Re: Sonoma Issues
On 16 Oct 2023, at 20:16, Sean Constantine wrote: > Like others posting issues with Quicksilver since updating to macOS 14 > Sonoma: > >- Unable to even open preferences or any menu drop-downs >- Once clicking Quicksilver icon in the macOS menubar, keystrokes are >captured so I cannot even use any other application without quitting or >killing the PID >- Results appear in upper left corner > > The tool is now 100% broken for my Apple silicon systems now on Sonoma. > > Any workarounds or ideas to try? Try running this in Terminal before launching Quicksilver: defaults write com.blacktree.Quicksilver 'Use Effects' 0 -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/5733A82B-5BD8-4623-8567-908DFDF747B7%40skurfer.com.
Re: Can not install quicksilver in Somona (14.0)
On 20 Oct 2023, at 13:25, Georg Lutz wrote: had to uninstall Quicksilver and reinstall it in Somona and did not get past this screen; after pressing "continue" it rendered the app unresponsive If you can locate an old copy of your `~/Library/Preferences/com.blacktree.Quicksilver.plist` and restore it, that should skip the setup screen. If not, just creating an empty file at that location _might_ work, and then you can go into the preferences and manually set things up. Another option is to get a copy of that file from someone else and then adjust to your liking in the preferences UI. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/AB1F1D77-503E-4655-8DDF-1B6CE09CF2DB%40skurfer.com.
Re: Trouble Launching
On 25 Oct 2023, at 19:43, john larson wrote: I'm having trouble successfully launching Quicksilver. It sorta launches but appears to then hang. I get the "Welcome to Quicksilver" view but the Continue button is unresponsive. If I click anywhere else in that view, the view disappears. And the app is unresponsive, even attempting to quit it fails. I also tried using my previous Mac's preference and it doesn't appear to read that preference file as the app icon appears in the dock rather in the menu bar. Since it's unresponsive, I have to manually kill it. I tried on MacOS 14.0 and 14.1 and several versions of Quicksilver, 2.41, 2.4.0, 2.3.0, 2.0.2, and 2.0.0 and each gives me the same result. Any ideas how I can resolve this? Not sure if this is the positioning bug on Sonoma or not, but in any case, try running defaults write com.blacktree.Quicksilver 'Use Effects' 0 In Terminal before launching Quicksilver and see if that helps. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/8F88DD64-363A-4714-A5DA-3C8051C8DDF1%40skurfer.com.
Re: Sort results by most recent update
On 19 Oct 2023, at 15:51, D Ho wrote: > Maybe I'm not describing it correctly … > > I want my normal QS results to sort by score, but when I drill into a > directory I want to see things by latest modified. That definitely was part > of QS, but maybe it's been a while. I think I started using QS 13 years ago > so my memory gets muddled You must be thinking of another app, sorry. The QS code literally doesn’t even read the dates on files when scanning them. Here was my attempt to add this about 7 years ago… https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/pull/2236 -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/5EC5BD5C-8B10-48D5-8B02-E56949B7C33B%40skurfer.com.
Re: Show Contents unavailable
On 4 Oct 2023, at 2:43, James McLean wrote: > Re: issue on GitHub: I'm afraid that this may be user error, rather than a > real issue. > > Further testing indicates that this problem only occurs for one single > file. (Which also happens to be the file I use this feature on about 99% > of the time - argh!) What could possibly break Show Contents for one txt > file? I've chmod the file all around. mdls gives the ContentType as > public.plain-text. ??? Sorry if you mentioned this, but I only have the most recent message in this thread. Did this start with a particular version of Quicksilver or just out of the blue? Maybe try copying the file to another folder and see if the same thing happens? -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/D5BAEBDC-45E2-4421-A563-64B88DDEFC10%40skurfer.com.
Re: Sonoma: Permission for QS to access data in other apps is not persistent
On 6 Oct 2023, at 18:05, Bob West wrote: > Just "upgraded" (don't get me started) my MacBook Pro M1 Max to Sonoma, and > I'm seeing a gripe from macOS every time QuickSilver starts up. > > Apparently, sandboxing is tighter now, so explicit permission from the user > is required to allow QS to access data in other apps. > > Unfortunately, I'm seeing this on every startup; the permission is not > being saved. There could be several things you need to allow (files, contacts, calendar events) depending on which plug-ins you use. Which one won’t stick? The first thing I would check is that you’re using an official build from qsapp.com since those will be signed and notarized. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/3FCCD091-ADFB-4820-A90D-92DD38FE3B39%40skurfer.com.
Re: Sort results by most recent update
On 27 Sep 2023, at 13:21, D Ho wrote: > I took a break from QS after more than a decade to finally really try > Alfred. It's polished from a UI perspective, but still wanting in terms of > actual search predictability. In short, I don't love it. > > So I spun QS up again and found the results list only gives me sort by name > or score. > Where did sort by updated go (whatever it was called)? > Am I forgetting something obvious? That was never an option in Quicksilver. I attempted adding it a few years ago, but it just didn’t make sense since so many of the items on the catalog (bookmarks, web searches, contacts, audio devices, tags, preference panes) don’t have a date associated with them. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2D305E6B-03BD-49DC-93E2-59CC6FCF80EB%40skurfer.com.
Re: Calculate always the first action
On 18 Sep 2023, at 15:49, 'Nathan Henrie' via Quicksilver wrote: > Can anyone localize this change in behavior to a specific release? Trying to > narrow down the possibilities. > > I initially thought this might be from my change at > https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/commit/0a096e6d6c0f1709092c35af889daf842738b811 > > It still could be, but I find it interesting that I am *not* seeing the > unusual behaviors that others are; for example my default action for > applications is still "open" (even though I can see Calculate lower in the > list). Others seem to have had "calculate" or "large type" become the default. > > I wonder if setting `kQSObjectDefaultAction` for file paths to "open" might > help? That’s almost certainly what did it. The people who aren’t seeing this probably already had Calculate lower than open. Prior to the change, Calculate wouldn’t even be an option for files. But once it became an available action, if it was ranked higher than Open, it would suddenly be the default. There’s nothing we can do for existing installs other than tell people to review their actions and order them according to their preferences, but for new installs, we just need to make sure Open has a higher default rank than Calculate, Large Type, etc. As a general rule, whether it’s us devs assigning default ranks or users arranging their actions, the ones that apply to one type should be highest. For instance, it’s safe to put SSH at the top of the list because it never shows for anything other than Remote Hosts. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/EA947ECD-E35C-46DA-B74F-A8A5CDC67E8F%40skurfer.com.
Re: Moving from slickrun
On 3 Sep 2023, at 15:30, Roee Friedman wrote: > I'm looking for something more general. > I.e. for Amazon it's: > Keyword: amazon > Link: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=$I$ > Typing amazon 1984, will result in https://www.amazon.com/s?k=1984 > Same goes for Jira, worldcat and so on. > That is, the search is not necessarily done by google, but per specific > site. Yeah, you can do this for any site (except you should never need to type out the full word once Quicksilver learns your habits). What you call a keyword will just be a web search in your Quicksilver catalog. So once you have an Amazon search added, you just search for it (typing “az” should be enough) then go to the 3rd pane to enter your search term. Again, with Smart spacebar behavior this would mean typing something like “az␣1984”. The web search plug-in comes with two lists (Simple and Full) that come with Google, Amazon, and lots of other common ones pre-configured. (Look under Plugins in the Catalog preferences.) I find these too noisy and don’t like the way some of them are named, so I just uncheck those and create my own. (In the catalog prefs, hit the + button at the bottom and choose “Web Search List”.) See https://qsapp.com/manual/plugins/websearch/#custom-web-searches-catalog -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/AD01FFC9-0F79-4AA4-B504-B23E3A4A0A2B%40skurfer.com.
Re: Left Shift for English, Right Shift for Ukrainian - how to?
On 24 Aug 2023, at 21:35, Patríck Robertson wrote: > Unfortunately Quicksilver doesn't support single modifier key triggers at > this time, so this isn't possible. The closest you could get is left shift > + a nearby character key, and right shift+ a nearby character key. But > understand that may not be ideal If you want to hit a single key, function keys might be an option depending on which keyboard you have. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2267B686-7AAB-4537-BA5A-F490D6D699C4%40skurfer.com.
