Perfect Orchard -soil test
What do you need to look for in a soil test, and why ?
looking for an ag interpretation
Per Garp/NH
Per - For a literal answer to your question, Go to the EarthWorks
site I gave you the url for earlier. There you can find both a blank
soil test form (results ie
I spoke to Hugh Courtney this a.m.
He has 3 Kings kits on hand. I pass this info to you as a service.
There is no mercantile intent.
Shipping, due to the holidays and the weekends, is problematic,
however, since this prep must be initiated on Dec 31.
If you are interested in applying three
Lloyd said:
Roger, dont you think you have got a bit carried away with this?
Lloyd , I assume that Roger was responding to my more generalized
statement about the use of artificial fertilizers to jump start a
depleted piece of ground.
Roger, I appreciate that you spoke up for the finer
This info from the Three Kings Prep kit as provided by JPI. This is
scanned from colored paper and passed on unproofread. Please make the
most of the information here. It's not to late to order this prep!!
As we say here at ther ranch: GET IT ON!!!-AB)
The Three Kings Preparation
Please be
Allan, of interest: my naturapath recently told me that she no longer eats
much miso because it can bring on infections stored in the body.
I beg your pardon? Do you have more details on what is meant by this?
If you are saying that infections are stored in the body, why
wouldn't you want them
Don't mean this to be an endorsement.. sorry Allan if listing a
company is inappropriate... just thought someone might have time to
check it out further oh.. and he's practically a neighbor of
yours...
Perry - There's no harm at all listing sources on BD Now! You
handled this exactly as
Dear Friends -
Thanks to support from Nancy, Jane and Curtis that was both necessary
and sufficient, I've installed the first of many streaming audio
lectures at the BD Now! home page.
Do yourself a favor and listen to what Percy has to say. If you are
not in a motiating rage right now about
Friends -
I'm still trying to find information on what Alex Podolinsky is up to
nowadays. If you've heard or if you work with him, please let me know
what you know, ok?
Thanks
-Allan
Have heard that AP will be giving a lecture some time next year at the
Orange campus, uni of Sydney. Will post details when I get them.
LL
Liz
Thanks, Liz. Let's get a tape, too, ok? -Allan
Monsanto have gone too far and now they are in financial trouble.
Have a look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2589789.stm
Thinking so much about Percy Schmeiser recently (has anyone other
than Kara tested the site?), I seemed to recall that we were hearing
that Monsanto was going
I've installed a Real Player lecture at the Sound Archive Page
(http;//www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics) by Mark Purdey at Sally Fallon's
Wise Traditions Conference this past Spring.
In case you've missed it: Mark Purdey is the leading independent
researcher into the cause of Mad Cow and related
Another Audio file at the BD Now! Sound Archives Page:
http://www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics
Vandana Shiva discusses the machinations of multi-nationals in rural
India. Saving the world for the children.
Let's discuss it here in BD Now! when you get a chance.
All bug reports or requests for
Dear friends -
Does anyone know of anyone who has 'applied lime' using the Kolisko approach?
If so, can you comment on the effect(s)?
Thanks
_Allan
A transcript of a tv interview with the celebrity owners of a
Podolinsky advised BD Olive and Beef operation can be found at:
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/transcripts/s377105.htm
I'll point out that the is mounting evidence (that should have been
collected in the first place) that both Canola and soy are
detrimental to human animal heath.
Sorry, M, I was too busy looking at the forest to see the trees.
Even if you don't give a hoot for canola or soy as foods - - and,
Lloyd -
Remind me: how do you get the calcium nitrate down? What are your rates?
How would you modify this if you were working in a garden?
Thanks
-Allan
Sorry Allan, but if you do your research
Sorry Allan, but if you do your research
Gil - I do do my research, thanks. Even Sally Fallon supports
traditional cultured soy products as foods for humans. Not just as
acceptable foods for humans, but foods that have long histories of
being nourishing, healthful foods. These foods include
Never have corporations been so obvious in their attempt to remove us
from Nature. The contamination of our seedstock is simply a
corporate business plan. Worse, it currently appears that governments
will support the rights of corporations to the owner ship of our
native food plants.
This is
Thanks, Patti. You seem to be one of the blessed, already realizing
that the cup must be emptied before it can be filled!
I appreciate the feedback.
