RE: two slits possible?

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 Brandon Thigpen wrote: Is it possible to have two slits running at the same time? I like to have gkrellm running in the lower left corner, and bbpager in the lower right corner. Running these in the slit is the only way I've found to keep from having these apps show up in the

Re: patches - WAS two slits possible?

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I am just wondering about that mouse wheel patch... Is there any reason why it wouldn't be incorporated into the next Blackbox release? I mean, it should be stable enough, and I don't think that it really slows down the interface any. In fact, I really loved it when I had it in beta1... I

Re: patches - WAS two slits possible?

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Okay. I understand that, but also, the wheel does still work for scrolling in applications. It only scrolls through your desktops when your cursor is over the root window (desktop). If you want, I will buy you a scroll mouse (they are about $5CAD here or maybe less) just so that the mouse

RE: Mandrake Linux menus

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: I use this distro (please don't insult me) and when I looked at fluxbox's menu config file, it had a list of all the mandrake menus... And it said that the file was automatically generated and to not mess with it. I would like to write a script that adds the

RE: new NETWM key grabber

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
So, work has begun as of tonight on a next generation key handler for blackbox. It will be written against the NETWM spec as much as possible. But, we're not sure just what kind of feature people out there want in their keyhandler. So, I'd like to take a bit of a poll. Do you use the

RE: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Rachel Collins wrote: I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and the bb homepage and didn't see one (or similar documentation) already in the works. Is there one already available somewhere? Does anyone

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Well, I was thinking of starting out by putting what's already out there together into one doc. Namely, the information from the man page and the information from that FAQ (I think it was a Jeremy or someone like that. He'll pipe up at some point, I'm hoping.), and then adding info on how

RE: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Rachel Collins wrote: I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and the bb homepage and didn't see one (or similar documentation) already in the works. Is there one already available somewhere? Does anyone

RE: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Hi all, using blackbox-0.65-beta1 and sylpheed-claws 0.7.8 a little strange thing happens: - open sylpheed. - open sylpheed again (this wil raise the previously started sylpheed) but the window will also be moved down and right (exactly the

RE: Hello.

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: I have a question. When I run bbpager -w, it makes the slit huge, vertically. Can I make it go in there horizontally? Thanks. bbpager.rows: 1

RE: size of slit

2002-07-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Jul-2002 Sam Halliday wrote: hi there, i have setup blackbox pretty much the way intended on first seeing it, its a great WM! but i can never seem to get the slit to go smaller than 20 pixels in order to get it to be the same size as the toolbar (btw does anyone know the default

RE: Resizing behaviour in beta1

2002-07-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Scott Furt wrote: I've found something in BB beta1, Open up a window on a blank workspace, then ALT+Mid-click inside the window, and while holding down the ALT+mouse, move over to the bottom right handle. Watch as the resize icon pops up. But what's weird is that moving

RE: ClickToFocus and edonkey

2002-07-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Jack wrote: Hi, I like to use the model ClickToFocus instead of the default SloppyFocus. the only problem is that when you start a new program using the menu it doesn't gain automatically the focus. instead you have to click on it to gain focus. that's really annoying.

RE: Resizing behaviour in beta1

2002-07-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It is a little ugly, will see about cleaning it up. The issue was a loose check on the bit masks. Cleaned up. Let me know if there are further complaints.

xine bug, need your help

2002-07-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I can not reproduce the xine bug 567967. Can anyone else comment on whether this is actually fixed, only relevant to certain versions of xine or whatever? Thanks.

RE: Disappearing toolbar

2002-07-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jul-2002 Mr.X wrote: I'm currently using 0.65 beta1, and I've been noticing the toolbar disappearing every once in a while. The only way to get it to re-appear is to either use the reconfigure menu selection, or just plain restart Blackbox. So far I haven't been able to recreate

reminder: please check NLS in the beta series

2002-07-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
The NLS strings have changed slightly, please double check your languages. Patches sent directly to me are welcome.

Re: background terminal

2002-06-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Jun-2002 xOr wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 12:52:13PM +0300, Ciprian Popovici wrote: I did the following: * launch a terminal window * from it, launch another (ie. $ aterm) * the new terminal windows works ok, the old one is waiting for the other to finish in order to resume * in

RE: styles help...

