of humbleness is ones ability to repress feelings of spiritual, intellectual, or

Re: Prophets and sin

2004-01-30 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
David, From the quote provided by Michael: " though apparently directed to the Prophets -- that is to say, to the Manifestations of God -- in reality are intended for the people." it occurs to me that perhaps we (homosapiens) are just now beginning to grasp the "essential nature" of Divine

Re: Baha'i Saints, Heroes, Martyrs, Administrators

2004-01-18 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Patti, Thank you for the quotes! With regard to rank of saints, heros, martyrs and administrators, and any honor these titles might imply is due to the recognition one receives in direct proportion to their personal effort... Whoso maketh efforts for Us, in Our ways shall We assuredly guide

re: Quotes for 15th birthday party

2004-01-14 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Perhaps these may also be appropriate; if not too late. Inthe years when my fellow pioneers and I were raising our children in a small interior Alaskan community we would have a large celebrationfor our youthon their 15th birthday (The children out numbered the adults!) Because we were so

RE: Fines

2004-01-12 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
It's interesting that this only mentions sexual intercourse between two people who are unmarried and adultery, as this leaves out a punishment for an unmarried individual who has relations with a married individual. Dear David, My understanding of this is the two people in question (who have

Blue Haze link

2003-12-17 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Here is the link for In A Blue Haze: http://www.bahai-library.org/books/bluehaze/ Thank you, Faruq! Sandra -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the

Re: Recite ye the verses of God every morn and eventide

2003-12-08 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Mark wrote: Hi, Faruq, To my understanding, the basic definition of Tilawat is to follow. Its use as a reference to reading or chanting is similar to the English expression, Follow along with me as we read. Dear Mark and Faruq, What I found intriguing about the definitions presented by Faruq

Re: hoping for a cite.

2003-12-05 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Faruq, Regarding the unity of Prophethood, I believe this is the quote [English translation] you are looking for... lovingly, Sandra From all that We have stated it hath become clear and manifest that before the revelation of each of the Mirrors reflecting the divine Essence, the signs

Re: America and the Most Great Peace: More elucidation

2003-12-04 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Patti, Thank you so much for the "reminder"... There are two Knights of Baha'u'llah in Anchorage, both lovely, gracious ladies who went to Unalaska -perhaps I can persuade them to be interviewed and video taped. Lovingly, Sandra -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

RE: Manifestation Questions

2003-11-15 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Jerry, It's interesting that your friend makes reference to the dictionary: Webster's dictionary defines the verb form of manifest as to make evident or certain by showing or displaying. I realize that dictionaries do not always define theological terms correctly. Do you agree with

Adam as Manifestion

2003-11-03 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Some quotes referencing / implying Adam was a Manifestation: Contemplate with thine inward eye the chain of successive Revelations that hath linked the Manifestation of Adam with that of the Báb. I testify before God that each one of these Manifestations hath been sent down through the

Re: LANGUAGES OF REVELATION

2003-10-23 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Relevant to discussion ? Maybe... maybe not. http://www.nestorian.org/a_bird_s_eye_view_of_the_syria.html THE SYRIAC LANGUAGE Syriac belongs to the Semitic family of languages, and is a dialect of Aramaic. The history of Aramaic goes back to the second millennium B.C. It was first attested in

Re: Shaving the head

2003-10-23 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
David: What does this explanation have to do with the requirements of nature, though? Dear David, One very practical explanation might be that the head is the body-heat thermostat: The hypothalamus is the major center of the brain for regulating body temperature. It is sensitive to blood

Re: Designation of Avarih as Hand of the Cause of God

2003-10-20 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Susan: in fact, I don't think Abdu'l-Baha appointed any.Dear Susan and Badi, We have this listing from Ministry of the Custodians: Sandra OUTSTANDING BELIEVERS REFERRED TO BY 'Abdu'l-Bahá, AS HANDS OF THE CAUSE DURING HIS MINISTRY, 1892-1921 Aqa Muhammad-i-Qa'ini, known as

Re: Do any of you know a pioneer in Northern China?

