Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[ddchapa09]

Im not even trying to flash it anymore i was trying to have it boot from the sd 
chip and even thats not working

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[evilwulfie]

LOL @ angstrom

if i remember right it probably has only 2gb emmc on that board
so flashing is not an option




On 2/14/2020 7:23 PM, ddchap...@gmail.com wrote:

Followed the instructions.
Two user leds turned on
They did not blink just stayed like that for a while
I tried yhe sd with the kali image and the lights did not even turn on.
Removed the sd chip and applied power and angstrom booted up with the gui

n Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:24 AM   wrote:

ok.  so the image i was trying to flash to my BBB was a 4gb sd chip bootable.  
not a flash image.  if i put the 4gb sd bootable version in the sd slot then i 
should have seen the device boot but it didnt.  i was expecting a flash 
process.  right there i see a red flag.
why would the bootable sd not boot?  the image is corrupt? am i supposed to 
download and create the image using the BBB?  Ive been doing everything on my 
laptop.




It will boot, just follow these directions exactly..


Plug in SD card.
Using your finger nail, hold down the boot button.
Insert power with other hand.
Once LED's start to blink, remove finger nail from button.


Regards,

F



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[ddchapa09]

Followed the instructions.
Two user leds turned on 
They did not blink just stayed like that for a while 
I tried yhe sd with the kali image and the lights did not even turn on.
Removed the sd chip and applied power and angstrom booted up with the gui

n Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:24 AM   wrote:
> 
> ok.  so the image i was trying to flash to my BBB was a 4gb sd chip bootable. 
>  not a flash image.  if i put the 4gb sd bootable version in the sd slot then 
> i should have seen the device boot but it didnt.  i was expecting a flash 
> process.  right there i see a red flag.
> why would the bootable sd not boot?  the image is corrupt? am i supposed to 
> download and create the image using the BBB?  Ive been doing everything on my 
> laptop.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It will boot, just follow these directions exactly..
> 
> 
> Plug in SD card.
> Using your finger nail, hold down the boot button.
> Insert power with other hand.
> Once LED's start to blink, remove finger nail from button.
> 
> 
> Regards,

F

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[ddchapa09]

ok ill burn the image back onto the sd chip and try this.

On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:24 AM > wrote:
>
>> ok.  so the image i was trying to flash to my BBB was a 4gb sd chip 
>> bootable.  not a flash image.  if i put the 4gb sd bootable version in the 
>> sd slot then i should have seen the device boot but it didnt.  i was 
>> expecting a flash process.  right there i see a red flag.
>> why would the bootable sd not boot?  the image is corrupt? am i supposed 
>> to download and create the image using the BBB?  Ive been doing everything 
>> on my laptop.
>>
>
>
> It will boot, just follow these directions exactly..
>
> Plug in SD card.
> Using your finger nail, hold down the boot button.
> Insert power with other hand.
> Once LED's start to blink, remove finger nail from button.
>
> Regards,
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Robert Nelson]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 8:24 AM  wrote:

> ok.  so the image i was trying to flash to my BBB was a 4gb sd chip
> bootable.  not a flash image.  if i put the 4gb sd bootable version in the
> sd slot then i should have seen the device boot but it didnt.  i was
> expecting a flash process.  right there i see a red flag.
> why would the bootable sd not boot?  the image is corrupt? am i supposed
> to download and create the image using the BBB?  Ive been doing everything
> on my laptop.
>


It will boot, just follow these directions exactly..

Plug in SD card.
Using your finger nail, hold down the boot button.
Insert power with other hand.
Once LED's start to blink, remove finger nail from button.

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Robert Nelson]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:01 PM Dennis Lee Bieber 
wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:39:40 -0800 (PST), in
> gmane.comp.hardware.beagleboard.user
> ddchapa09-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 12:15:38 PM UTC-6, Hugo van den Brand
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> The distro that is present on the eMMC should not have any impact when
> you
> >> boot a distro from the SD card.
> >>
> >/*so your saying that regardless of what is on the eMMC if i put in an sd
> >chip that has a working version of BBB compatible Linux then it should
> boot
> >right?*/
> >
>
> My understanding of the current boot scheme is that...
>
> IF the boot-select is held down when power is applied (not just a
> reset!), booting takes place entirely from the SD card -- including loading
> u-boot from the SD card.
>

'before' power is applied.. once power is applied there state is already
set.

Sysboot pins are read at power up .

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Robert Nelson]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:09 PM  wrote:

> how do i check the version of the board?
>


Take a picture of it from the side and top. And post it..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Hugo van den Brand]

There is an onboard eeprom that holds this info
https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-black/wiki/System-Reference-Manual#64_Board_ID_EEPROM

You can read it out using i2c.
Maybe the link below can help on what tools to use:
https://www.richud.com/wiki/Rasberry_Pi_I2C_EEPROM_Program

Op do 13 feb. 2020 22:08 schreef :

> how do i check the version of the board?
>
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Hugo van den Brand]

The links and movies are all about the ubuntu image.
There seem to be two approaches for flashing a ubuntu image on the eMMC:
1. Use a flasher image
2. Use a ubuntu image and configure it to automatically flash

I guess either approach should work.
If not I would connect a cable.

