Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-12 Thread yamasaki
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) open windows list in root menu and scroll it via keyboard is even better because of the separation of bbkeys and blackbox, menu scrolling is not going to happen. I long this feature. Can bbkeys control the

Re: start app in specific workspace

2002-07-12 Thread Glyn Millington
Gerrit Hoetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to start a prg in workspace no. X ? If so, how to implement into the default X-startup script ? I would like to initially start (using xtoolwait ?) an xterm in workspace No. 1 mozilla in workspace No. 2 ... bblaunch ? Like

Re: start app in specific workspace

2002-07-12 Thread m . ottenbacher
Gerrit Hoetzel schrieb: Is there a way to start a prg in workspace no. X ? If so, how to implement into the default X-startup script ? I would like to initially start (using xtoolwait ?) an xterm in workspace No. 1 mozilla in workspace No. 2 ... Hi Gerrit, have a look at

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-12 Thread Guido 'lenix' Boehm
.bbkeysrc: KeyToGrab(Down), WithModifier(Mod1), WithAction(ShadeWindow) KeyToGrab(Up), WithModifier(Mod1), WithAction(MaximizeWindow) KeyToGrab(Left), WithModifier(Mod1), WithAction(PrevWindow) KeyToGrab(Right), WithModifier(Mod1), WithAction(NextWindow) KeyToGrab(F4), WithModifier(Mod1),

Re: patches - WAS two slits possible?

2002-07-12 Thread Marius Nita
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:37:01PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I am just wondering about that mouse wheel patch... Is there any reason why it wouldn't be incorporated into the next Blackbox release? I mean, it should be stable enough, and I don't think that it really slows down

Re: start app in specific workspace

2002-07-12 Thread Gerrit Hoetzel
Thanks for your hints, I didn't know either prg (bblaunch/bbappconf). On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 09:23:06AM +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerrit Hoetzel schrieb: Is there a way to start a prg in workspace no. X ? If so, how to implement into the default X-startup script ? I would

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Chris Grossmann
Well, my 1x1 window has turned into a 6x119 window, but here are the appropriate lines out of the output. This is current CVS, Sean's patch, and --enable-debug BlackboxWindow::buttonPressEvent() for 0x3a7 Blackbox::process_event(): MapRequest for 0x30001f4 0x30001f4: before manage (5, 100)

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Chris Grossmann
Sorry, I'm halfway lazy, halfway under-rested. The window consistently comes up as 127x1. WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): program specified location: 5, 100 program specified size: 127 by 1 window gravity: NorthWest On a subsequent run, the

Re: JBuilder and Blackbox-- Dialogs Way Too Big?

2002-07-12 Thread Roy Wood
What version of Jbuilder are you using? I have hade similar problems with Jbuilder5 myself (but not 100% sure it was with blackbox). I'm using JBuilder6. I noticed a post from someone else using JBuilder7, and they were experiencing the same problems. -Roy

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-12 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Thu, Jul11,02 22:49, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: PS: I had thought you meant the stupid little list that pops up WHILE cycling windows. :) Heh. Careful, matey. xOr's the one who helped me put that stupid little list in. =:) I happen to love it. *shrug* One man's stupid is

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-12 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Thu, Jul11,02 16:39, Gerrit Hoetzel wrote: What I WOULD like to see is an emacs-like ability to string characters together. ie: CTRL+Z+R will perform some action, and CTRL+Z+T will perform some other action. Think that's doable? Or maybe distinguish sth. like vi's command and insert

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Roy Wood
I have JBuilder 6 Personal and don't see the problems. Will install 7 see what's up. Sun has lots of sample programs, I can do some hacking on this tonight. Really? Weird-- I'm definitely saeeing it with Jbuilder6, Enterprise Edition. -Roy

RE: xprop and xwininfo on JBuilder dialog, running blackbox (Ove

2002-07-12 Thread Roy Wood
What I would like to hear first is that after simply exiting blackbox, starting another wm, and running JBuilder (or any offending application) everything is fine. Done. Here's the poop: - With xfwm (part of Xfce), JBuilder works perfectly well-- i.e. dialogs are the right size/location -

Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Just wanted to point out that I just experienced the dialog problem with LimeWire running JRE1.4.1 from Sun (the newest, as far as I know). Problem does not seem to be specifically related to just JBuilder, but perhaps it's worse with JBuilder than other Java apps. --- ØS.

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Fri, Jul12,02 15:54, Marco Fioretti wrote: Hello, here at work I've been finally given a PC with Linux Red Hat 7.2 and blackbox-0.61.1-2. Distro and/or blackbox version cannot be changed because of company policies too shameful to discuss them here. Also, I have no root password. The

Re: building blackbox with MIPSpro

2002-07-12 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:08:55PM -0500, Art Haas wrote: I used to work at a place where we build C++ on SGI machines, and the compiler needed a -LANG:std (or something very similiar) to accept modern C++ code. This flag set the compiler in a mode where code like ... for (int i = 0; i

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread Marco Fioretti
Well... you COULD try to press ALT+F(2-6) to see if they've configured GDM to run on all the terminals (Since this tends to be quite tricky, there's high probability that they haven't), in which circumstance you should just be able to login via text console, then run startx as per

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Fri, Jul12,02 16:10, Marco Fioretti wrote: Well... you COULD try to press ALT+F(2-6) to see if they've configured GDM to run on all the terminals (Since this tends to be quite tricky, there's high probability that they haven't), in which circumstance you should just be able to login

RE: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: Just wanted to point out that I just experienced the dialog problem with LimeWire running JRE1.4.1 from Sun (the newest, as far as I know). Problem does not seem to be specifically related to just JBuilder, but perhaps it's worse with JBuilder than

