On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 10:20:53AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
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> Attempted to clarify things in r6143. Archaic, would you let me know
> if it seems clearer to you now?
I'll just re-review the page. Some of this is not relevant to your
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The .desktop file for xine-ui installs in
/usr/share/xine/desktop/xine.desktop and also lacks the following line:
Categories=AudioVideo;
I will start looking at the Makefile to see if this can be fixed during
the build.
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nges to udev to support the
distinction between the role of the device (whether it require BLFS or
not to be usable). So I guess I said it wrong in that it should be
removed now, but only commented out as it will make a comeback in SVN
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tshapes.h
/usr/lib/libglut.so
/usr/lib/libglut.so.3
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On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:25:03AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote:
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> Looks like the devices are handled in 25-lfs.rules now...including
> ownership by the audio group. Shouldn't that become simply:
That is a left over that will be removed after 6.2.
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/usr. Please grab the latest bootscript package referenced in the LFS
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x27;t use broadband, it will break. For people who use broadband but for
some reason aren't connected or their connection is dead, this will
break. Considering all of the above, I think a monthly cronjob is the
best solution if someone wants to automate this task.
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- libjpeg 6 or above
- libstartup-notification 0.4 or above
- pcre 6.0 or above
That's a lot of 'ifs'. :/
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broken because I had the static library installed. Is
> anyone else seeing this behavior?
Yes, but my video card can't use drm so I never noticed.
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> As for the "after Kochi" placement, it's a hack. The real intention for the
> LiveCD is "before any other Chinese fonts".
Hack it may be, but unless upstream changes the order of fonts in
fonts.conf, then it's a legitimate configuration ste
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:05:59AM -0600, Archaic wrote:
> The font configuration section of xorg shows a sed that clobbers
> Bitstream Vera fonts. While DejaVu is clearly preferred, do we want to
> remove the references to Bitstream?
>
> I've been playing around with sed a
er than me (assuming the results are even desired).
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rst post and then
tell me where I suggested removing educational value versus showing an
alternate way of doing the same thing.
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r/include/{nss,nspr} &&
install -v -m644 {public,private}/nss/* /usr/include/nss &&
cp -v -RL $NSS_LINUXDIR/include/* /usr/include/nspr &&
chmod -v 644 /usr/include/nspr/prvrsion.h
---> export PATH=$OLDPATH &&
---> unset WORKINGDIR BUILD_OPT NSS_LINUXDIR
The Xft note will need to be reworded with Xorg7 now in the book.
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e in case other editors also like to unwrap
lines where possible.
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Book says:
programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnx_agp.c
When it should say:
hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnx_agp.c
I'm guessing the former was a CnP from the monolithic page?
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Just curious why the -n switch is used in the symlinking of the TTF
font directories? That is the default behavior.
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already had nss. Never did get it to work, but the last time I tried was
around gaim-1.0 times.
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th someone not knowing what gnutls consisted of they could easily
think that it was a dep for gaim independent of the other 3 packages
because they aren't parenthesized.
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"Finally, build the three remaining packages with the standard build
commands:"
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$ cat util.wget
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imake-1.0.1.tar.bz2
lndir-1.0.1.tar.bz2
makedepend-1.0.0.tar.bz2
util-macros-1.0.1.tar.bz2
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Maybe we should just add gnutls to the book. ;)
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shows libtasn1,
which technically isn't needed because libtasn1 (and opencdk, for that
matter) are included in the gnutls tarball.
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Is there a policy on sed's '-e' switch when only one sed script is being
used?
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NFS lists tcpwrappers as an optional dep, but it is required for
portmap. I'm not sure what the policy is for this since it can actively
use tcpwrappers itself.
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On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 08:20:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
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> Your comment about gaim is ambiguous. Move it where? What does "If you
> move it" mean?
Sorry. If you "place" xchat anywhere else, gaim should move with it.
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creating a new section or putting them all in an
extant non-X-specific section.
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> Networking, Chapter 18, Basic Networking Programs.
37. Other X-based Internet Programs
* Thunderbird-1.5.0.2
* Pan-0.14.2
* Balsa-2.3.12
* Gaim-1.5.0
If you move it, gaim should be moved.
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do, the test is telling you it "ain't gonna work right". If you are using
simple ASCII, you likely will never encounter any problems. That doesn't
mean your install is good, it just means you aren't exercising the broken
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> these test suite failures. It has been years.
You just never entered data in a form that was similar to the test case
that failed. If you had, you would have corrupted data, pure and simple.
However, one cannot assume how a reader my use mysqld. Non-ASCII,
extensive data comp
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 06:30:28PM -0600, Archaic wrote:
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> Your results do not match mine from 4 different lfs-svn boxes of varying
> age
In fact, if you copied and pasted, it shouldn't have even gotten through
configure. The book has:
C_EXTRA_FLAGS=fno-strict-aliasing
live tests of
mysqld as it is running. If they fail the daemon isn't fit to install.
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rrent LFS default. No
need for /dev/usbdev?.? when you can have the real node named properly
in the first place.
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gt; issue I raised.
I'd rather see an example rule in the book, and then text showing the
person how to retrieve the VendorID. That way we don't install a
thousand udev rules.
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consolidates the (not quite)
identical configuration into one page. Makes sense to me.
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st, not in the same form as now.
> Actually, so are the controlC[0-9]* nodes. So, you could drop the
> NAME="snd/%k" part, too.
Yes, NAME would be safe to drop.
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inted out by Alexander is that people don't do
> it.
If someone chooses not to do it, that is their problem. I'm sure there
are many who would appreciate such notes.
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install and config and started, added a user, logged out.
I did not time nor size the build. There is no valid SBU for this test
server.