-Allan
Dorothy, et al -
If you get a good soil test, like one from Jerry Brunetti
http://www.agri-dynamics.com or Joel at Logan Labs, the
recommendations for lime will be layed right for you: you'll know if
you need dolomite or if you need high-calcium lime. A good soil test
interpreter will also
Among the many insanties of this is that Monsanto can 'own' canola if
it simply contains one of their genes. It doesn't matter how many
years canola has been part of the commons, now, with one little
change, Monsanto can claim the entire plant as its own. The value to
them of contaminating ALL
I tried to find a video of Percy Schmeiser giving a talk about this.
There must be a video. You don't really get the urgency of it all until
you hear his story from his own heart. The Environmental Committee of
the Northern Panhandle Green Party in Sandpoint is going to put on a
program about
Schmeiser's appeal will come to the Canadian Supreme Court in the
near future. The issue there will be the protection of a patent
already extended to a lifeform, will it not? It will be interesting
to see how it comes out at that level. -Allan
.
One faint glimmer of hope: the Supreme Court
Pardon my ignorance, Lloyd: do you have any idea of why calcium
nitrate is not acceptable for organically certified crops?
Graham is very health conscious and he was very accepting of calcium
nitrate as a first season or emergency input. How do you feel about
it? (And, why?)
Thanks!
-Allan
Martha -
I looked at this book when it first came out. My recollection is that
the title of this book is an appropriation of the term 'biodynamics,'
Fortunately, according to Amazon.com, this book is out of print.
The following user review appeard at the Amazon site:
This book is not about
Lily - Hopefully Jim Marquardt will verify this, but it is my
understanding that sealers are out of vogue and that properly done
pruning cuts should be left un-dressed. -Allan
OK, Woody - Let's hope you are really there...or here! -Allan
Wasn't it Ferdinand who was coating his tree trunks in the
wintertime with a mixture of cow manure and clay? Is anyone else
doing this and if so, what are the benefits / results?
Lloyd - I take it that this is the 'dolomite' that Pat Colbey
recommends as a free choice mineral supplement for livestock.
Everyone - Is LIME what we would ask for to get 'dolomitic lime'? Is
this something that one can buy with confidence at the coop or is it
best purchased from an organic
Here's an early BD Tree Paste recipe (preceded by a recipe for a tree
wash spray) From: The Biodynamic Treatment of Fruit Trees, Berries,
and Shrubs by Ehrenfried E. Pfeiffer (Available from JPI)
Ad. 4. Tree Washing with No. 500 and equisetum tea,
One portion, or unit, of No. 500 is suspended
Percy Schmieser is the Canadian seed-saving Canola grower who was
accused by Monsanto of stealing their patented Round-up Ready canola
seed from them. Instead of bowing down before Monsanto, Percy, whose
family has worked over 40 years to develop the strain of Canola that
he grows, chose to
Envirolink has it's quirks. One of those quirks is that it is so
anti-spam that it often rejects subscribers from posting to this
list. Sometimes, it's so cautious that is outright unsubscribes
people, without fanfare.
If you ever took a look at the spam files that BD Now! generates, my
Rose - et al -
PLEASE, let's keep focused on the biodynamics and not allow ourselves
to be drawn off topic by the quirks of the moderator.
Anyone who cannot abide by this request, I will personally give the
email address of to the YOUR KIND ASSISTANCE spammers and they will
never want again
Evolving Concept of CSA
ROBYN VAN EN CENTER
CSA is a relationship of mutual support and commitment between local
farmers and community members who pay the farmer an annual membership
fee to cover the production costs of the farm. In turn, members
receive a weekly share of the harvest during
Also, Leigh, in your own CSA practice, you make a point of maximizing
your contact with the shareholders, delivering food yourself and
chatting the folks up rather than delegating that task.
I had to use interns to deliver this season. I just couldn't leave
the farm for that long twice a week.
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Mark -
I'm certainly interested in a copy for myself.
You can contact Hugh Courtney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get an
order from JPI. Hugh's very into the elemental stuff and, as you
know, there are very few good books out.
-Allan
PS Yes, I'd be happy buying my copy from JPI
Instead, try and get national local non profits involved in your csa's to
sponsor share prices for low income members, such as Roxbury Farm did this
year, through the United Way, sponsoring some membership in Harlem.
Got any more info on this, Jane? Are there any write-ups?
This is brilliant,
Rose - You can read the Berry Agrarian article at
http://www.oriononline.org/pages/om/02-3om/Berry.html
It came from the Orion Society homepage
-Allan
My only information on biodynamic gardening is from the Jeavons
books. Anything else I should be reading?