Re: Mandrake Linux menus

2002-07-12 Thread Ben Rasmussen
Did you compile bb yourself? I'm using the mandrake blackbox rpm which includes a blackbox script in /etc/menu-methods/. I'm assuming this is needed for mandrake to create the bb menu. I may be completely wrong, however, as I'm pretty new to blackbox and linux. hope this helps. Ben the

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I expect the output to look this (non Java app) 0xe048ec: before manage (259, 172) w: 800, h: 600 0xe048ec: initial (259, 172) w: 800, h: 600 0xe048ec: after hints (259, 172) w: 800, h: 600 0xe048ec: sizes reflect the frame from now on 0xe048ec: after upsize (0, 0) w: 802, h: 619 0xe048ec: after

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:23:53 +0200 Øyvind Stegard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to point out that I just experienced the dialog problem with LimeWire running JRE1.4.1 from Sun (the newest, as far as I know). Problem does not seem to be specifically related to just JBuilder, but

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Chris Grossmann
Once more, with feeling: This doesn't look right at all.. I'll try again later when I have some more time. _BLACKBOX_ATTRIBUTES(_BLACKBOX_ATTRIBUTES) = 0x50, 0x0, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 WM_STATE(WM_STATE): window state: Normal icon

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:23:53 +0200 Øyvind Stegard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to point out that I just experienced the dialog problem with LimeWire running JRE1.4.1 from Sun (the newest, as far as I know). Problem does not seem to be

Java Dialog Goofiness - How Can I Help Now?

2002-07-12 Thread Roy Wood
There's been lots of discussion on the problems with JBuilder/Java dialog problems, but I've lost track of what I can do next to be of help. Anything I can do at this point? I've got a box here running JBuilder 6, and I'm ready to help out. -Roy

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Let me parse this for everyone, so they can understand my frustration. 0x28000a9: fallback configure (0, 18) w: 1012, h: 783 we received a configure notify BEFORE we had managed the window, so we blindly applied it. The numbers printed are the ones from the configure event, no tweaking.

Fwd: Re: Mandrake Linux menus

2002-07-12 Thread D. Olson
Forwarded because I am stupid. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Mandrake Linux menus Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:35:57 -0400 From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] I looked in that folder, and blackbox isn't in there. Fluxbox is, though.

Fwd: Re: Mandrake Linux menus

2002-07-12 Thread D. Olson
Forwarded because I am stupid. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Mandrake Linux menus Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:32:22 -0400 From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes I did. I compile stuff myself whenever possible. It's better that way. As the developers

RE: Java Dialog Goofiness - How Can I Help Now?

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: There's been lots of discussion on the problems with JBuilder/Java dialog problems, but I've lost track of what I can do next to be of help. Anything I can do at this point? I've got a box here running JBuilder 6, and I'm ready to help out. -Roy I

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wish I could see the swing/awt code. I'd probably sign a NDA right now. Java windows appear to start at arbitrary sizes and then control everything via hints, often changing the hints right up

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Ben Jansens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 12 July 2002 11:35 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Let me parse this for everyone, so they can understand my frustration. 0x28000a9: fallback configure (0, 18) w: 1012, h: 783 Does twm not pass this along? It'd be interesting to knwo

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
All I can say is, man, Java is weird. It's not weird, it's advanced (little humor from the Debian list) =^). (-: Isn't the source for the Blackdown implementation available? Looks like it is: http://blackdown.org/java-linux/docs/support/faq-release/FAQ-java-linux-8.html #ss8.4 I

Re: call for help -- need Java programmers

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Ben Jansens wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 12 July 2002 11:35 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Let me parse this for everyone, so they can understand my frustration. 0x28000a9: fallback configure (0, 18) w: 1012, h: 783 Does twm not pass

Re: Mandrake Linux menus

2002-07-12 Thread D. Olson
Thanks. I think all I would need is the fluxbox script, but I'll take all the help I can get. I have set up my menus just the way I like it. The only thing that would make it the best is if I can autoupdate one of my submenus automagically. That's my next goal, to write a script that will do

Re: Java dialog problem encountered in other apps

2002-07-12 Thread paul
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry declaimed: All I can say is, man, Java is weird. It's not weird, it's advanced (little humor from the Debian list) =^). (-: Isn't the source for the Blackdown implementation available? Looks like it is:

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread paul
Marco Fioretti declaimed: Hello, here at work I've been finally given a PC with Linux Red Hat 7.2 and blackbox-0.61.1-2. Distro and/or blackbox version cannot be changed because of company policies too shameful to discuss them here. Also, I have no root password. The problem: the PC has

stay on top feature

2002-07-12 Thread Gerrit Hoetzel
Isn't there still a 'stay on top' feature for normal windows missing ? read on, only if you are realy interested :-) I have to write some sentences more, so that the mail robot does not complain about a too short message. I haven't yet had a look at the source code. But code code for stay on

Re: start app in specific workspace

2002-07-12 Thread Robert
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your hints, I didn't know either prg (bblaunch/bbappconf). And bblaunch appears to be particularly well hidden at the moment, if you don't want a debian package I eventually ran it to earth at

RE: stay on top feature

2002-07-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jul-2002 Gerrit Hoetzel wrote: Isn't there still a 'stay on top' feature for normal windows missing ? read on, only if you are realy interested :-) I have to write some sentences more, so that the mail robot does not complain about a too short message. I haven't yet had a

Re: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-12 Thread Gerrit Hoetzel
May I refer to xbut/xwarppointer, explained at: http://www.mail-archive.com/blackbox@trolltech.com/msg06530.html Perhaps of some use !? Mouse movements and clicks are triggered by keys. This way the bb menu is access, too. The author even points out, that it would be nice to include