2002-06-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Thanks for the info, Shaleh. I wasn't quite sure how that stuff was being implemented, nor what it would mean for resources -- and since mine are few (366Mhz machine with 96MB RAM), I'll skip it for now. In the meantime, I've managed to create a very nice looking theme, err, style! for

Re: styles help...

2002-06-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 29-Jun-2002 Kolbe Kegel wrote: this is completely off topic for this list, but may be tangentially on-topic for this thread. my quesiton is whether there is any facility in X for truly transparent windows that will allow them to maybe alpha blend the actual windows beneath them with the

RE: Session Management

2002-06-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Jun-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: of the rest of the world's X11 apps maybe 10 - 20% do. The author of metacity explains this in his FAQ. If they do not use the SM library you end up playing Where is this FAQ? (I found metacity tar files.) I particularly like his answer about

RE: keybindings

2002-06-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Jun-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: Is there some standard window manager keybindings? I'm more curious than anything, but if there is such a standards doc out there, I'd like to peruse it. no each group did their own thing. The ICCCM actually says the window manager should NOT have

Re: Transient windows

2002-06-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Jun-2002 Chris Grossmann wrote: Yes, I could have been more clear. I'm running 0.65.0alpha9. I can make the change to the beta to see if it is better. I'm hesitant to report problems, since the software that's giving me problems is licensed in such a way that I doubt any else has

RE: Session Management

2002-06-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Jun-2002 jericho wrote: Does blackbox have support or is support in development for session management? I have had a look through the mail archives and I didn't find related material, please direct me to the correct thread if this has already been discussed on list. I know you can

the move bug with bbkeys

2002-06-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Some of you have noticed that the key bindings for moving a window no longer behave properly. First, this is not a bbkeys specific issue. epistrophy is also affected as would any other app which tried to directly move a window as explained later. During our work fixing some bugs it became

Re: can't launch wine from menu

2002-06-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Jun-2002 Martin Rowe wrote: On Thursday 27 June 2002 2:26 am, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, KMV Dev wrote: But when I put this command in bb menu, it does not launch wine at all, even if I specify the full path to wine. What does your menu entry look like? Jeremy

RE: compilation problems on solaris

2002-06-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Jun-2002 rajmohanb wrote: Hi all, I am new to blackbox. I tried compiling BlackBox-0.62.1 on Sun Solaris 5.8. It provided me with the following error. Let me know if i have missed something. the errors are occuring in the assembler - binary phase which is after the actual reading

Re: window resizing problem

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I've fixed this now, and blackbox fully conforms to ICCCM sections 4.1.2.3 and 4.1.5 which talk about window positioning with respect to window gravity. Sorry for beating you to the punch shaleh, but this was damn annoying, and I couldn't work with blackbox the way it was... sorry,

RE: background

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
2 - load the pager and load applets on startup (also resize them and position them) you do not resize wm dock apps. They are 64x64 (or 48x48). 3 - put iconified apps into the panel so i can click on them to get them back panel? do you mean the toolbar? it is not a panel. To get your

Re: another one...

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
i like using the gnome terminal with transparency and no style borders. Preferably i use aterm, but it doesnt seem to like blackbox. as i said before: i have absolutely no problem with aterm tryed eterm? or tell us what is broke with aterm.

Re: another one...

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jun-2002 Sam Halliday wrote: i like using the gnome terminal with transparency and no style borders. Preferably i use aterm, but it doesnt seem to like blackbox. as i said before: i have absolutely no problem with aterm tryed eterm? or tell us what is broke with aterm. i dont

Re: background

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jun-2002 Sam Halliday wrote: 2 - load the pager and load applets on startup (also resize them and position them) you do not resize wm dock apps. They are 64x64 (or 48x48). but then they are too big... the toolbar is smaller than that, and then they hang above it. any plans to

blackbox 0.65.0beta1 released, let the testing begin

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Yep, the beta series has begun. The instabilities seem to have been worked out, many bugs have been found and fixed. We need help to ensure we got all of them. Also, if you speak a language other than English, please look at the NLS support for your language.

Re: blackbox 0.65.0beta1 released, let the testing begin

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Also, if you speak a language other than English, please look at the NLS support for your language. Ok, and if one has suggestions/changes to a translation already there? mail this list, possibly also cc the person listed in AUTHORS for that language.

