[blfs-dev] texlive

2011-12-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been looking at texlive and am trying to figure out how to proceed. The first thing to note is that upstream distribution links their binaries statically, at least as far as the texlive libraries go (there are two). There are a huge number of programs in the livetex distribution. I don't

Re: [blfs-dev] libtirpc better explanations/implementation

2011-12-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > On 12/03/2011 06:09 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > >> I had noticed functions up to des_crypt.c were removed in debian, >> and was attempting to merge their changes with yours by hand. > > Actually, removal of des_crypt.c is all that is required if we avoid > upstream's ridiculous pol

Re: [blfs-dev] texlive

2011-12-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > On 12/3/2011 8:20 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Option 1. Use the upstream installer but suggest the use /opt/texlive >> or some variant instead. >> >> Option 3. Use the upstream installer for a base installation and also >> build the executab

Re: [blfs-dev] libtirpc better explanations/implementation

2011-12-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > On 12/04/2011 04:25 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> DJ Lucas wrote: >>> On 12/03/2011 06:09 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: >>> >>>> I had noticed functions up to des_crypt.c were removed in debian, >>>> and was attempting to merge their c

Re: [blfs-dev] texlive

2011-12-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > On 12/3/2011 8:20 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Option 1. Use the upstream installer but suggest the use /opt/texlive >> or some variant instead. >> >> Option 3. Use the upstream installer for a base installation and also >> build the executab

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg update

2011-12-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > I just updated the wget files in SVN. Bruce, I think I recall you > mentioning this the other day. Are you wanting to do the update? If not, > I don't mind doing it, but I really do want somebody else to go through > it as I fear it is getting kind of stale. If you do it, I'll

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg update

2011-12-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > I've tidied that up a bit: > > sed -i 's#x)/docs#x)/share/doc#' Makefile.config.in > touch tools/edis/EnhancedDisassembly.exports > ./configure --prefix=/usr > find . -name Makefile -exec sed -i -e '/^LIBRARYNAME/a SHARED_LIBRARY = 1' \ > -e 's#^BUILD_ARCHIVE :*= 1#NO_BUI

[blfs-dev] Security Chapter

2011-12-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I'm starting to go through the book from the top and will do updates as I go. Right now I'm reviewing the security chapter. Many of the packages have been updated, but these are what are left: console kit Who uses this? Evidently KDE4 and gdm. Cyrus SASL I can build it but don't know h

Re: [blfs-dev] Security Chapter

2011-12-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Linux-PAM > No new sources on kernel.org. Is 1.1.3 still current? > Anybody know where more recent sources are located? Debian > shows 1.1.3 with 2Mb of changes, mostly docs. Arg. Just as I sent this, I found https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/lin

Re: [blfs-dev] Security Chapter

2011-12-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > On 12/5/2011 10:14 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Cyrus SASL >> I can build it but don't know how to test it. > > Has there been a version increment? Minor. 2.1.23 (2009) -> 2.1.25 (Sep 2011) It looks like they skipped 2.1.24. >> gpg

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9069 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib introduction/welcome x/installing

2011-12-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
d...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > Author: dj > Date: 2011-12-06 02:26:39 -0700 (Tue, 06 Dec 2011) > New Revision: 9069 > > Modified: >trunk/BOOK/general.ent >trunk/BOOK/general/genlib/libdrm.xml >trunk/BOOK/introduction/welcome/changelog.xml >trunk/BOOK/x/installing/installing.xml

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9069 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib introduction/welcome x/installing

2011-12-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > Whoops, I forgot. No problem. I can do the easy stuff. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > Hello, > > There are quite a few packages that I use every day that are not in > BLFS. I think it's a shame that they're not in the book so I've started > to knock up example pages that show what a BLFS page might look like > for them. The first 4 are: > > http://www.linuxf

[blfs-dev] pam and bdb

2011-12-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I'm working on pam and I'm getting undefined references to __db_ndbm_{open,fetch,close} etc. I can get around this with telling configure --enable-db=no. In the configure log, I have: checking for db_create... yes checking db.h usability... yes checking db.h presence... yes checking for db.h..