Re: Moving from slickrun
On 3 Sep 2023, at 7:54, Roee Friedman wrote: I had a shortcut called "google" which was mapped to the following link: https://www.google.com/search?q= To use it I'm typing "google hammer", and the default browser opens with this link: https://www.google.com/search?q=hammer How can achieve this in quicksilver? A link to an example will be great. Assuming you have the Web Search plug-in installed, it should be pretty simple. 1. Call up Quicksilver 2. Type enough to find the Google search item. (For most people just ‘G’ is enough. If not, the more you use that item, the less you’ll have to type to find it over time.) 3. Hit ⇥ twice to get to the 3rd pane, or if you’re using the default “smart” spacebar behavior, just hitting spacebar should take you there 4. Type “hammer” and hit ↩ So all together, it should just be “g␣hammer↩”. There’s [more detailed information in the manual](https://qsapp.com/manual/Web/#web-searches), but it was written before Smart spacebar was introduced. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/46249B43-22E9-4A6F-A9B6-E091554B576F%40skurfer.com.
Re: File matching behavior not as expected
On 27 Jul 2023, at 15:04, Noam Ross wrote: > Somehow in the past months a config I may have changed has changed > file-matching behavior. I can select a folder from my catalog, and enter > it with `/` or right arrow, but when I start typing to match a file > Quicksilver instead just matches other items in the catalog. I am having > trouble finding what might be the setting for this. Does anyone have a > suggestion how to fix it so I can get the default file-matching behavior? It happens to us all sooner or later. There’s a reason it’s in the FAQ. https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/#quicksilver-always-searches-the-entire-catalog -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/DCCDAA5A-5B1E-42A1-86A0-922E67076437%40skurfer.com.
Re: Dictionary plugin: gone or not?
On 18 May 2023, at 15:06, James McLean wrote: I see several old posts explaining that the Dictionary plugin of yore broke many years ago, which explains why it does not appear in my Quicksilver's list of available plugins. And yet, the Plugin Repository <https://qsapp.com/plugins.php> lists the Dictionary plugin as having been updated 2022-04-29. Does that mean that it is somehow available again? If so, how to I get it? It probably got recompiled during the mass recompiling for Apple Silicon, but I think it’s still incompatible with recent versions of macOS. FYI, it looks like the Dictionary app supports a `dict:` URL scheme, so you could add a custom web search to Quicksilver for `dict://***` and then use the **Find With…** or **Search For…** actions. Once that search is defined (assuming you name it “Dictionary”), you can also create a trigger for “Current Selection ⇥ Find With… ⇥ Dictionary”. (Although I’d argue just using the built-in ⌃⌘D is easier.) -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2805F8AA-4676-4E4A-966A-C49336438F6F%40skurfer.com.
Re: results list not showing results
On 19 Jun 2023, at 0:16, Craig Eliason wrote: > As of yesterday, Quicksilver is not showing me any results. > The results pane shows up, and even says "1 of 1324" so matches are being > found, just not displayed in a list. > Feels a bit like the results pane has been collapsed to just its title. > Any suggestions? Changing Results Row Height in Preferences doesn't help, > nor does switching the interface. Forgive me if this is too obvious, but do you have “Show other results” set to “Manually”? Do you see the list if you hit the down arrow? (Personally, I prefer not seeing the list by default because the first result is almost always right.) -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/B8E61C41-1DFA-49CC-83D3-AFF741672658%40skurfer.com.
Re: How do I disable startup modal?
On 28 Apr 2023, at 22:52, William Reardon wrote: Every time I reboot my computer, I get the modal asking me to give Quicksilver permission to control my computer. I’m not sure, but this _might_ only appear if you use a plug-in that requires accessibility features. Try disabling any plug-ins you aren’t using. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/0AE570B6-0BAF-4D45-8832-826E310D3F4B%40skurfer.com.
Re: can't activate with double ctrl
On 27 Apr 2023, at 17:25, HJW wrote: I'd like to set quicksilver to activate when I tap ctrl twice. I think that I used to have this set up but now when I try to double tap ctrl the activation box says ^_ (or rather ctrl space). Control-Space is the normal activation shortcut. There’s a separate setting for modifier-only activation you need to enable and configure below that. ![](cid:D03FD421-B38A-4AD8-9879-A26C7D6A133E@skurfer.com "Screenshot 2023-05-04 at 9.57.57 AM.png") I use single Control but I just confirmed that double Control also still works. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/34D55106-8DEA-43D7-8E1D-B07F79239E85%40skurfer.com.
Re: Crashing multiple times a day - have tried everything but still crashing
On 28 Mar 2023, at 17:51, reid...@gmail.com wrote: > I found that the problem seems linked to the Safari plugin. Disabling that > plugin stopped the memory leakage and allows me to use QS normally again, > for which I am glad as I depend on it for navigating around and more. It’s probably just the history preset. Try enabling the plug-in but disabling Safari History in the catalog. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/BDF3986A-E9D5-4B16-AB39-91386CC38367%40skurfer.com.
Re: Printing from Quicksilver
On 8 Apr 2023, at 0:48, Miltomatic wrote: Is it possible to print directly from QS? What I would like to be able to do is find (say) a pdf in the first pane and then print it from the second pane Every configured printer should have an application created for it, so you should be able to select a file and use the **Open With…** action and select the printer in the 3rd pane. I don’t see any printers in my catalog, though. I suspect Apple changed where these apps are stored and we need to update that preset. In the meantime, if you can locate the printer app(s) and manually add them to the catalog, you should be able to use them. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/5DC38194-F040-4D68-B57B-CDED11C2B75A%40skurfer.com.
Re: force consecutive characters?
On 17 Jan 2023, at 23:31, James McLean wrote: I know that a big part of the power of Quicksilver is that while looking for something, the letters you type don't need to be consecutive in the target. However, sometimes I know a set of consecutive letters in my target, and Quicksilver can't find what I want because it doesn't know that. At least, the target I want must be somewhere in the results, but it is WAAAY too much hassle to look through the results. Is there a way to tell Quicksilver that for the current search, the letters typed should be consecutive? (I don't want to do this for every invocation.) It’s possible to write different plug-ins to customize the way strings are matched, but that’s pretty heavy handed and unlikely to happen. Personally, I prefer the TextStart Ranker plug-in which places more weight on letters at the beginning of words and capital letters. It might be worth a look. (If you install it, be sure to enable it under Preferences → Handlers.) Either way though, Quicksilver learns what you’re after very fast. What I do in a situation where my search has too many results is just type more characters to narrow it down (even if it’s more than I would normally be willing to type), then run whatever action on the thing I was looking for. Simply “using” the located item in this way once or twice causes it to be ranked higher in the results in the future. So there’s a good chance that the next time you type whatever small number of characters come natural to you, that item will be higher if not the top result. If you would like to short-circuit this learning process, there’s also the **Assign Abbreviation…** action. 1. Search for and select the desired item 2. ⇥ to the second pane and select **Assign Abbreviation…** 3. ⇥ to the third and and type what you want to use to find that item 4. Hit ↩ -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/6B28EC4F-89F7-4D11-A285-8D264A0E2424%40skurfer.com.
Re: beginner
On 9 Jan 2023, at 17:00, Stuart Docherty wrote: In all likelihood, I have commenced in a similar manner to others: enter the name of a file you know you have. a) I don't get a hit on the file(s) b) scanning the hits, I mostly struggle to see the relevance to my item. Quicksilver won’t index _all_ of your files (and I wouldn’t recommend that you try). You can look at Preferences → Catalog to see what it’s currently including. Most of the File & Folder entries have a limit to how deep they scan. You can adjust this by making a copy and disabling the built-in preset. You can also add custom entries if there are important folders missing, but I would be selective. 20 years ago there were performance issues with adding too many files. That’s not really a problem these days, but you probably want to avoid “noise” in the results. Also note that you can access any file even if it’s not directly searchable in the catalog. With any folder selected, you can hit → or / to see its contents. You can then search those results and repeat until you get to where you want. You can also quickly jump to the root of your drive by just holding / for a half second or jump to your home directory by hitting ` or ~. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/6BC138B9-19C3-4CB2-BC23-33869B20E8FD%40skurfer.com.
Re: Question About Firefox Integration
On 16 Jan 2023, at 16:39, Gloria Lassich wrote: I have the web search & Firefox bookmarks plugins installed. I saw this quote from an old Lifehacker article <https://lifehacker.com/hack-attack-the-quicksilver-video-extravaganza-250949> : "The web search plug-in in conjunction with the Firefox bookmarks plug-in is nuts - you can use all of your Firefox keyword searches at your Quicksilver fingertips." I was just wondering, is this still true of Quicksilver, can I still do Firefox keyword searches within Quicksilver? If so, how do I go about calling up that item in Quicksilver? Thanks! The format for Firefox’s data changes now and then so I don’t know the current state. Personally, I’ve been keeping all of my bookmarks and web searches in QS for years because 1. That’s how I’m going to access them anyway 2. It doesn’t matter which browser I use or if I switch browsers, etc. (I’ve actually been using Browser Fairy, which I highly recommend.) FYI, for bookmarks I just have an HTML file that I update by hand. It’s just a list of links like this: https://developer.apple.com/;>Apple Developer Program http://awesome-python.com/;>Awesome Python Then just add a custom File & Folder Scanner catalog entry with these properties: * The path to your HTML file * Include contents: HTML Links * Omit source item -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/5CC18760-BFDE-4FBA-B9E8-3B405ADEE35E%40skurfer.com.