Rose
Rose - Emphatically, Jeavons is NOT biodynamic. Biodynamics is a
spiritual approach to farming Jeavons was exposed to biodynamics from
Chadwick, who claimed to have studied directly
I've been advised that the rights to the English version of this work
are owned by Schaumburg Publications in Schaumburg, Illinois, Tel/Fax
(708) 351-2444.
It would be inappropriate, I understand, to introduce another
commercial English translation under these circumstances.
It's essential
They have the rights, but are things actually progressing with the
translation? Maybe Shaumburg would like some one to assist in the process?
Christy
easy enough to check out: Shaumburg Tel/Fax (708) 351-2444.
-Allan
Thanks for your input, Martha.
It's a profound question: Why would anyone listen to Wendell Berry?
What does it matter what he says? Who does he think he is, an so on.
I think these thoughts every time I pick something up he has written.
Ineveitably, however, he resonates with what I know to
Pat - What's a DOD contract? -Allan
Alternatives JOURNAL
***Please circulate widely***
**Apologies for Cross Postings**
Call for Proposals
for a Special Issue on Good Food
We all know we should eat good food. But good food isn't just what's
recommended in the Canada Food Guide - good food isn't just healthy for
people, it is
Hi,
Depart of Defense is DOD. They handle the food supplied to public schools
as well as bombing other countries.
Pat
Pat - What's a DOD contract? -Allan
Are you serious? When did this happen? I thought it was USDA or some
education department that handled school lunches. (Where have I
Also nterested in what people have heard about the Disney cruises
that have resulted in much illness.
Right after 9/11 i heard that the Bush family was heavily invested in
the small pox vaccine. I don't doubt this is true.
Again, can anyone tell me more?
-Allan
Allan, when did you join Homesteader's Work group?
Ahh, come on, Martha, you know, wherever two or more are gathered..
This is a great motto...!!! What I should have said is I worry
about how long the general population can hold interest in anything!!
It's also interesting to know that herbalist Jim Duke refers to this
and the preceding year as 'the great herbal depression.' His point is
that less money is
Will - It will be 3 weeks mon since I broke my foot and 3 weeks Wed
since I put a cast on it. I'd VERY MUCH like to not have a cast at
ACRES, in fact, I can't imagine getting from my room to the hall on
fucking crutches. On the other hand, my Dr ain't going to go for
taking the cast off and I
Oh, well
Friends,
I guess it was Sally Fallon who first drew my attention to the sorrow
of unrequited wastefulness. Sally pointed out that the great Hindi
culture that everyone believes is strictly vegetarian actually gets a
substantial amount of animal protein from the weevils in their
grains. Later,
Hello, I am Doris Hern=E1ndez, from Bogot=E1 Colombia. I am interested =
in information about CD-Roms or Online Courses in Biodynamic Agriculture =
to use in our postdegree department of the University jorge Tadeo =
Lozano .
We will know about contained and prices.
Thanks a lot for you
Friends -
Can anyone help me with contact info for Lee Don Bienski, a chemistry
professor and BD farmer in Texas?
Thank
-Allan
I've been looking over the JPI website and can't find where to order
the calendar, nor the Stella Natura calendar I usually get. (I
normally just buy mine from Allan so maybe I haven't been paying
sufficient attention.)
The flip side of the 'keeping your agreements with your pocketbook'
thing
Allan, as much as I dislike the Yahoogroups, (and I own/moderate
a couple of them), they do have a good section for Files and
Photos. Ithere any way members of BDNOW can post pictures, or
send notices without having to attach mail to email? I rarely will
even open attached mail anymore unless
Thank you, Diana! You are the perfect reader that we do not want to
exclude in our carelessness!!
Remember, folks: trim all of your messages so that they will
communicate and not choke!!
-Allan
Any big emails are just very hard to download and can clog up your system.
Dear Allan,
I have just found out from Sandra and Brian that JPI did not wish
to carry the Northern Star calendar this year. The BDA is carrying
it. Tri-fold in Ontario is carrying it, but, is buying it through
the BDA., with the BDA in the US as the middleman.
No need to call JPI then,
Dear Allan,
I have just found out from Sandra and Brian that JPI did not wish
to carry the Northern Star calendar this year. The BDA is carrying
it. Tri-fold in Ontario is carrying it, but, is buying it through
the BDA., with the BDA in the US as the middleman.
No need to call JPI then,
Does anyone have the time to attempt to convince Hugh to put the
out-of-print issues of Applied Biodynamics on-line where the world
can read them?
Original content is a sure way to draw people to your on-line bookstore.