For the kali image, you want to flash it on an SD drive and then I would
expect it to boot. If not, use a cable.

Note that the cable also should contain a chip from usb to uart (ftdi is
the a known supplier of these chips).

Op do 13 feb. 2020 20:08 schreef :

> yes i think i still have the one i made in college.  i would have to look
> if not i could just cut up a spare usb cable
>
> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like your having lots of problems, do you have a usb serial
>> adapter available to you too plug into j1?
>>
>> https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
>>
>> I've been in vacation, so replies will be late.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 12:44 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> ok so the link in blue is the one i used to make the image because it
>>> says GUI which is what i want.  i just saw the one in red though that says
>>> flasher.  with that one also have a gui ?  Maybe thats my problem? or at
>>> least one of them?
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Capture.PNG]
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[ddchapa09]

yes i think i still have the one i made in college.  i would have to look 
if not i could just cut up a spare usb cable

On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> Sounds like your having lots of problems, do you have a usb serial adapter 
> available to you too plug into j1?
>
> https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
>
> I've been in vacation, so replies will be late.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 12:44 PM > wrote:
>
>> ok so the link in blue is the one i used to make the image because it 
>> says GUI which is what i want.  i just saw the one in red though that says 
>> flasher.  with that one also have a gui ?  Maybe thats my problem? or at 
>> least one of them?
>>
>>
>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Robert Nelson]

Sounds like your having lots of problems, do you have a usb serial adapter
available to you too plug into j1?

https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial

I've been in vacation, so replies will be late.

Regards,


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 12:44 PM  wrote:

> ok so the link in blue is the one i used to make the image because it says
> GUI which is what i want.  i just saw the one in red though that says
> flasher.  with that one also have a gui ?  Maybe thats my problem? or at
> least one of them?
>
>
> [image: Capture.PNG]
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[ddchapa09]

ok so the link in blue is the one i used to make the image because it says 
GUI which is what i want.  i just saw the one in red though that says 
flasher.  with that one also have a gui ?  Maybe thats my problem? or at 
least one of them?


[image: Capture.PNG]

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[ddchapa09]

On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 12:15:38 PM UTC-6, Hugo van den Brand 
wrote:
>
>
>
> Op do 13 feb. 2020 16:17 schreef >:
>
>> Also i did not connect ethernet cable when doing this, was that a problem 
>> as well?
>>
>> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 8:45:45 AM UTC-6, Daniel Chapa wrote:
>>>
>>> i have a BBB that i bout years ago.  i believe its rev c.  at that time 
>>> i was trying to flash it with debian but could never get it to work.  i 
>>> gave up put the thing away.  got a soul crushing office job and havent 
>>> looked at the thing sense.  i want a new job/side gig and i figured i could 
>>> learn ethical hacking.  at this point i thought why don't i trying running 
>>> kali linux on the BBB.  i put kali linux on an sd card so i could boot it 
>>> and that has not been working at all.  two of the user leds light up and 
>>> then the device just sits there not doing anything.  
>>>
>>
> First off, by default the BBB boots from the internal eMMC. To make it 
> boot any SD card you need to press the usr button that is near the SD card. 
>
> You are sure that you are using an image that works for arm?
>
> https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-arm-images/
>
> When it really fails to boot, the distro might be missing the required 
> kernel modules to support the hardware. 
> In that case,  the kernel driver for the hdmi might not be loaded yet. 
>
> I think the only way to debug is connect a cable to the debug terminal.
> https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
> You need a tty client to use the cable. 
> That could be putty, picocom or something else. 
> With the terminal you can inspect the booting process and see which error 
> it gives. 
>
> For some more detail on the system you might want to read the system 
> reference manual 
> https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-black/wiki/System-Reference-Manual
>

/* the image of kali i am using is from that link and is the version made 
for the BBB.  i do push the boot button and the three leds turn on, but the 
device just sits there. i can try formatting the chip and creating the 
image again.  see what happens from there.  i was trying to avoid 
connecting to my computer and using putty to do this because a lot of the 
"how to's"  that i read said i didnt have to, but the videos did.  if i 
have to thats fine i can try doing things that way.*/  

>
>
>>> My setup up is to connect an hdmi to a monitor, and hub for keyboard and 
>>> mouse.  im thinking because my bbb still runs Angstrom that i am having an 
>>> issue running kali since kali is debian based.  i have been trying to flash 
>>> debian on to the bbb so that i can try booting kali that way.
>>>
>>
> The distro that is present on the eMMC should not have any impact when you 
> boot a distro from the SD card.
>
/*so your saying that regardless of what is on the eMMC if i put in an sd 
chip that has a working version of BBB compatible Linux then it should boot 
right?*/ 

>
>
>>> i cant get the device to flash with debian.  i have looked at different 
>>> videos on youtube describing the proccess and nothing has worked for me.  
>>>
>>
> This is typically the point where you want to provide more detail. Which 
> steps did you follow exactly? 
> What did you expect? 
> What happened instead? 
> Any relevant information on the version of the software you are using? 
>
 