Re: Catalog empty after restart
On 5 Jan 2023, at 17:14, James McLean wrote: > Long-time user of Quicksilver, but certainly not a power user… > After a clean rebuild to Ventura, I now find that after a restart, most of > the Catalog entries are empty. I have to manual rescan them (Applications, > System Applications, Documents, ...) I've tried just waiting, to see if > something is just slow getting started, but it doesn't help. > > In the past I'm sure this wasn't an option. Is Quicksilver supposed to > forget it's Catalog on a restart? Maybe it is having trouble saving that > information due to some permissions problem? The first thing I would check are the Privacy & Security settings. I give QS Full Disk Access and Automation. You might also need to give it Contacts and Calendars. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/79B20102-3929-42E0-89A7-3193938BB9FD%40skurfer.com.
Re: Safari not being found in catalog after upgrade to Ventura
On 4 Jan 2023, at 11:03, Mal Function wrote: Is it quick and easy for you to offer a step-by-step instruction as to how to put that custom Spotlight entry in place for mere mortals, Rob? Sure! 1. Install the Spotlight plug-in (might need a relaunch after this) 2. In the Catalog prefs, click the **Add Source…** button at the bottom 3. Choose “Spotlight” 4. Put `kMDItemContentTypeTree == 'com.apple.application'` as the query 5. Check **Ignore Removable Disks** 6. Give it a name I would also disable all the presets under Applications except “Running Applications & Processes”. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/285FD456-D5EB-43B0-A179-F7F1E1EECBF3%40skurfer.com.
Re: Safari not being found in catalog after upgrade to Ventura
On 27 Dec 2022, at 9:02, Mal Function wrote: I wonder if anyone else has had the experience / can help me understand why it should be, that since upgrading to Ventura, Quicksilver is not finding Safari in my /Applications folder? It's definitely there! I've quit Quicksilver, deleted my Catalog.plist file and relaunched QS but to no avail. Really weird. It's only finding Safari.app at System/Volumes/Preboot... - see screen shot below. Looks like they moved Safari again. I didn’t even notice because I disable the default Application catalog presets and use a custom Spotlight entry that adds to the catalog based on kMDItemContentTypeTree == 'com.apple.application' I wonder if that should be the default now (or if Apple has an API that will show what the user sees in Finder under “Applications”). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/8371CB65-A591-4708-BB00-200DE0196166%40skurfer.com.
Re: Typing output of a trigger
On 2 Sep 2022, at 3:07, Mathieu Daëron wrote: I'm a long-time Quicksilver user but I never used triggers before. I'd like to create a trigger to type the output of a shell command, e.g.: date "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" I installed the Terminal plugin, defined a trigger with the command above as input, and with the action "Run command in shell". This very quickly returns the time stamp in Quicksilver itself, but I would like the trigger to directly type that output as text without activating the "Type" action. Is that impossible or am I missing something? I didn't find anything relevant in the documentation. To do it in one step, I’d just create an AppleScript that types the date and use QS to run it. If you put it in `~/Library/Scripts`, it will get added to the catalog automatically. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/82C7520B-BB19-4BBA-8CAA-B71B9E5C59BB%40skurfer.com.
Re: Not able to save command that has Open url in it.
On 17 Aug 2022, at 18:55, Gloria Lassich wrote: But it doesn't work. I can only create a command file that opens a URL if that URL is accessed through my bookmarks catalog, rather than manually entered. That’s odd. I was able to reproduce this, so definitely a bug that should be tracked in GitHub. As a temporary work-around, the `.qscommand` files are just plain text XML, so if you create one from a bookmarked URL, you should be able to duplicate it and edit it to contain whatever URL you want. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/FF303AA8-3D6D-41AC-97B9-A9A28645093B%40skurfer.com.
Re: "Move to" Dragging Trigger not working.
On 11 Aug 2022, at 0:12, Gloria Lassich wrote: Hi. I'm trying to accomplish the following with a mouse drag trigger: "Mouse Trigger Dragged Object ⇥ **Move to…** ⇥ [Folder]", but, for some reason, the "Move to" option doesn't show up in the results/options for the 2nd pane (see screenshot). Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? That action only appears for files, but since that proxy object doesn’t currently refer to anything, file actions won’t appear. The work-around for this is to copy and paste the action you want. 1. Select a file or folder in the first pane 2. Go to the second pane and select **Move To…** 3. Right-click the action and choose Copy 4. Go back to the first pane and select **Mouse Trigger Dragged Object** 5. Go to the second pane and paste the **Move To…** action with ⌘V -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/E1301A69-CF61-44F5-8A3B-353E25A4CF4F%40skurfer.com.
Re: How do I make Spotlight searches work in Quicksilver?
On 9 Aug 2022, at 21:14, Gloria Lassich wrote: > I have the Spotlight plugin installed & enabled, but, for some reason, when > I input my query & type "Get Spotlight Results" in the 2nd pane, it comes > up blank. (see screenshots) This doesn't just apply to unit conversions > either. I tried searching for an Apple note title & I got the same result. > What am I doing wrong? The Spotlight plug-in is really only able to search files and doesn’t support all the things you can type in the regular Spotlight interface. I would expect this to work for Notes like it does for Mail messages and Contacts, but I can’t test it. Even the regular Spotlight interface isn’t giving me anything at the moment, and searching via QS just crashes it. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/246EF21D-1A41-4075-A2E4-1AE38D4A0499%40skurfer.com.
Re: Window Switcher?
On 31 Jul 2022, at 11:45, Gloria Lassich wrote: > Is there a way to create a window switcher with the DeMinimizer plugin? I > know "minimized windows" & "restore minimized windows" will open all > minimized windows, but I was wondering if there was a way to get the plugin > to let you choose a window to open with the QS interface. Is this possible? The User Interface Plugin allows you to select windows. https://qsapp.com/manual/plugins/uiaccess/ -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1F67B5B3-0C81-46A5-B3EB-62055ADA6302%40skurfer.com.
Re: New to QS: how to search for a file and not a folder of the same name (or the reverse)?
On 25 Jul 2022, at 12:59, James I. Porter wrote: > Great. It’s unclear to me how to specify: show only folders., I see this: > > > But “Types” box is not clickable; I think that is where I should enter > “fold”, correct? > > (Also depth trigger is not moveable. Wait, it just turned visible. Not sure > why (updated internally?) Yeah, I noticed that the text is invisible for some reason, but if you type “folder” followed by a comma, it should get set correctly. > Also, I added the Spotlight plugin to search for file contents. Do I need to > adjust the depth or just leave it? That allows you to add a new type of entry (Spotlight). It doesn’t affect “File & Folder Scanner” entries at all. You could use a Spotlight entry to find folders, but it’s probably overkill. > Here’s a trigger setting for my box sync folder (where all my most frequent > folder / file searches will be): You want the trigger to use the catalog entry itself, not the folder the catalog entry refers to. Assuming the name of the entry is “Box Sync”, look for “Box Sync (Catalog)”. You might not see these by default. Go to Preferences → Catalog → Quicksilver and make sure “Quicksilver Catalog Entries” is enabled. I would have gone into more detail in my original answer, but I didn’t think you’d actually want to do this. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/6E3E4D64-4B10-4909-BBF4-DB6A4DA23951%40skurfer.com.
Re: New to QS: how to search for a file and not a folder of the same name (or the reverse)?
On 24 Jul 2022, at 23:29, jipnet wrote: Alfred lets you specify file or folder, or at least folder not file. Is that possible in QS? tx It’s not something you can toggle in the interface. The closest thing I can think of to what you want would be: 1. Create a custom catalog entry that only shows folders 2. Create trigger with that entry in the first pane and “Search Contents” as the action -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/7C77F92E-A590-449B-A7DA-4FE1D2DEFC4E%40skurfer.com.
Re: Looking for QS support
On 1 Jul 2022, at 16:44, Solar wrote: > Really, no one up for a little con$ulting gig, showing me how to dial in my > QS setup!? Good remote work, from anywhere! : ) Money I have. Time, not so much. Happy to try to answer any questions you have in Slack. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2FEAD7B8-795D-4635-BE79-6995B23F8295%40skurfer.com.
Re: Crashing multiple times a day - have tried everything but still crashing
On 16 Jul 2022, at 15:03, Robin Miller wrote: > - Kept up to date with latest versions for the past few months. I think the update system may have been broken in one or two recent releases, and a lot of crashes have been fixed. Make sure you’re on 2.4.0. If so, please share the full crash report. Thanks! -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/C07B8DCD-6B2C-48AF-9073-148B25A221E4%40skurfer.com.