RE: Twice appearing windows in windowlist after restart!

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jun-2002 Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote: Hi there, It seems like the subj-problem is still there - well, that is, unless it was fixed from the latest alpha to the beta. It just happened, nevertheless: http://nielsen.linux.dk/doubleWindowsAfterRestart.jpg bug in bbkeys, not

RE: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Thats it. Would be most obliged if you could work that in somehow .. Having apps open where you issue the command not where you actually *are* when it finally decides to open. this is really, really, really not easy. otherwise I would have done it long ago (-: as a rehash, the issue is

RE: Workman won't focus

2002-06-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jun-2002 Mr.X wrote: I'm currently using alpha9, and the (really cool) CD player Workman just won't be focused. It still receives input and everything, but it stays the unfocused colors. I have no idea what could possibly be causing this issue, so I'm not even gonna guess :) Just

RE: Incorrect window resizing on startup in cvs

2002-06-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jun-2002 Robert wrote: Downloaded the cvs as of last night (I use openoffice too!) and have noticed that when I start X - I start an emacs session in my .xsession - it doesn't resize properly - my .emacs has a change in font size causing a resize - the emacs window is resized (by emacs)

Re: [ blackboxwm-Bugs-562836 ] OpenOffice 1.0 crashes Blackbox o

2002-06-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I have committed a fix to cvs for the 0x0 group window eckzor reported. Please let me know if the problem persists. It seems to work now, couldn't get a crash anymore! Great! (now my wife can run the new blackbox too :-) super groovy!

RE: Strange behaviour with iconised app (OT?)

2002-06-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It turns out it only happens when running Downloader for X (nt or d4x on Debian), and then only if it's been iconised. Restore it, and console/X sessions work as expected; iconise it and the corruption comes straight back. I've not yet found any other GTK apps (or any others) that cause

RE: Missing #ifdef DEBUG?

2002-06-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jun-2002 Robert wrote: In beta9, Screen.cc, void BScreen::changeWorkspaceID(unsigned int id) { if (! current_workspace) return; if (id != current_workspace-getID()) { fprintf(stderr, leaving %d for %d\n, current_workspace-getID(), id); //... I think the printf ought to be

RE: window resizing problem

2002-06-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jun-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: Blackbox seems to be having problems with windows that resize themselves. I've seen this three times now - with the xmms playlist, switching between shaded and normal views (I'm guessing bb just sees it as a resize), gkrellm when, for instance, a network link

0.65.0 alpha9 released

2002-06-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
as usual, http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm - better support for X servers with multiple depths/visuals available - fix for crash in menu code - rapid changing of workspaces no longer results in an assert failing - once again, cleanup of the strut code with hidden toolbar/slit - better

RE: current CVS has focus problems

2002-06-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Jun-2002 Georg Nikodym wrote: I'm running the latest blackbox code from CVS and observing the following focus problem. I have sloppy focus set but if I move my pointer into my xmms window, keyboard focus does not follow. Focus _does_ follow my pointer between xterms... I do not

RE: current CVS has focus problems

2002-06-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Jun-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Looking more closely at the problem I notice that the focus problem is with sticky windows. Focus successfully transfers to a sticky window in the workspace in which it was created but not other workspaces. aha! that helps. I added code

RE: current CVS has focus problems

2002-06-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Jun-2002 Georg Nikodym wrote: On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 18:07, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: This should not be too hard to solve. Thanks. ok, update from cvs and give it a try. Sorry, correction. The focus problem is gone, but the focus indication in the title bar is still broken

RE: current CVS has focus problems

2002-06-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Jun-2002 Georg Nikodym wrote: On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 18:30, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 20-Jun-2002 Georg Nikodym wrote: On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 18:07, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: sticky windows were not meant to be used after being marked sticky. The expected use was for clocks

RE: mouse question

2002-06-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jun-2002 Brian Hechinger wrote: ok, now that i've got it working, i'm not having much luck getting the mouse switched to left-handed mode. bbconf is out of the question unless i manage to get Qt installed, but from what i hear, that's not so easy on IRIX. any pointers? blackbox

RE: Disable Alt-click?