Re: [blfs-dev] pam and bdb

2011-12-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > On 07/12/11 16:59, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I'm working on pam and I'm getting undefined references to >> __db_ndbm_{open,fetch,close} etc. >> >> I can get around this with telling configure --enable-db=no. In the >> configur

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Laurent Dard wrote: > Le 06/12/2011 20:12, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> Perhaps they should be in the book, but I'd like to put our emphasis on >> updating what's in the book right now. There are also things that we >> may want to remove, e.g. qt3/kde3 but I need

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Laurent Dard wrote: > With KDE4 in /opt/kde4 and Trinity in /opt/trinity, we have to put the > right directory at the beginning of the path when starting one of these > desktop. (Binary suffixes could be another solution, but that isn't the > choice made by Trinity Team.) And we have to find a way

Re: [blfs-dev] gtk+-3.2.2 and pango

2011-12-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:15:51 +1100 > Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > >> On 04/12/11 15:30, Ken Moffat wrote: >>> Impressive! Looks as if I might be putting pulse into this build, >>> now that I've got something to work from. What's stopping you >>> putting all this into the boo

Re: [blfs-dev] gtk+-3.2.2 and pango

2011-12-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > On 08/12/11 15:48, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> I don't have a problem with adding Gnome 3, but would like it in a >> completely separate section. We would not want to mix Gnome2 and Gnome3 >> packages. I agree with Andy that the pages

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Laurent Dard wrote: > Le 08/12/2011 05:42, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> There are two issues. Qt3 and qt4 have completely different libraries, >> but their build tools, moc and qmake, have the same names. The easy >> solution there is to put the desired executables first in

Re: [blfs-dev] llvm

2011-12-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > On 12/05/2011 06:37 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:38:28 -0600 >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> touch tools/edis/EnhancedDisassembly.exports >> ./configure --prefix=/usr >> find -name Makefile -exec\

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg update

2011-12-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
> On 12/05/2011 06:37 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: >> touch tools/edis/EnhancedDisassembly.exports >> ./configure --prefix=/usr >> find -name Makefile -exec\ >>sed -ir -e '/^LIBRARYNAME/a SHARED_LIBRARY = 1'\ >>-e 's#BUILD_ARCHIVE :*= 1#NO_&#'

[blfs-dev] libdrm and mesa

2011-12-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I noticed that libdrm-2.4.28 has been released, but it doesn't build with the current instructions: ./configure libdrm 2.4.28 will be compiled with: libkms yes Intel API yes vmwgfx API no Radeon API yes Nouveau APIno make make[3]: Entering directory `/us

Re: [blfs-dev] libdrm and mesa

2011-12-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 23:58:04 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Now on to Mesa-7.11.2. >> It fails in make. There are evidently incompatible changes in llvm 3.0. >> >> gallivm/lp_bld_debug.cpp:30:40: fatal error: >> llvm/Target/Ta

Re: [blfs-dev] libdrm and mesa

2011-12-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 23:58:04 -0600 >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> Now on to Mesa-7.11.2. >>> It fails in make. There are evidently incompatible changes in llvm 3.0. >>> >>> gallivm/lp_bld_debug.