Re: Sending a Messages App message throuh Quicksilver
On 9 Jul 2022, at 13:33, Gloria Lassich wrote: > Is there a way to send a message to someone (using Messages) through > Quicksilver? There was a Chat Support plug-in that supported both iChat and Adium, but it stopped working long ago. I’m not sure if it’s even possible to send using Messages with modern security limitations, but it would be cool to get that functionality back. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/CF697BCE-B4B5-42E7-8E04-F20D814F86C1%40skurfer.com.
Re: QS not seeing native Mac applications
On 7 Jul 2022, at 16:04, random1destiny wrote: The Applications folder is added in my catalog but for some reason QS is not seeing some Apple native apps like Podcasts.app. It works for all other third party apps but seems to have this weird blindspot. Any way to fix this? In newer versions of macOS, many of Apple’s apps were moved from `/Applications` to `/System/Applications`. Look in Preferences → Catalog → Applications and make sure both “Applications” and “System Applications” are enabled. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2E26AD64-9E2B-4A30-91F9-BCE4C252201E%40skurfer.com.
Re: activation - list folders (or whatever ) first
On 24 Jun 2022, at 14:08, metropical wrote: > I seem to remember that there is a setting in the Command tab that allows > one to set how things are sorted on launch. > So that one could see folders, docs, websites ... whatever first . or > am I having a flashback ...again? I don’t know of anything like that. There’s “Sort by Score” and “Sort by Name” on the results list, but that’s about it. What’s the use case? QS learns pretty quickly. I don’t even have the results list visible by default because the first result is almost always what I wanted (and that window is kind of ugly). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/C06DE18F-5D33-4F1F-9AFF-52D1FEF2935B%40skurfer.com.
Re: iTunes & iPhotos Plugins Update?
On 10 Jun 2022, at 14:13, Gloria Lassich wrote: > When will the iTunes & iPhotos plugins be updated to work with the Music & > Photos apps? The Music work was on hold because of the code signing issues, but it now occurs to me that we worked that out and can revisit it. I would like to have it working myself, but I just started a new job so I don’t know when I’ll get to it. I don’t plan to do anything with Photos personally, but anyone could theoretically pitch in. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2FFCC687-EEB6-43CE-BC30-4D2AE729EE5F%40skurfer.com.
Re: QuickSilver syncing between Macs or import/export settings
On 10 Jun 2022, at 6:39, Adriano Borgobello wrote: Hi. I'm new to QuickSilver. But while I'm planning to update from Catalina, I have to leave Spark (www.shadowlab.org/softwares/spark.php), my preferred launcher until today (I guess I didn't really understand QS power). Maybe, in short I won't even remember Spark because I'll go in love for QuickSilver... But the first thing I'd like to understand, is if and how I can synchronise the usage of QS between my Macs. With spark I got a import/export future... maybe QS has it too, or can be synced through the cloud? Or must I set it entirely on all my Macs? I have a lot of triggers to move from Spark... There’s no automatic sync and never has been because it probably wouldn’t work in a lot of cases. (You might have something indexed on one machine that doesn’t even exist on the others, for example.) However, you should be able to move things from one machine to another by just copying * `~/Library/Application Support/Quicksilver` * `~/Library/Preferences/com.blacktree.Quicksilver.plist` If you want to try to sync those somehow by creating symlinks or something, feel free, but that’s not officially supported. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/D0B45D84-B61C-4434-8CE5-59AF07D4E491%40skurfer.com.
Re: Big Sur QS 2.2 constant crashing
On 30 May 2022, at 11:25, R wrote: Thanks, Rob, for all the great work on new QS releases. I’ve been useless lately. pjrobertson and n8henrie deserve the thanks for that. I am facing a pesky problem: both v2.2 and 2.2.1 repeatedly crash in the background and I have to launch QS by using Spotlight or similar. I have downgraded back to 2.1 for now. I haven’t been following it myself, but there are a couple of [issues][1] on this in GitHub you might want to take a look at and add comments. [1]: https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/issues -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1A088387-2923-41A9-AA11-E9DD1451B75E%40skurfer.com.
Re: Looking for QS support
On 28 May 2022, at 12:00, Solar wrote: > I have a few questions, really hoping to dial in my QS setup and having a > few issues with the last update. Happy to pay hourly for support! We can > do a screen share. Thanks! Your best bet for real-time support is Slack. I’ve sent you an invite. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/805C74FA-8815-43AE-8332-E8CBD692124B%40skurfer.com.
Re: V.1.6.1 installed on pre-Mojave systems should not be updated to v.2.x
On 30 May 2022, at 6:09, Yuriy Zakalyuzhnyy wrote: > Update check on Macs with pre-Mojave systems where 1.6.1 is the last > supported version should not be displaying Update Available dialog. Users > on older systems now are faced with the QS app not launching after it was > updated and restarted which leads to unneeded hassles with navigating to QS > website, downloading v.1.6.1 and disabling update check for it. For some reason, version 2.2.1 had 10.7 as its minimum version. I’ve updated it to 10.14. Thanks! -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/70B298E4-7A22-4EE4-9977-D0C5D9701747%40skurfer.com.
Re: Gmail plugin giving an error
On 17 May 2022, at 10:37, Alex Hamilton wrote: > I have the latest version of Quicksilver (2.1.0) and what seems to be the > latest version of both the E-mail Support (2.0.2) and Gmail (1.1.0) plugins OK, it looks like we never released the updates to the mail related plug-ins. We’ll try to do that soon. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/0C898E45-EBC9-404F-9D36-F9F5A2289E33%40skurfer.com.
Re: Gmail plugin giving an error
On 16 May 2022, at 16:58, Alex Hamilton wrote: > I'm setting up Quicksilver for the first time and trying to use it. I'd > like to use the Gmail plugin, but when I install it, the plugin is grayed > out and the info button shows that there is an error: "The following > plugins must be enabled for this plugin to work: Mail Support". I have the > "E-mail Support" plugin installed, and I can't find a separate plugin > labeled "Mail Support". What could I be doing wrong? Mail Support and E-mail Support are the same thing. Make sure you have the latest version of that plug-in (2.1.0) and make sure it’s enabled. (The box next to it should be checked in the Plugins preferences.) If you just installed it, you might need to restart Quicksilver. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1BD98D08-BA65-46A2-ACAB-7E14302FCEFC%40skurfer.com.
Re: Quicksilver's Shelf doesn't keep items across sessions
On 8 May 2022, at 16:43, Gloria Lassich wrote: > Anything I add to the shelf doesn't stay there. After a relaunch or quit, > the items are gone. I thought the shelf was supposed to last across > sessions. Was I mistaken? The things I have on the Shelf have been there for years, so it definitely should keep them. Are you sure you’re thinking of the Shelf and not the clipboard history? There’s a setting in Preferences → General → Clipboard for “Keep history when restarting” that controls this behavior. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/314F2471-CE21-4FD8-950B-E8471E5D511D%40skurfer.com.
Re: Does spotlight plugin add all those files to index?
On 7 May 2022, at 14:49, joseph...@gmail.com wrote: In the past, I've had to be careful about adding too many folders to QuickSilver so it doesn't get too slow and take up too much memory. However, with the Spotlight plugin, which I just install for the first time, can I search using its index now? I've read its documentation page, but I'm not understanding how to use it. There are actions from that plug-in that will allow you to do one-off Spotlight searches (the results are not added to the catalog), but honestly the regular Spotlight interface is probably better for that. The main value of the plug-in is that it allows you to create custom catalog entries based on a Spotlight query (instead of a specific folder location). Installing the plug-in doesn’t do anything to your catalog or results unless you create one of these entries. For example, I’ve always disabled the built-in Applications preset and created one using the Spotlight source that searches for `kMDItemContentTypeTree == 'com.apple.application'`. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/6361A590-B63E-4CFB-8FCA-62554B8CA4DF%40skurfer.com.
Re: Contacts open in separate window
On 29 Apr 2022, at 13:31, jer...@miner.tv wrote: up until a few years ago if I opened a contact via QS it would open in the main 3-pane window of the Contacts app. After an update (not sure if it was a change in MacOS or QS) the contacts now open in a separate window, which is not my preferred behavior. Is there a way to change this setting so that contacts just open within the main window of the Contacts app? Looking at the code, all the plug-in does is tell macOS to open a URL like `addressbook://`, so what happens (or used to happen) is entirely up to the system. According to [the docs][1], there doesn’t seem to be a way to specify anything about window behavior. For what it’s worth, if you don’t have the Contacts app already running, you’ll get the normal full view when you open a contact. I never knew about the second window because I never leave it running. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AddressBook/Tasks/URLScheme.html -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1592D1F5-1E73-4D59-956C-BDC88ADA19A6%40skurfer.com.