2002-06-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 17-Jun-2002 Shea wrote: I think I sent this to the wrong list earlier. Here it is again (twice if I'm wrong, ill be brief!). I'm using software under irix (6.5.15) which requires the alt-click keybinds to be free (maya). Has anyone, for some reason, determined a quick way to

RE: Xsgi Visual Problem Update (and menu config question)

2002-06-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 18-Jun-2002 Brian Hechinger wrote: ok, my complete lack of understand of SGI kit has caused some issues here. adding -depth 24 -class TrueColor to /var/X11/xdm/Xservers was indeed the solution to the problem. my error was that i thought exiting my session and logging back in would twist

RE: struts - autohide

2002-06-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jun-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: Struts aren't positioned correctly when the toolbar and/or the slit are set to auto-hide. With toolbar at top-center, auto-hide on, there is a gap the size of the border between the edge of the toolbar (border) and the strut (or outside of window border when

RE: struts - autohide

2002-06-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
The strut does appear to be recomputed when auto hide is enabled. However there is a problem with the border width being over used. With a border width of 1 or 2 this is hard to notice, I set mine to 4 to make it obvious. Problem found. When either the slit or toolbar is hidden all

RE: autohide + strut + slit still not working properly

2002-06-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jun-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: The toolbar problem is fixed, but the slit's strut is still not updating - the strut acts as if the slit is *not* hidden, but full-size. So, in my case, although the slit is (when hidden) about 3 px high, the strut is still about 25px off the bottom of the

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jun-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: Hi, Just posting a little issue I have with BlackBox, just to see if anyone else is having similar problems. It concerns version 0.65alpha8: After about 30-35 hours of operation (samme X session), BlackBox suddenly dies for no obvious reason, and

Re: Workspace change crash ( ....death after 30-35 hours of cont

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jun-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: I have managed to crash blackbox on workspace change and gotten a core. Gaim seems to be in the clear, since I was not running GAIM this time.. I managed to crash blackbox by randomly and fast changing between all workspaces. (by keyboard shortcuts) Java

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jun-2002 Ryan Harris wrote: On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 18:07, Øyvind Stegard wrote: Yeah, makes sense, gaim opens windows on many different workspaces (if someone sends you a message, the window pops up in the workspace you are currently in), and generally use many windows, on many

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
What is *guaranteed* to crash things here is lopster. lopster?

cvs has a slight bug currently, do not report it please

2002-06-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Today I added a patch (from xOr) to help clean up the way a window knows about its status with the window manager. This patch however has a few subtle issues which are still being ironed out. I chose to leave the patch in because it is a good patch and it needs further use. Basically shaded

Re: Bbappconf

2002-06-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Jun-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. I downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried to make this happen with

Re: here ya go

2002-06-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jun-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: It takes the current selection and sends it to an app, configured by a What does opener do? I looked at the source, but I am not sure. It doesn't seem to ever display a window. I don't see one and I

Re: fluxbox!?

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jun-2002 Paco wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I just heard about a windows manager called fluxbox, it seems to be just the same as blackbox... it's a parallel project or something like that related with blackbox?? are you unable to read their website?

Re: Jumping focus to particular windows?

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
When I type the Insert key, my focus and mouse would be in the window. Is there any way I can do this in blackbox? Perhaps using the bbkeys? bbkeys would be the place to do this although the functionality is not there right now. They would probably like the patch though (-:

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jun-2002 xOr wrote: Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near impossible.. seems not to be the case :| It does it perfecetly consistantly on my machine if I follow the right steps. This is, of course, with the

Re: here ya go

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jun-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: What does opener do? um there is a README (-: Where? tar tvzf downloads/opener-0.3.tar.gz drwxr-xr-x shaleh/users 0 Jul 25 13:01 2000 opener-0.3/ -rw-r--r-- shaleh/users 5621 Jul 25 13:01

icon menu crash solved

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I have not committed the fix yet but I have the culprit. The ever popular off by one! The item index in the menu is 0 based but was being compared against the list count. index menuitems.size() // should have been = I want to read over the rest of the menu code to make sure there are no more

note to all, will be out of town next week

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
From the 11th to the 18th to be precise. I will have no access to the net or my e-mail. So everyone play nice nice (-: There may or may not be a release Monday before I leave. Depends on if a release is warranted. I will be reading my email sporadically until Monday night.