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t won't. I'm assuming nothing needs to be done for the
former and it just works? As for the latter, do they all require
replacing an existing font family like the dejavu example shows?
The usernotes link is way down on the page.
That's all the help this layman can provide. I'm stil
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:45:59AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
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> Cool. The details can get blurry, but I'd like to see the patch.
> Only my proxy user has a cleartext stored password in the LDAP
> database. It'd be nice to hash that password.
I'll send you the
nless the ISP is really adamant about knowing about the user
beyond the modem.
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roblem.
Agreed. MAC-based authentication would do the same thing. But then, you
have to call the ISP (or they force you to a site via a proxy) anytime
you change MAC addresses so that you can be verified.
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> If no one is against this, I will add ed to the required dependencies of Xorg.
Aaak! Wouldn't a sed to use sed be preferred? Why anyone is still
relying on ed is beyond me.
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re is a patch to make SASL
understand md5 and sha1 hashed passwords. Even though it's TLS
encryptedm and sql tables are pw-protected, I didn't want the passwords
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> macro. UTF-8 support isn't possible without it.
Another mystery solved! :)
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Aspell provides a wrapper for ispell-like invocation. Is there any known
failure in this wrapper? If not, is there a reason to keep ispell in the
book?
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ers ncurses or
ncursesw, then the -with-screen=ncursesw may be redundant. That's all I
have for questions that are on-topic for this thread, but it did raise a
question I'll post about in a minute. :)
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I'm not a programmer, so I cannot confirm or deny this guy's concern. I
really only provide this link in curiosity if this may be related to the
mysql testsuite failures.
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/431184/30/0/threaded
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> obsolete?
You have a really odd concept of obsolete. You should get a job at
Redhat where their motto is "We leave the bleeding to you." :)
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ough assumably only on a
system that actually has more than one {n,m}ail{,x} binary, which BLFS
does not. I admit I didn't look close, so this is just a note for
whoever has time to look into it.
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> So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote
woohoo! A landslide!! :D
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> sleep 0.3 didn't work on the second boot. I will keep increasing the
> value until I get 5 good boots.
0.4 worked 5 times.
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> sleep 0.3 worked (only tested on *one* boot)
sleep 0.3 didn't work on the second boot. I will keep increasing the
value until I get 5 good boots.
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> There appears to be a race condition in the new sshd bootscript. The
> first time I ran sshd it complained of /proc//oom_adj not existing. The
> second time it said /proc//oom_adj doesn't exist. Perhaps
> a slight sleep af
e use pidof or something. I'll test it
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> But how
> do you split up a nuclear power station?
With a jack hammer, of course! :)
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the files with the right ownership the first time. It also
doesn't interfere with the chowining of /srv/www. Whatcha think?
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> the Wiki links and at the same time I could update all the X depends
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>
> Does this sound acceptable?
Anything that keeps people from having to hunt down unknown-to-them
files for editing is a very big plus in my mind.
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> Anything more should be offered up by Archaic, as he is the resident
> security pundit, and if I recall correctly, is employed in a capacity
> of overseeing connectivity and mail issues for an ISP.
LOL. I don't
ally were just code improvements and not hacks.
However, I also must say that I build a very small subset of BLFS,
almost exclusively servers and their deps. I haven't built X or anything
printing or audio related since 6.1-preX days and I never build
Gnome/KDE.
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(if the nail link is kept in the book, that is).
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kip it regardless of what the book says. Oh well,
just trying to be technically accurate. ;)
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> Did you see my post yesterday?
I'm sure I did, but that never stopped me from forgetting before! :)
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ping the hideous -5 from
the version number.
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s the only way I can think of and this book should not cater
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Was looking at popt and wondered if following debian's versioning system
was a good thing or not. Also wondered about using a patch straight from
debian as opposed to making an lfs-style patch and calling it
fixes-1.patch. Any opinions?
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> Would you please post a diff to the current Makfile. Thanks.
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user, and indicate that he needs a
> driver, possibly from beyond BLFS.
Which is exactly what the wiki will be used for. Bruce is testing
madwifi as that is what he has. I'm sure he will be doing the initial
wiki write up as part of the addition to the book.
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updating to 1.3.0 from 1.2.x anyway, so that should make this choice a
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e of the tests fail.
And building against 4.3 is a viable method of testing. That or plowing
through diffs of the testsuites themselves between 1.2.3 and 1.3.0. With
mods being needed to support multiple db's side-by-side, I don't presume
to know which would be easier. Nor do I know which
duin and Belg
> without issues.
Can't speak for anduin as I'm not aware of it running any repos, nor do
I know the db version, but for belg it's a red herring as the db used is
4.1.x, so not sufficient for comparison when the test failures are db
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if you tried one of those ways cause I can't test as I don't have a 4.3
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, BDB is still needed to index the changes, so perhaps this is a
stopper afterall? Just out of curiosity, have you tried any db-4.3.x's?
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. I don't have the old xorg around anymore so
couldn't look.
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;t the files in /etc/X11 just symlinks in the old build system?
IIRC the files (or at least many of them) have always been in
/usr/lib/X11.
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place of generic utilities. If athkey works, great! But it should never
be in the book. Even if it works for other drivers, it requires
installing madwifi for people who don't have an atheros card.
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could use who-knows-what for a chipset (mine is Texas Instruments). IOW,
where would it stop? That is why I think driver setup should be a
function of the wiki solely and not the book.
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le can have the same model number of
cards but with totally different chipsets and methods of setting them up
things get exacerbating quickly. Kudos to you for daring to do this. :)
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Initial Package Version:
BLFS.
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e audit
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p but no
wifi access ;) ). I also came up with the above as the simplest method
and am using that in my scripts. Ultimately, though, this needs to be
sent upstream.
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