Re: Shared/Community Catalog Definitions?
On 25 Apr 2022, at 11:44, Tim Visher wrote: > Specifically I have a work computer and a personal computer and I have a > list of Web Searches that I'd like to share between them. Is there any way > to do this? It looks like the `Catalog.plist` file in Application Support > just contains _all_ of my Custom Catalog Entries and has things like IDs > and such that don't look like they'd be ideal to copy but maybe I'm wrong > about that. There isn’t really a good way to do this. You can copy sections of the property list back and forth between Xcode and a text editor, but that’s not ideal. A more granular way to store catalog entries would be a nice idea, as well as import/export options. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/38EB6CB8-6A00-4820-80A5-7DAF2692A806%40skurfer.com.
Re: On startup, QS constantly asks if I want to install developer tools for python3 command
On 22 Apr 2022, at 15:49, Paul N. Edwards wrote: I don't use python, and the files QS asks me to download appear to be enormous. How can I stop it from asking me if I want to install these? Oh, well that’s not ideal. Python is used to parse HTML to find links. The parser [has been rewritten][1] in Objective-C, so the next release will not require Python. At the same time, QS 2.0.3 (4031) now frequently quits for no obvious reason. Some crashes have also be fixed for the next release. [1]: https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/pull/2729 -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/E25DE6EB-6716-4511-B8B0-234310D6C6E7%40skurfer.com.
Re: Current selection proxy doesn't work after update.
On 17 Apr 2022, at 16:35, Gloria Lassich wrote: I updated to the latest version (2.0.3) & whenever I try to use the Current Selection proxy, whether in the main UI or via a trigger, Quicksilver crashes. Help! Can you share one of the crash reports found in `~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports`? Thanks. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/8DEEA5F8-C9C4-4E22-B3AF-A687F17AF1EC%40skurfer.com.
Re: 1Password integration
On 5 Apr 2022, at 12:43, Fred Weiner wrote: I'm using the latest *2.0.0 (4027) *version of Quicksilver. Among other things, like repeated failures to load, I get notifications from Qs that I have to allow integration with 1Password. I assume this has to do with the 1P plugin, which was upgraded in the latest download. As Aways there are a lot of other factors. I wonder if it rings any bells with anyone? The 1Password plug-in hasn’t been updated yet, so I’m surprised it works at all. In any case, the integration is described in the plug-in’s documentation, which you can read in Quicksilver’s preferences or [in the source repository][1]. It’s pretty disappointing these days though, since 1Password no longer includes Login Items in the index. [1]: https://github.com/quicksilver/1Password-Plugin/blob/master/Documentation.mdown#requirements -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/08ECB2C0-3067-4070-91B0-4503C094D7AE%40skurfer.com.
Re: Web Searches Plugin Catalogs empty
On 30 Mar 2022, at 0:50, D S wrote: > After upgrading Quicksilver to 2.0.0:(HEAD detached at v2.0.0) (4027) and > Web Searches plugin to 2.9.1 the entire Web Searches catalogs are gone! That’s not what the version for QS should show. I’ve uploaded a new build to fix that. > Yes, I've deleted the plugin, reinstalled, rescanned the catalog, still > nothing! All other pugs catalogs populate properly. I don’t use the built-in list with the Web Search plugin because there are too many things in there and I don’t like the way some of the titles are formatted. But I just enabled and rescanned those presets (individually) and the lists were populated. Is your machine able to load the lists outside of QS? For example, try loading https://qs0.qsapp.com/plugin-data/web-search-list.php?type=simple -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/620F8D01-7C9B-408D-84D2-DCCC1EAC3984%40skurfer.com.
Re: QS Went...green? Appearance has odd gradient.
On 16 Mar 2022, at 12:34, Christine Wu wrote: > hello there, > > v1.6.1 installed > Apple M1 Max, OS 12.3 (Monterey) > > Upgraded to 12.3 yesterday and am now seeing the same yellow gradient color > as posted by ianp > Did you find a fix? This should be fixed in an upcoming release. https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/blob/master/Quicksilver/SharedSupport/CHANGELOG#L29 -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/D8BB868F-4AA7-48FD-9CF9-77A24B45A53F%40skurfer.com.
Re: Search a website
On 15 Mar 2022, at 18:40, Adam Forbes wrote: I'd like to search a specific website with a quick type of quick silver. So it automatically appends what i type into the url and searches it. For example if I wanted to search VUDU for movies i would have this URL https://www.vudu.com/content/movies/search?minVisible=0=%252F=tacos Is there a way to have quicksilver automacially pull up that search in a new tab when i type in tacos? Yes. This is documented in the manual (but not in much detail). https://qsapp.com/manual/plugins/websearch/ In your case, I think you would just need to create a new web search list and add an item with Vudu as the title and https://www.vudu.com/content/movies/search?minVisible=0=%252F=*** as the URL. Once that’s there, you should be able to search for Vudu in Quicksilver and the **Search For…** action should be the default. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/6983D935-07D4-453A-8B43-2D5240BFFEE9%40skurfer.com.
Re: Cannot get 'prepend' to work on text files
On 11 Feb 2022, at 6:26, Dave Everitt wrote: > thanks - hadn’t spotted that. Been using QS for years, and there are still > ‘mysteries’ to discover ;-) I’ve been working on the code for 11 years, and I’m convinced that we will never know everything it can do. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/BC87B57C-F53E-4155-980E-A3C9DDB0FF2A%40skurfer.com.
Re: Hide of the file name
On 9 Feb 2022, at 8:38, FreizeitElch wrote: > Exactly, that's what I mean. Just the icon without the App name. Like I said, try the different interfaces, but I don’t know of one that hides names. (Keep in mind that QS shows lots of things besides files, and that many files have the same icons.) You might be able to achieve this by setting the text and background to the same color in Preferences → General → Appearance. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/B32BB09F-C865-4B30-B40D-A8C60E9EB3D1%40skurfer.com.
Re: QS ver 1.6.1 - can't load plugins
On 17 Jan 2022, at 8:12, Jader Francia wrote: > I've installed the "beta" release for M1 (ver. 1.6.1) but I can't load > plugins any more.. It's my fault or there is some "magic configuration" > that I don't know? :) > Thanks in advance and thanks for your unvaluable support to QS! ;) The plug-ins were Intel only, but at this point, I’ve released Universal builds for a ton of them. Those should load now. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/AE7968EA-281D-431F-AF0E-45DD465B0DEB%40skurfer.com.
Re: Cannot get 'prepend' to work on text files
On 5 Feb 2022, at 16:05, Dave Everitt wrote: > I'm following an old guide > <https://www.dragosroua.com/mac-os-x-quicksilver-instantly-create-text-files-and-prepend-or-append-text-to-them/> > that > ends up with prepending text to an existing text file, but the "prepend" > command just fails to appear - beep. > > I have the Text Manipulation Plugin installed - but is there anything else > that needs to be activated first? Check Preferences → General → Actions and make sure the ones you want to use are enabled. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2CAE93E3-8B88-4B19-A169-576FF8DEF746%40skurfer.com.
Re: Hide of the file name
On 8 Feb 2022, at 6:23, FreizeitElch wrote: > Hello everyone, I want to hide the file name (search result) in the main > window. > The same applies to the file path. Is that possible? Thanks! What do you mean? You only want to see the icon? In any case, there isn’t a way to do that, but there are several interface plug-ins you can install and try out to see what you prefer. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/F9D095CC-B241-4501-B639-18829EACD201%40skurfer.com.
Re: Play MP3 or AAC Stream in Music
On 20 Jan 2022, at 10:28, · Michael Medina wrote: It's just a direct link to a streaming service, https:// Putting music:// or itunes:// would not tell my computer how to get to the link on the web Here's a screenshot of the trigger as it exists, I cannot recreate in the UI. OK, I get what you’re trying to do now. I don’t know what’s up with the Music app. It handles HTTP URLs just fine[^1], but doesn’t advertise support for them. Maybe iTunes did? I don’t have a copy available to check, but I guess it doesn’t matter. Here’s how you can create the trigger you want. 1. Open the regular QS interface and select the Music app 2. Copy it with ⌘C 3. Go to the Triggers preferences 4. Create the trigger with the URL in the first pane 5. Select the “Open URL With…” action in the second pane 6. Go to the 3rd pane. You won’t be able to select the Music app, but you can paste it with ⌘V 7. Save the trigger -- Rob McBroom [^1]: You can test this in Terminal with `open https://some.url/stream.aac -a Music` -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/0F6AEC7B-159A-4079-97DC-F24C8408994F%40skurfer.com.