Re: Icon menu oddity (alpha8)

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Martin Rowe wrote: Hi all Just noted an odd effect on the icon menu. If I hover the mouse over an item there for more than a second or two, the style effect for mouse-over disappears - ie. it appears unselected again. To explain what I mean (don't know the technical

Re: alpha8

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: k... I'm running it... yes, it does seem snappier... sweeet. I really do like that ignore-shaded change... makes alot more sense. also REALLY love the new struct... is there some quick way I could redefine it? I have bbpager down in the bottom right,

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: Hmm... so I notice that when you maximize, then resize, the maximize button will re-maximize (ie: maximization was turned off after the resize). However, if I maximize the window, then MOVE it, maximization is not turned off. For consistency sake,

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Opaque resizing would be really cool... That would be horribly slow, as the app's contents would have to be redrawn constantly.. With a move, they dont change, in a resize, they do. yeah, opaque resizing is a serious bitch to get right.

Re: Sticky windows does not appear in workspace lists?!

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote: Hi there, I was wondering: Is it on purpose that a sticky window appears in the Workspace list where it was made sticky, and _not_ in the current Workspace? Because it does appear in the window-cycling list... Furthermore, if you select a

Re: bb crash

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
(Almost) Same here! - run blackbox - open Icon Menu and stick it somewhere to the screen (this is mandatory to get the bug) - open Rxvt - iconify the Rxvt (the icon menu shows the new entry) - click the Rxvt entry in the icon menu - Rxvt reappears and Blackbox crashes (almost

Re: Alpha8 Window Cycling bug

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: HI all, I discovered a strange bug in the window cyling list (Alt Tab): After restarting Blackbox a few times the window cycling list (alt tab) shows many double entries. A screenshot is at http://www.xs4all.nl/~wbsoft/files/wcb.png I have heard

Re: Feature-itis has got me! :)

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
What the hell is wrong with me this morning?? :-) I wrote a feature request for something that's already been implemented to the BB i'm currently using. Sorry everyone... my brain was off in la-la land becuase went all night with no sleep. it's 8AM here... time for some coffee.

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I think I have to agree with Tim on this, at least to a certain extent. As a semi-geek, I rely on my hubbie to get me through complex installs and I'm convinced that he would be less than appreciative if I could not even install my own window manager without help. =) Personally, I'd rather

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
hmm... I guess my complaint isn't so much about getting it back to it's original place... but more about consistency. I really like the ideal of having fully maximized windows unable to move, but I'll leave that up to you guys to decide :). this consistency is not shared by any of the

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: On Thu, Jun06,02 11:38, Chris Grossmann wrote: Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Yeah... further to this, to whom to we cater? The users, or the power users? The featureists, or the minimalists? The authors. :) Maybe... but I

Re: need a bit of help

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jun-2002 Daniel Hau wrote: sorry to bother, i subscribed to this mailing list a month or 2 ago and i'm just not able to keep up with the sheer amount of e-mail. Could someone please tell me how to unsubscribe, that would be great, thanks. daniel info right on the web site:

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Heh, a configuration option is never going to be the bottle neck of the window manager. With blackbox, the bottleneck is the image rendering code, as fast as it is. :) true. However, every option is roughly 20 lines of code. Plus a little more memory as we store the option, some state,

here ya go

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I mailed this to a few people today. Some of the old school #blackbox people might remember it, I wrote it about 2 years ago and never released it seriously. It takes the current selection and sends it to an app, configured by a ~/.opener file (just like blackbox and co). At the time googlizer

Re: bbkeys leftover windows

2002-06-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Perhaps a blackbox protocol extension of Clear or DelAll could be added. This would be sent to all netizens at shutdown before actually removing any windows. or we just ignore it and wait until netwm is added which solves the problem by not using the silly blackbox protocol (-:

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
What are the developers' thoughts on the matter? what makes 1.0 sound better than 0.60.2 or 10.3.1 or ab.de.e.4? In my experience the only important thing is that you can look at the version and compare it to the one you have and that there is a new revision somewhat often (depends on the

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 11:46, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: What are the developers' thoughts on the matter? what makes 1.0 sound better than 0.60.2 or 10.3.1 or ab.de.e.4? In my experience the only important thing is that you can look

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 David Bonner wrote: Saw all the negative reactions to the new layout feature, and thought I'd chime in with a positive one. I much prefer this method of layout to the old one. If I've shaded a window, I don't want it to figure into the layout calculations. It seems that