2003-09-30 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Elainna, Coincidently I do, and I've just spent an evening with him (and friends and family). He was here for his mother's funeral. I will pass this information on to him before he returns. Lovingly, Sandra -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: Each one teach one

2003-09-29 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear David, In August I had the bounty of once again working in the Baha'i Booth at the Alaska State Fair. During one 4hr shift no less than 5 people came into the cabin (booths are actually cabins!) and each of them mentioned that they were not Baha'is themselves, but that they were acquainted

Re: Each one teach one

2003-09-29 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
During one 4hr shift no less than 5 people came into the cabin.. Just want to add for clarification: of the 30+ visitors in the 4hr period five were friends of Baha'is... We actually had hundreds visit the Baha'i booth during the run of the Fair as I'm sure is the case throughout the US as

Re: Literalism

2003-09-28 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Mark, In your response to William: You are using the term literalism differently than I am. Got me thinking this is probably why sometimes your comments leave me with more questions than answers... ;- ) Reflecting on other views you've expressed (my past experience) is it more accurate to

Re: Bathing

2003-09-23 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
It hath been enjoined upon you to pare your nails, to bathe yourselves each week in water that covereth your bodies, and to clean yourselves with whatsoever ye have formerly employed. Dear David, It's fairly obvious why it is advisable to pare our nails. The fingers of the hands are employed in

Re: Bathing

2003-09-23 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
So in this passage I don't see the meaning you do. Dear David, One final word (from me) on the subject of bathing... Absolve: ...to set free from an obligation or the consequences of guilt Lovingly, Sandra -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: Forsaking home, kindred, friends...

2003-09-15 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Sailing northward as far as Alaska [Margaret Green, Susan Rice, Emogene Hoagg, Marion Jack], pushing on to the West Indies ???, Mrs Emogene Hoagg was directed to Italy. (H.M. Balyuzi, Abdu'l-Baha - The Centre of the Covenant, p. 407) Marion Jack: For over thirty years, with an enlarged

Re: Trailers

2003-09-12 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
OK, so if lengthy msgs are a problem for a few, how about an education campaign for the others on how to eliminate the html version from their msgs? Dear Don, It's easy enough to do - unfortunately, I often forget, because all my other e-mail correspondence to-and-from me is in html. (the

Re: Whoso layeth claim...

2003-09-09 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear David, Sorry, I also intended to ask forthereference statement you attributed to the Guardian in this comment... but since Shoghi Effendi indicated 'Abdu'l-Baha Revealed things I get a bit uncomfortable when believers make comments as statements of fact, suggesting that ALL

Re: Manifestations only from the east?

2003-09-06 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear David, Please forgive me, sometimes I forget that not everyone on this list has been reading my opinions for years! [How arrogant of me!] You replied: I'm having difficulty understanding how belief that there have been Indigenous (Western) Prophets is in line with the belief that ALL

Manifestations only from the east?

2003-09-05 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Matt, (and David) Firstly, I tend to agree with you that there are no assurances in the Writings (to my knowledge) the Universal House of Justice will automatically "recognize" the next Manifestation. If someone knows of a passage that lends itself to such assurance I would welcome

Re: Revival and Decline

2003-09-04 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Brent, You quoted your friend: Ask yourself, 'Does it pass the smell test?' You are no doubt aware that Baha'u'llah, also, endorses the smell test... References below. Lovingly, Sandra Glorified art Thou, O Lord my God! Rain down, I beseech Thee, from the clouds of Thine overflowing

Re: Sex and marriage

2003-08-18 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Sheila wrote: If we want celibacy outside of marriage we should encourageyoung marriages with extended family support. Financially and emotionally both families should work togather to help the young couple provide for their children, work out their problems and raise the next generation. I

Re: Anything new on the House and women question?

2003-08-14 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
But most religions have affirmed women's spiritual equality. If that is all we are talking about when we speak of equality, then what progress have we made over Islam which asserts women are spiritually egual but socially different? 2) It tends to some rather disturbing speculations about

Re: Descent of Baha'u'llah (VERY LONG)

2003-08-14 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Geoff, Finding your inquiry fascinating I've done a bit of research. Long ago I had concluded, to my personal satisfaction, the lineage of Baha'u'llah, however, the argument related to Jehoiachin was something new and that led me, naturally, to the Bible. First the lineage of Baha'u'llah