Re: Rendering glitch in results (MBP14, Monterey)
On 23 Jan 2022, at 4:36, Mathieu Daëron wrote: > Apart from that, the only thing that seems wrong at this point is the Safari > plugin, which does not see bookmarks any more on Safari 5.2 (17612.3.6.1.6). > Is that also already documented somewhere? Sure is. https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/#catalog-entries-are-missing-on-mojave-or-later But you can be forgiven for not knowing where to find everything. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/B485C87F-6CA0-4267-BA68-E083BDFDB16F%40skurfer.com.
Re: Rendering glitch in results (MBP14, Monterey)
On 22 Jan 2022, at 11:47, mathieu...@gmail.com wrote: > As usual, QS was the first piece of software I installed on a brand new > machine (14-inch MacBook Pro, 2021, running macOS Monterey 12.1). There > seems to be a glitch in the rendering of the results, as seen in the > attached picture. What's more, when I go through the results using up and > down arrows, everything works except that the corresponding row is not > highlight in any way (but the result is updated in the main window). This has been going on for quite a while. https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/issues/2537 > Also, I get frequent freezes of QS for up to 10 seconds, which I didn't > have on Intel/Catalina. Not sure about that one. There can be a delay when the first Intel app is launched as Rosetta 2 spins up, but I don’t ever see QS freezing. Anything in particular that seems to trigger this? -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/0E3E71F0-CAE5-41DC-91B4-9560AC5CF32D%40skurfer.com.
Re: Play MP3 or AAC Stream in Music
On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:32, · Michael Medina wrote: Ok, did some more digging, basically the Open URL With... action is only offering the terminal and the browser as targets, nothing else. Music may not be an option because the Music plugin is broken(?) No, that has nothing to do with plug-ins. Like I said, that list is created by asking macOS which apps claim support for `http://`. I really think you want “Open URL” and not “Open URL With…”, but I don’t know what the URL looks like. If it’s `music://something` or `itunes://something`, it should correctly open in Music and not a browser. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/DE2D8DA2-FB54-4909-8DB7-76F562BF8565%40skurfer.com.
Re: Play MP3 or AAC Stream in Music
On 18 Jan 2022, at 17:26, · Michael Medina wrote: With a URL in the first pane, "Open With Application" is not a choosable action. There is no such action. There’s one called “Open With…”, but it works on files, not URLs. You do not need to tell Quicksilver which application to open a URL with. Just use “Open URL” and macOS should launch the appropriate application automatically. In my actions under url, I have 4 choices, Open URL, Open URL in Background, Open URL With..., and Open E-mail URL That’s weird. The “Open With…” action is provided by the Core Support plug-in, which is built into the app. “Open URL With…” allows you to choose an application in the third pane, but *that* one will only show applications that claim support for `http://`, which will mostly be web browsers. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/7C38121A-EB72-423C-BF34-D9FC5F7BD8AB%40skurfer.com.
Re: Play MP3 or AAC Stream in Music
On 14 Jan 2022, at 19:01, · Michael Medina wrote: > Ok, I was able to restore from a backup and the action is "Open with > Application..." > That trigger came in with the triggers.plist file > I cannot find that action in my actions anymore. > I guess it's not an issue anymore, but it's strange to me that it's not in > there. That sounds like the “Open With…” action which takes an application in the 3rd pane. > I don't want to open the url in the browser I want to open it in Music (FKA > iTunes) The “Open URL” action just tells macOS to open the URL, not your browser. So for example, if you open the URL dict://example the system will open the Dictionary app. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/55B6E73B-3EE4-4508-8DF5-8F9E1FF00FEB%40skurfer.com.
Re: Play MP3 or AAC Stream in Music
On 14 Jan 2022, at 15:07, 802re...@gmail.com wrote: > I had a trigger set up to play a stream in Music, then I tried to edit it > and it broke it. > > I know the first panel had the URL in it, then I can't seem to figure out > how to get Music to open the stream now, it's not target in Open with... The “Open URL” action should work with pretty much any URL (not just HTTP), but it might not appear by default. You can try selecting it in the second pane, but if it really won’t appear, select a real URL in the main QS interface then right-click to copy the “Open URL” action, then paste it into the second pane in the Trigger prefs and save it. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/316D9768-3491-4FC8-A514-69C78989253D%40skurfer.com.
Re: Edit Shelf
On 14 Jan 2022, at 15:04, 802re...@gmail.com wrote: > Is there a way to rearrange items on the shelf? I didn’t know off the top o my head, but I just tried drag-n-drop and that seems to work. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/7FE759A7-A274-488C-A8BB-98DFBD9AD9EA%40skurfer.com.
Re: Edit Shelf
On 3 Jan 2022, at 2:34, 802re...@gmail.com wrote: > It's like 2022 and I still can't figure out how to edit my Shelf? No key > combination I try works. Selecting an item and hitting Delete (on the keyboard) should remove an item. To add, you can drag something from Finder, Quicksilver, etc. or use the “Put on Shelf” action. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/8FC3E1E7-D734-4035-A4B9-46CA5541D1B6%40skurfer.com.
Re: Open a browser page with non-default browser
On 13 Dec 2021, at 5:01, Timmy wrote: > Thank you men. I've got this down now BUT when I invoke it, instead of > being taken to the expected page, the url is *always* prefaced with: > > ***site: > > What's that all about? Any ideas please? Sounds like you might be using “Current Website”, which is a way to search the current site for something. You want “Current Web Page”. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2709EDB1-1A6C-4B19-8994-0CFDF6A36990%40skurfer.com.
Re: Open a browser page with non-default browser
On 9 Dec 2021, at 13:00, Howard Melman wrote: > It's a proxy object, it's called Current Web Page. I don't know if it still > works. Still works. I use it every day. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/08F4FEF2-D268-44D8-A671-CD5F2374A61C%40skurfer.com.
Re: QS trigger for OS X menu
On 6 Dec 2021, at 15:26, Fritz Lang wrote: > Is there a way to use QS to trigger a Finder menu item, that keyboard prefs > doesn't seem to get. > I'm using a Logitech K750 Mac keyboard that doesn't work as expected with Big > Sur, like it did with previous OS. > I want to trigger Restart… The User Interface Plugin might let you do that, though I’m not sure if it give access to the Apple menu. I think the Extra Scripts Plugin has a restart. If not, you should be able to make an AppleScript that restarts and use QS to run it. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1372867E-426A-4F49-A60F-37EA891008FD%40skurfer.com.
Re: Open a browser page with non-default browser
On 6 Dec 2021, at 15:28, Fritz Lang wrote: Firefox v94 seems to have some security issues it won't get thru with. I can't sign into The NY Times page with Firefox, but I can with Safari. Firefox is my default. Is there a way to open NY Times webpage with Safari with QS? If the URL is selected in QS, you can use the “Open URL With…” action. If you’re talking about having the system automatically do this every time, you’ll want something like [Browser Fairy](https://www.browserfairy.com/). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/C3844477-B5ED-404F-8495-BA0519BFF33C%40skurfer.com.
Re: Triggers to switch windows within an app
On 4 Dec 2021, at 10:30, Kyle wrote: > With my new computer I re-deownloaded QuickSilver, however, I am only able > to launch the application. Using control+_ can launch the app, or bring the > app to the front, but will *not cycle between open windows of that app*. > This is the feature that I miss the most. Can anyone help me with this? Look at Preferences → Extras → Reopening the current application You probably had one of the non-default choices for that setting. None of them are designed to cycle through windows, but I suppose it’s possible that one of them behaves that way in some apps. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/463A0546-24A0-4733-AB39-26CCD10BE3D2%40skurfer.com.
Re: navigation
On 24 Nov 2021, at 9:19, metropical wrote: > I'd though in the distant past I could navigate from a wrong result > backwards with the cursor arrow. > > Is my memory wrong and one could only ever cursor right to navigate without > invoking QS again? I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to do, but hopefully this will answer your question. The left arrow has always selected the parent object, if there is such a thing. (In the case of a folder, there usually is.) If you made a mistake typing you can use Delete to either wipe out the results and search again, or remove one character at a time. (This is based on a setting in Preferences → Extras.) This should work with the entire catalog, or within a smaller search like a folder you’ve navigated into. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2936A9E4-5563-4427-8C2B-BAECEA3EDC7E%40skurfer.com.
Re: Private message regarding: Current Selection in Trigger
On 12 Nov 2021, at 3:56, Quicksilver wrote: >> >> It should be as simple as searching for Current Selection in the first >> pane of the Trigger builder in Preferences. >> > > how to do that exactly? When you create a new trigger, the interface to build it will pop up. It’s just like searching in the main Quicksilver interface. Type “CS” or whatever you would normally do to find Current Selection. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/5C436EAF-00F0-4488-A537-321AD2A11792%40skurfer.com.