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I haven't used it yet (just been too lazy to try out any of the CVS'), but I KNOW I'll like this. I do make alpha releases for a reason (-:

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 dan radom wrote: it sure seems like people are somewhat passionate about their window shading and placement prefreences. sounds like a toggleable config option would please everyone :) more to the point, no matter what we change there will always be some group of people who

Re: bb crash

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Sascha Huedepohl wrote: Hi, first i would like to apologize for my bad englisch :) I think i found a bug in the latest blackbox alpha8. And i'm not proud of it ;) I like Blackbox verry much! I do the following: - start Blackbox - wait until all the Dockapps fire up -

Re: BBConf and Meta keys

2002-06-04 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 04-Jun-2002 Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: Nope. =:) The keygrabber widget is one I snarfed from kde's tree and I had to modify it slightly to get it to work, being that it isn't running in a KApplication. Chances are, I missed something that's otherwise there in a running KDE

alpha8 released

2002-06-04 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
After the recent bug squashes we figured it was time for a new alpha. Please see the release for details. As always http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm

Re: Blackbox alpha8

2002-06-04 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 04-Jun-2002 Martin Ehmsen wrote: Hi. Would someone correct this problem: alpha8 identifies itself as alpha7. It took me 15min to track the problem down, to the blackbox binary file: #./blackbox-0.65.0alpha8/src/blackbox --help Blackbox 0.65.0alpha7 : (c) 2001 - 2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

Re: alpha8 window placement problem

2002-06-04 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Could always add another 9 lines and make it an option in the Window Placement menu.. :) Ignore Sticky Windows would go well beside Ignore Full-Maximized Windows. you'll actually have a patch for this coming your way in the next few days.. =] I will remove it before it becomes an

Re: BBConf and Meta keys

2002-06-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Jun-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: Anyone able to use Meta_R or Meta_L keys as modifiers in keybindings? I've mapped both logo keys on my keyboard appropriately via xmodmap and xev sees the bindings. However, bbconf doesn't appear to notice them. -- Jamin W. Collins hmm, it ignores

Re: BBConf and Meta keys

2002-06-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Jun-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 07:52:12AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Anyone able to use Meta_R or Meta_L keys as modifiers in keybindings? I've mapped both logo keys on my keyboard appropriately via xmodmap and xev sees the bindings. However, bbconf doesn't

Re: bbtools + cvs

2002-06-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Jun-2002 Russ Burdick wrote: just checked out cvs, built it and restarted bb to find that bbtools now have window decorations and arent sticky. bbpager and bbmail wont take focus, so it's not even possible to make them sticky or toggle the decorations off. bbsload will take focus so

Re: Per-window decorations

2002-06-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Jun-2002 Grahame Bowland wrote: Hi all, I'm interested in being able to change certain parts of decorations on a per-window basis, namely the colour of the titlebar. With fvwm I used to colour code my xterms and I'd like to add that feature to blackbox. As far as I can tell I'd

Re: core dump in alpha7

2002-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Jun-2002 Mr.X wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2002 00:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been happening to me for a while also. I usually only have aterms and xmms open. Although, I might have had sylpheed open now that I think about it. When I switch

Re: Icons-Newbie

2002-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Jun-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:08:35PM -0300, Saruman wrote: Can I put icons on Desktop, like gnome or kde??? if possible, how? Nope! Isn't it WONDERFUL? Now... a question. Why does everyone try and turn blackbox into something else? If you want like

Re: Menu Options

2002-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Jun-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Are there any other command options that are available in the Blackbox menu than the ones listed in the preinstalled menu? For example, could you make an application quit? Or is it possible to have anything like file aliases in there?

the crash on workspace change is fixed

2002-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Tracked down the problem to a) a code change I made a few months ago to unify window managing b) the assumption that you can not map,unmap, change workspaces and then remap the window. licq, gaim and I believe opera break this assumption. I have committed a code fix. There is also an assert

Re: Icons-Newbie

2002-06-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Jun-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Saruman wrote: Hi all, I'm new with the BB. Welcome! Can I put icons on Desktop, like gnome or kde??? From my FAQ: 3.2 Can you put icons on a blackbox desktop? Blackbox doesn't natively support icons. But you can

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