/*
i was expecting the same things as these.
i used the following links:
   http://derekmolloy.ie/write-a-new-image-to-the-beaglebone-black/
   https://youtu.be/_nPj1cCFrRk
   https://youtu.be/oRGrm8RfGCE
*/
 

>
>  
>>>
>> i download the image with the gui and use win32 to burn the image.  i put 
>>> the sd chip in the device holding down the boot button and 3 leds turn on 
>>> and the device just sits there, no flashing or knight rider pattern.  i saw 
>>> some tutorials that say to get into the boot folder and change the unev.txt 
>>> file through the device itself and still nothing.  can someone give me a 
>>> hand in getting this done?  or point me to a process that has worked for 
>>> them?
>>>
>>> also if you could give me some suggestions as to why kali is not booting 
>>> from the sd chip that would be great.
>>>
>>> Please tell me if this is wrong as well:
>>> i want to use the BBB as a stand-alone computer with the latest version 
>>> of debian.  i want to pulg it into a monitor and have a keyboard and mouse 
>>> with a GUI running debian.  i can do this with angstrom but cant get the 
>>> debian version of linux to flash and get this going.
>>>
>>
> That should be no problem.
> That should work with any distro that supports the hardware. 
>

/*Here i am under the impression that once i fix the flashing issues and 
make sure that the kali image is the right image i should be able to do 
this no problem?*/ 

>
>
>>> i want to be able to insert the sd chip with kali and have it boot.  so 
>>> that i can continue to learn how to hack.  then when im done with that i 
>>> want to ta

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Flashing Debian to BBB in order to use kali linux?

[Hugo van den Brand]

Op do 13 feb. 2020 16:17 schreef :

> Also i did not connect ethernet cable when doing this, was that a problem
> as well?
>
> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 8:45:45 AM UTC-6, Daniel Chapa wrote:
>>
>> i have a BBB that i bout years ago.  i believe its rev c.  at that time i
>> was trying to flash it with debian but could never get it to work.  i gave
>> up put the thing away.  got a soul crushing office job and havent looked at
>> the thing sense.  i want a new job/side gig and i figured i could learn
>> ethical hacking.  at this point i thought why don't i trying running kali
>> linux on the BBB.  i put kali linux on an sd card so i could boot it and
>> that has not been working at all.  two of the user leds light up and then
>> the device just sits there not doing anything.
>>
>
First off, by default the BBB boots from the internal eMMC. To make it boot
any SD card you need to press the usr button that is near the SD card.

You are sure that you are using an image that works for arm?

https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-arm-images/

When it really fails to boot, the distro might be missing the required
kernel modules to support the hardware.
In that case,  the kernel driver for the hdmi might not be loaded yet.

I think the only way to debug is connect a cable to the debug terminal.
https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
You need a tty client to use the cable.
That could be putty, picocom or something else.
With the terminal you can inspect the booting process and see which error
it gives.

For some more detail on the system you might want to read the system
reference manual
https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-black/wiki/System-Reference-Manual


>> My setup up is to connect an hdmi to a monitor, and hub for keyboard and
>> mouse.  im thinking because my bbb still runs Angstrom that i am having an
>> issue running kali since kali is debian based.  i have been trying to flash
>> debian on to the bbb so that i can try booting kali that way.
>>
>
The distro that is present on the eMMC should not have any impact when you
boot a distro from the SD card.


>> i cant get the device to flash with debian.  i have looked at different
>> videos on youtube describing the proccess and nothing has worked for me.
>>
>
This is typically the point where you want to provide more detail. Which
steps did you follow exactly?
What did you expect?
What happened instead?
Any relevant information on the version of the software you are using?


>> i download the image with the gui and use win32 to burn the image.  i put
>> the sd chip in the device holding down the boot button and 3 leds turn on
>> and the device just sits there, no flashing or knight rider pattern.  i saw
>> some tutorials that say to get into the boot folder and change the unev.txt
>> file through the device itself and still nothing.  can someone give me a
>> hand in getting this done?  or point me to a process that has worked for
>> them?
>>
>> also if you could give me some suggestions as to why kali is not booting
>> from the sd chip that would be great.
>>
>> Please tell me if this is wrong as well:
>> i want to use the BBB as a stand-alone computer with the latest version
>> of debian.  i want to pulg it into a monitor and have a keyboard and mouse
>> with a GUI running debian.  i can do this with angstrom but cant get the
>> debian version of linux to flash and get this going.
>>
>
That should be no problem.
That should work with any distro that supports the hardware.


>> i want to be able to insert the sd chip with kali and have it boot.  so
>> that i can continue to learn how to hack.  then when im done with that i
>> want to take the sd chip out and just run regular debian so that i can use
>> the BBB to work with electronics.
>>
>> i know i can use a vm on my computer which is what i am doing now but i
>> want to do it this way sorry for being hard headed.  also i apologize for
>> this post being all over the place.
>>
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