Re: Current Selection in Trigger
On 10 Nov 2021, at 7:59, Quicksilver wrote: > Hello, how to use Current Selection object in Triggers? It should be as simple as searching for Current Selection in the first pane of the Trigger builder in Preferences. > For example to open currently selected file with an application. That depends may or may not work. When you ask for the Current Selection, Quicksilver will first check to see if a plug-in provides special behavior for the current application. For example, Quicksilver’s Finder plug-in includes custom AppleScript to return the selected file(s). The iTunes plug-in (when it worked) could return the selected track or playlist. If that fails, it will do the equivalent of copying the selection with ⌘C. That works in some Cocoa applications without special code. For example, in TextMate you can select text in the editor or a file in the file browser and get the expected thing from Current Selection. This is unlikely to work in an Electron app. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2CA352FB-689B-4D7B-8906-B944F1B90F0E%40skurfer.com.
Re: Crashes on new Macbook Pro 2021 with Monteray
On 7 Nov 2021, at 23:48, butteryak wrote: Looks to be not working for some reason, updated to latest version. Icon bounces then it crashes. Hopefully there is a fix, Love my quicksilver, been using it for quite some time. my mac just isn't the same without it++ I would take a look at the suggestions in the [FAQ](https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/8948B2EE-FF36-4DEB-9D5D-92C4D6B892D8%40skurfer.com.
Re: Results Header Color
On 1 Nov 2021, at 0:24, Jason H wrote: I cannot change the color of the Result Header. Not matter what color I choose I end up with a Black Bar with a Blue line through it. I can change the color of the font, but not the color of the bar itself. There’s a [discussion of this on GitHub][1], but no real solution. I know I’ve seen it, but rarely and inconsistently. I might be running a build created from a newer version of Xcode, though. I can’t remember. We can try flattening the UI in the next release. The blue seems to come from misrendering of some gradient. [1]: https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/issues/2537 -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/AC6A4E45-8374-4342-B776-4F51087133A6%40skurfer.com.
Re: Missing Safari bookmarks
On 1 Nov 2021, at 23:56, Fritz Lang wrote: QS v1.61 with Big Sur. I have the Safari plug in turned on, and the bookmarks checked. What am I missing? It’s probably an access issue. See [Catalog entries are missing on Mojave or later](https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/#catalog-entries-are-missing-on-mojave-or-later) in the FAQ. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/B9830753-F2AF-4DD7-8462-4E1ACCEF1675%40skurfer.com.
Re: Quicksilver 1.6.1 freezes instantly when invoked via shortcut (High Sierra)
On 21 Oct 2021, at 5:17, S Kp wrote: Since a couple of days I can't rely on Quicksilver opening when hitting "^Space" ... From time to time it freezes immediately after invoking the search window. Didn't find a repeatable circumstance when it occurs. It then can't be opened via menu bar icon and has to be closed by force via apple menu. Afterwards it seems to be fine. But crashes / freezes again another time. Hadn't had this in the past. Hmm. Try quitting QS and deleting everything in these folders * `~/Library/Caches/Quicksilver` * `/Users/rob/Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/Shelves` Then start it up again. There are some other ideas [in the FAQ](https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/#quicksilver-crashes). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/97E56120-F4DF-4510-B9E7-05003AA021D9%40skurfer.com.
Re: Slash search in folder polling entire Catalog
On 14 Oct 2021, at 10:58, Jason H wrote: > Recently when I slash into a folder and search I get results from the > entire catalog instead of just the folder I slashed into. > > E.g. I launch Quicksilver, type "Education", slash into folder "Education", > then type "Bio 101". Instead of just pulling results for in the "Education" > folder I'm given results for the entire catalog just as if I hadn't slashed > into the "Education" folder. > > Any suggestions? https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/#quicksilver-always-searches-the-entire-catalog I love the easy ones. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/924C9200-C1AD-497C-AF43-252E7C512E12%40skurfer.com.
Re: Clipboard Hide after pasting on Big Sur
On 15 Sep 2021, at 17:23, David Bayer wrote: I'm using Quicksilver 1.6.1 on macOS Big Sur. Since upgrading to Big Sur I keep running into problems where the clipboard window will not close after pasting even though that option is enabled in settings. I have been able to fix it in the past by reinstalling Quicksilver, but since the 11.5 upgrade that doesn't seem to work for me any more. I never had this problem prior to Big Sur, so I assume it has something to do with security updates in the OS. Any suggestions for how to fix it? I haven’t seen this behavior, but maybe we don’t use it the same way. How are you pasting? By hitting a number? Double-clicking the thing? Do you open the window as needed, or do you have it docked to the edge of the screen? -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/7E5CE6BD-CD50-4CA6-9CD8-8DB8957FA083%40skurfer.com.
Re: Triggering Network Access on Big Sur
On 2 Sep 2021, at 10:01, David Pomicter wrote: I have noticed on Big Sur that the only way to grant network permissions is to attempt to use the application that needs it and hope that a pop up appears to grant it. Does anyone know how to forcefully setup quicksilver to have access to network locations? My Use Case: I currently use quick silver key bindings to Run applescript that calls out to network drives. Since upgrading to Big Sur, these script return Apple Event Time Outs at the line where it is connecting to a network drive. I was able to force the system security permissions on scrip editor and run the script there with success - which is leading me to believe its a permissions issue with Quicksilver and Big Sur. I’m not sure in that case if it’s Quicksilver that needs access, or the script. I use QS to access a network folder directly all the time and I don’t remember it asking, so that’s probably covered by giving QS Full Disk Access. Can you add the script to different categories in the Security & Privacy prefs? If not, maybe if you save the script as an application, it will let you? You could also try resetting all the prompts with `tccutil reset AppleEvents` in Terminal, but that will require you to re-approve a bunch of activity. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/391466FF-5315-4F10-A53D-6163CBE53A27%40skurfer.com.
Re: Prepending text to entry in Mac Notes.app using QS trigger
On 14 Aug 2021, at 14:03, alex...@gmail.com wrote: But since I'll no longer be working with plain text files I won't be able to use the basic prepend text functionality in Quicksilver anymore. Any ideas about how I can quickly prepend text to a Notes.app note using a Quicksilver trigger? If you can figure out how to do it via AppleScript, you can create a custom QS action that takes the text as input. See [the wiki](https://qsapp.com/wiki/AppleScripts) for examples. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/26AFB8FD-B73D-45F0-A9E6-8EDECB35B8A9%40skurfer.com.
Re: does quicksilver run natively on the new M1 Macs on Apple Silicon?
On 3 Jul 2021, at 15:46, Darryl wrote: As has been my custom for years, I installed Quicksilver on my new 13" MacBook Air and was disappointed to see this message after extracting Quicksilver from the .dmg file and also installing Rosetta. That’s about code signing, not the M1 transition. If you right-click Quicksilver and choose “Open” once, it’ll launch normally after that. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/4B028F76-D116-47E1-8AC5-73DC45D6BFA1%40skurfer.com.
Re: Can't
On 28 Jun 2021, at 13:52, alex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, sorry if this has been addressed already, but I recently (foolishly?) 'upgraded' macOS Mojave to Catalina, and I can no longer access the 'Open Recent' menu of an app by finding the app in Quicksilver and pressing the 'right' arrow button. Any suggestions about how to restore this functionality would be appreciated. That tends to break with each OS release, but has been fixed for Catalina and Big Sur, so make sure you’re running the latest version of Quicksilver (1.6.1). You should also go to System Preferences → Security & Privacy → Privacy then make sure Quicksilver is listed under Accessibility and Full Disk Access. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2EBFFF2F-5442-4205-AAA3-F1F8FCC0C73C%40skurfer.com.
Re: Clipboard "Paste on Selection" not working in MacOS 11.4
On 24 Jun 2021, at 14:53, Jim Shank wrote: > Thanks Rob for confirming that it's working. Are you on MacOS 11.4 as well? > I have the most updated version of both, appreciate the version numbers. Yes, I’m on 11.4 and I have the clipboard window docked to a screen edge. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/FEC8EFFF-158D-495F-9AC8-A4E8DFC690EA%40skurfer.com.
Re: Clipboard "Paste on Selection" not working in MacOS 11.4
On 23 Jun 2021, at 11:29, Jim Shank wrote: When using the Clipboard history to paste, selecting an item using the number will load the item into the clipboard but not actually paste it until you paste via the OS again. Is anyone else experiencing this? Any workaround? I hear an alert sound after it pastes, but it appears to work as expected. Make sure you have the latest version of Quicksilver (1.6.1) and the Clipboard plug-in (1.6.2). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/03A4BA5C-7D20-4254-A5BE-AD2B8E235AC2%40skurfer.com.