While you're at it, dear person who has JPI's ear, would you tell the
Well, thanks, Perry. This sort of information is greatly appreciated!
Thanks again -Allan
ok thanks, then. But, if anybody from US wants to go through me and if BDA
and JPI don't object, let me know. It is not like I'll make much money on
it! Probably just a little more than break even! Cheers, M.
Thanks, Michael. I wish you well.
Let me say this one more time: JPI to a great
I am not sure that you are not just being personal...Would you
have started this campagne of Michael Roboz bashing if it was
somebody else?
Please don't be paranoid, Michael. My objections are not directed to
you as a person. My objections are directed at your actions and to
any actions
Jeez, maybe Gil is right
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-Allan Balliett
moderator
BD Now!
Michael -
I appreciate you and I apologize for not being sensitive to your own
circumstances. It's very clear that I did misread where you were
coming from, but, regardless of that, the results would be the same.
I apologize to everyone for dragging out this discussion on the list
but I hope
Michael - Normally flat-out commercial announcements go through me
before they go to the list. Of course, this one is right on topic and
no harm has been done. I do want to make a few comments that I would
have made to you in private had you addressed this off-line initially.
As far as I know,
In the article it stated, Now the corporate titan must play by the same
rules as the biodynamic farmer.
I can only say that I hope that Beth's statement is accurate. -Allan
MIchael - JPI is not on-line. I will call them tomorrow and see what
the story is. I do not know for a fact that they have it this year,
but one would assume that they would. If JPI does not plan to carry
the Keats calendar this coming year, you can count me as a customer.
(What do you expect
of times a week and
then remember the days and times preferred for tasks, if the other factors
like soil moisture allow.
Gil
Allan Balliett wrote:
Michael - Normally flat-out commercial announcements go through me
before they go to the list. Of course, this one is right on topic and
no harm has
By the way, what will you do with all the money? Are there BD farms
in the Caymans?
It's Funny, Nancy. Having been doing this so long, my needs for
financial support have been sort of a concise history of the
development of desktop technology. We've moved from needing more
diskettes, to
In a message dated 11/29/02 8:31:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
maybe I'll get my deadened ass into gear and implement this
promise.
Great idea, bravo...sstorch
The slow down has been out of deference to Hugh Courtney's strong
support of the bio/anthro reader. I have been hesitant to
Drawn from Jane's recent post for emphasis AB
In the meantime, you, me, all of us, have to get together and come
up with a plan that gets this country back in our hands. I have a
few ideas. I'll bet you do, too. Why don't we have an online
brainstorming session from now through the holidays?
Calling it the largest source of untapped life left on Earth, the
UN Environment Programme (UNEP) has announced a new $26 million
project to understand and utilize the life forms underground.
Another example of Rome building a church on the site of one of our temples?
To learn about the soil
Source info below. In the meantime, how many of these have you read??
The Next Green Revolution: Essential Steps to a Healthy, Sustainable
Agriculture by James E. Horne and Maura McDermott, Food Products
Press, ISBN: 1560228865, 2002
* Agroecology; the Scientific Basis of Alternative
Thanks to the many who have 'reminded' me about this again this year!
I've just re-installed the 'real' gardening for the future pages
whick include to linkthrough portal to
Amazon.com.(http://www.gardeningforthefuture.com)
I'm writing this to ask you that if you are doing Christmas shopping
Allan
What would be the technology required at the recieval end? I have a fairly
old computer - what minimum capacity (cpu, memory, and modem line speed)
would we need to do this - it sure sounds a good idea.
Lloyd Charles
Lloyd - Yes, two weeks on DSL and I'm getting arrogant!!
Streamng audio
I just want everyone to know that about two hours after I made the
request to imagine my foot regaining wholeness, all pain left my foot
and an honest-to-god sense of well being entered it. This sense of
glowing wellness has remained through the night. The temptation to
throw down my
Great! Let' make some time at ACRES for getting this conceptually organized!!
Thanks, Hugh, your openess is a glowing example to us all.
-Allan
Dear Allan, List,
Go guys! If the means exist I'm into the teaching.
Hugh
A helpful woman at the Steiner bookstore in Spring Valley yesterday
said astrosophy is the marriage between contemporary astrology
anthroposophy.
JS
Bless you, Jane, for keeping this conversation out in the light of
day. And bless everyone who feels that 'words are not enough.' -Allan
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Thanks for the thought, Jane.
BD NOW! Posters: Even on crutches I cannot tolerate the posting of
files to BD Now! Please refer to graphics off from the list by siting
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Thanks!!
-Allan
I've never understood: will the same word always evoke the same
crystal structure? If not, doesn't the idea that all crystals are
different sort of make this concept suspect?
Just asking!
-Allan
Jeff's got a new book out. It's called The Best of the Barefoot
Farmer. Find out more about it at http://www.barefootfarmer.com or
email him at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Biodynamics
Macon County Chronicle July 24, 2001
Biodynamics has an organic farming method, born in 1924, which
suggests that
This article is from the Macon County Chronicle. See earlier post for
contact info for Jeff Poppen and info on how to buy his newest book.
Community Supported Agriculture (CSA)
Jeff Poppen
Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) is the way we market about half
of our farm's produce. I still
Come on Allan! Intent intent intent!
Lost me again, Jane. I accept the intention. I'm just not clear on
the proof, if there is one. -Allan
This is pie-in-the-sky for now, so don't let it disuade any Aussies
from attending Hugh's forthcoming lectures, but we should work to
figure out how to put Hugh and other popular BD lecturers on
Pay-for-View net broadcasts so that they can get the income and more
people can get the teachings.
Michelle: Green manure crops work best if turned back in with as much bulk
as possible. Feeding off to livestock is just not the same unless you
collect the manure and compost it and respread it. In fact by feeding it off
you are depleting your soil and unless you have high biological activity the
As Gil Scott-Heron said, in another time, another place, for a different
reason:
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
I hadn't even considered that I was depleting the soil
doing this. I guess that I struggle with that concept. Isn't this really
how nature's system works and nutrients get recycled?
Michelle - In nature's system the animal's carcass and all the
nutrients stockpiled therein also eventually
What they usually have in their suitcases are a bunch of little koala
beers that have spring loaded arms that will let them grip pencils,
much to the delight of North American children.
-Allan
Thanks Allan - nice save
LCharles
Charles, I swear I meant to say 'bears' BEARS. It was not
This essay was written as though the polls themselves were not
already contaminated. As though intelligent and charismatic liberal
politicians in this country have not been culled through assasination
or media-fueled scandals in this country since the Kennedy
assasination. (I mean, folks, do
Am I coming down to talk about compost teas etc for this??? Are you coming to
Lancaster the 28-29 January for the viticulture workshop???
Steve - We do no have definite plans here yet, but I'm working on it.
People want tangible proof of the pudding before they commit land,
time to bd in this
Which reminds me: What is Willard Water?
I've never given it much thought but learned the other day that
Salatin puts it in his chicken waterers. If you know, Joel, it must
really be something if HE is paying the price for it.
I saw some in the local Health Store. I think it was $9 for 3oz or
At any rate this fall I could see the symptoms of disturbed orgone energy.
This manifests in these puffy small dirty grey clouds floating in a blue sky.
As I stared into the blue you could see large patches devoid of the orgone.
I pondered this and tried an experiment. I stood [by the cows]
Forwarded from Will Winter
Having once beaten Thich Nhat Hanh in a fair fight, I later realized
that the loss was entirely my own. Once calling Thich Nhat Hanh 'a
coyote' in a public place, raising much outspoken ire in others, I
came to find out from one of his teachers years later that
Looks like you've done a lot of good, hard work, Steve.
I'm not sure what you were saying about not having enough help for
spraying. Do you mean, aside from CT applications, spraying chemicals
for pests?
I'm very curious about the measureable results of your efforts. For
example, what do your
Thanks to Jeff on the CT list, here's the article that resulted from
the long interview with Elaine Ingham during the lunch at Blue Ridge
Center on Saturday at the BIODYNAMIC CONFERENCE this past October.
Note how the conference, the garden, etc, have been written out of
the story! Maybe
Steve -
Can you explain how bd is used at MACARI?
The impression that I get from the webpage is that is is used in
conjunction with conventional practices. I'm wondering if this is an
inaccurate impression. (?)
I'd like to hear more about what you are involved in there and how
they are
I would have thought
you'd get a group in Santa Fe easy - maybe the title scared them off?
Lloyd, Hugh, et al -
My impression is that the event was not publicized very well. I'm a
Bioneer associate and I receieved no direct mail or email on this
event. I imagine that the Bioneer people
Why don't you try reaching out to the pagan community, a more earth based
'religion' than the so called new age.
When I said 'New Age,' I was, carelessly or not, including Pagans.
I think it is important to remember that biodynamics is an evolved
discipline. For the most part, the current
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