Re: Relaunch not showing as an option
On 15 Jun 2021, at 13:30, Gloria Lassich wrote: It's an app that's always running (Keyboard Maestro Engine) & it still doesn't work, even in the main interface. You don’t necessarily need to select _that_ app in the main interface. Any running app should work. (Preferably one that runs in the foreground with a Dock icon.) The goal is just to get the “Relaunch” action to appear so you can copy it. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/4BA5A92F-0A16-4CB1-9841-FD0D4507A02C%40skurfer.com.
Re: Relaunch not showing as an option
On 14 Jun 2021, at 13:40, Gloria Lassich wrote: Actually, I do have it enabled. It's already in use in another trigger. I just can't get it to show up in the 2nd pane for this trigger for some reason. Oh, “Relaunch” only appears for apps that are currently running. Maybe it’s not running, or QS can’t tell for some reason. You can do this: 1. Select a running app in the main interface 2. Select “Relaunch” in the second pane 3. Right-click “Relaunch” and copy it 4. Go back to the trigger and in the second pane, paste the action with ⌘V -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/08DDD352-093E-43BB-B0CA-CFF8BB85471E%40skurfer.com.
Re: Relaunch not showing as an option
On 12 Jun 2021, at 21:25, Gloria Lassich wrote: I'm trying to set up a relaunch trigger for a specific application, but relaunch isn't showing up at all as an option in the 2nd pane. Help! It probably isn’t enabled by default. Go to Preferences → General → Actions and check the box next to “Relaunch”. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/60D74DC5-8C2E-4AB5-951E-7DB6696AF784%40skurfer.com.
Re: Updates to iPhotos & iTunes Plugins
On 12 Jun 2021, at 21:12, Gloria Lassich wrote: When will the iPhotos & iTunes plugins be updated to work with Photos & Music? The difficulties with the Music plug-in are discussed [on GitHub][1]. Basically, it needs to be updated to get data from the iTunes DB, but that requires a signed app and code signing has been broken for a long time now. I don’t have any plans to work on a Photos plug-in myself, but someone else might. [1]: https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/issues/2495 -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/D5107022-1F42-4215-8C72-339822B33369%40skurfer.com.
Re: Swift in Quicksilver?
On 31 May 2021, at 15:25, Nathan Henrie wrote: > Would there be issues with using some Swift code in Quicksilver? > > It seems like it can integrate fairly seamlessly with existing ObjC > codebases, and it seems a lot easier to pick up and use, but was wondering > if anyone could foresee roadblocks with regards to practicality or other > objections that might arise. I have no objections. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/BD044A5F-5BC1-46B9-A74C-15864B892DF2%40skurfer.com.
Re: Shelf
On 10 May 2021, at 19:50, Fred Weiner wrote: Is there a way to show the clipboard by default, but not the shelf? I can't find a way to do this though I remember it being possible at one time, I think. Can you explain what you mean by “show”? They use the same UI, but the Clipboard History and Shelf are two different things. I’m not even sure how you would show them both, except to manually open each one at a time. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/A9B08E01-D24D-4AD1-8594-3B422285DB81%40skurfer.com.
Re: 'Exclude types' is not per source?
On 28 Apr 2021, at 10:35, Peter Frings wrote: I have a few custom 'Sources' in the catalog. In some sources I need to exclude some types of files and in other sources I need to exclude other types (and they might need to include types that are excluded in the other source). E..g, in the folders where the LaTeX files live, I don't want to see .xml files (byproduct of the make process), but I want to see .XML files in other folders. However, it seems that the 'Exclude types' lists is common to all sources? If I add an exclusion in one source, it also appears in all other sources. The UI suggests that you can have exclusions per source, just like you can have a depth per source. So whatever it is, there an issue here. Or the UI is not OK, or there's a bug in the per-source exclusions... It’s definitely supposed to be a per-entry setting. If I look in the `Catalog.plist`, everything appears to be correct. The same is true for what actually gets included (which you can see in the Contents tab). So it appears to be a bug in how the UI displays the types. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/4450DD0B-C6B6-44C7-8241-FD5F26E53FCA%40skurfer.com.
Re: Quicksilver no longer quick
On 26 Apr 2021, at 14:44, d.andrew STEWART wrote: Has anyone experienced slow performance over the last several months? I haven't done a deep dive, yet, but I assume the slow performance coincides with one of my past macOS updates. By slow performance, I mean Quicksilver is no longer responding quickly to key entry and results take longer to appear. The search results are always accurate, but time is required for the Quicksilver interface to present you with the results. I haven’t noticed any difference in speed. My best guess is that your catalog had a large amount of new stuff added to it somehow. I would go through the Catalog in Preferences and look for entries with large numbers (more then 300 or 400). -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/EF011DFD-476D-48AE-BAB6-A78034EB8D67%40skurfer.com.
Re: Big Sur
On 19 Apr 2021, at 16:58, dennis@gmail.com wrote: Is there a beta I can grab? This blue is really killing my eyes. I would try different interfaces or different colors/settings in the Appearance prefs. I don’t see any blue using Nostromo, but I think some of this might be explained by hardware differences, so maybe that’s why. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1BEF81EF-8CED-451F-A543-D624B653B963%40skurfer.com.
Re: Delete from catalog
On 17 Apr 2021, at 14:30, Fritz Lang wrote: I have a few URLs in Safari bookmarks that are no longer useable. When I activate QS and they show up, I tab to the 2ndary field and hope to Delete from there. Delete doesn’t show up even though it is checked in QS/Actions/Core. Nor does “Get file URL”. Or am I thinking this wrong? Those actions only work on files, not items in the QS catalog. Or is there no way to delete an item from the QS catalog/plist without editing the QS plist? Rescanning that preset from the prefs should work (you can find it with “Show Source in Catalog”), but things can stick around if they make their way into recent objects, etc. I would just delete the caches in `~/Library/Caches/Quicksilver` and restart. -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/1A1E2DE4-561A-4C94-9B6C-6F6B9B0063E3%40skurfer.com.
Re: How do I use clipboard text for keyword search
On 18 Mar 2021, at 12:41, ka-foo wrote: I am using keyword search on some sites using the "Search For" action. Almost all the time the text I want to search is in the clipboard. How can I make quicksilver do the search with the text from the clipboard? I can type the text but since it's already in the clipboard, I'd rather not type. There are several things to know that might make this easier. First, Quicksilver uses the system’s Find Pasteboard, so whatever you search for in other (correctly written) applications will automatically show up as the search term in Quicksilver. This also means that when you select text, you can hit ⌘C to put it on the regular pasteboard, but you can also hit ⌘E to put it on the Find Pasteboard. If you do that, the term will automatically be there the next time you use the **Search For…** action. There are tons of options for when you already have something in the regular pasteboard, though. The most obvious is just to hit ⌘V in the 3rd pane when using **Search For…**. If you have the Spacebar behavior preference set to “Smart” (recommended) or “Jump to Argument Field”, you can just select a search engine in the first pane, then hit Space to jump to the third. To search for the current clipboard contents using DuckDuckGo, I just have to type G Space ⌘V ↩ You should also be aware that the **Search For…** action is reversible. Instead of `Search Engine ⇥ Search For… ⇥ term` you can do `term ⇥ Find With… ⇥ Search Engine`. So, you could call up Quicksilver, hit ⌘V to put the text in the first pane, then select the **Find With…** action. The search engines are sorted by how often you use them, so your favorite should be the default. Finally, if you do this regularly, you could just create a trigger for `Clipboard Contents ⇥ Find With… ⇥ Search Engine`. (This will be a little tricky since the **Find With…** action won’t appear for the Clipboard Contents item. Just enter some text in the 1st pane, select **Find With…** in the 2nd pane and copy it with ⌘C. Then, go create the trigger by putting Clipboard Contents in the 1st pane, go to the 2nd pane and paste the action with ⌘V, then select a search engine in the third pane.) -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/C7B711C7-019A-48BF-9578-E1376772714F%40skurfer.com.
Re: QS verisons and mnemonic plist
On 16 Mar 2021, at 16:05, metropical wrote: missing from catalog but available in mnemonics. Oh, then it has nothing to do with replacing the Mnemonics.plist. Make sure QS has Full Disk Access. https://qsapp.com/manual/FAQ/#catalog-entries-are-missing-on-mojave-or-later -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/2F19E9B2-B084-4014-9DA6-B76FA17E62BF%40skurfer.com.
Re: QS verisons and mnemonic plist
On 15 Mar 2021, at 23:03, metropical wrote: seems like Safari bookmarks are the biggest fail. Both versions of QS have the same version of the Safari plug, 2.4.2. Are the bookmarks in the catalog and just not searchable by what you expect, or are they missing from the catalog? -- Rob McBroom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blacktree-quicksilver+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/blacktree-quicksilver/57859EC3-A05B-4B8A-955C-130370F384F0%40skurfer.com.