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9089 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/graphlib introduction/welcome

2011-12-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > Author: ken > Date: 2011-12-10 15:45:12 -0700 (Sat, 10 Dec 2011) > New Revision: 9089 > > Modified: >trunk/BOOK/general.ent >trunk/BOOK/general/graphlib/gegl.xml >trunk/BOOK/introduction/welcome/changelog.xml > Log: > gegl-0.1.8 Change to lfs70_check

Re: [blfs-dev] poppler-0.18.2 / qt3

2011-12-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I was preparing to update poppler to 0.18.2 (gimp-2.6.11 needs a > patch, everything else I've built was ok with this version). But in > checking the deps against the old 0.14.4 in the book I see that qt3 > used to be supported. Well it ain't now. So, I won't touch this > un

Re: [blfs-dev] gimp

2011-12-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > Hello Ken, > Thanks for updating the gimp, it was on my todo list but I wanted to > update webkit first as the gimp uses it to view the help files. At > least, it does for me, however, I don't see webkit mentioned on the > gimp page as an optional dependency? Should I add it

[blfs-dev] Xorg

2011-12-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mostly for DJ, I finally finished going through Xorg. I always get a sense of satisfaction when bringing it up for the the first time on a new system. It's the same feeling when I start LFS for the first time after a major update. DRI and glxgears/glxinfo worked right off the bat. glxgears w

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg

2011-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:13:08 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Mostly for DJ, >> >> I finally finished going through Xorg. I always get a sense of >> satisfaction when bringing it up for the the first time on a new system. >> It'

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg

2011-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:13:08 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> BTW, I built in /opt/xorg. I like to do that so I can build another >> version of xorg without changing the current programs that would be the >> case if installing in /usr. >

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg

2011-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:24 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> What you do is have a symlink of /opt/xorg -> xorg-7.6-2, build with a >> different prefix and when ready to test, change the symlink. Works >> great for kde, qt, gnome, fop, a

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg

2011-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:04:10 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> I thought it's primary use was a benchmark. I can't ever remember >> running it at less than about 200 fps. > > http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchm

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg and nouveau notes

2011-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Todd Simpson wrote: > That's one of the things I did to get it working. I built libdrm-2.4.23 > with this configure option, I rebuilt the kernel (version 3.1.0) with > Nouveau as a module, and I built the nouveau driver module for X. As > Andrew Benton observed, the latter has to be downloaded w

Re: [blfs-dev] Install llvm by running the following commands resulted in an error.

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Forwarding to BLFS-dev sparklerc...@gmail.com wrote: > Dear bdubbs: > > BLFS Chapter 12. Programming > LLVM-3.0 > > Install llvm by running the following commands: > > sed -ir -e '/^LIBRARYNAME/a SHARED_LIBRARY = 1' \ > -e 's#BUILD_ARCHIVE :*= 1#NO_&#' \ > -e '/^USEDLIBS/s# ([A-Za-z]*).a# -l

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9100 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib general/genutils introduction/welcome x/lib

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:30:24 -0700 (MST) > bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > >> Author: bdubbs >> Date: 2011-12-11 22:30:20 -0700 (Sun, 11 Dec 2011) >> New Revision: 9100 >> >> Modified: >>trunk/BOOK/general.ent >>trunk/BOOK/general/genlib/libglade.xml >>trunk

Re: [blfs-dev] Install llvm by running the following commands resulted in an error.

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
sparklerc...@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Bruce: > > I don't know why the command resulted in an error: invalid reference \1 on `s' command's RHS > mm... maybe it's a bad idea to use -ir option and -e with the 'find' command ? > > In order to make sure sed command executable, > I try to remove -r op

Re: [blfs-dev] Install llvm by running the following commands resulted in an error.

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:08:58 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > \ >> sed -ir -e '/^LIBRARYNAME/a SHARED_LIBRARY = 1' \ >> -e 's#BUILD_ARCHIVE :*= 1#NO_&#' \ >>

Re: [blfs-dev] Install llvm by running the following commands resulted in an error.

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:16:39 + > Andrew Benton wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:34:42 -0600 >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> Then why is is working for me? Note 'sed -ir' >> Sorry, I hadn't noticed the -r >&g

Re: [blfs-dev] Install llvm by running the following commands resulted in an error.

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > I've figured it out in the bath. LOL. > The -i and the -r need to be separated. > This works without the brackets escaped: > > find -name Makefile -exec \ > sed -i -r -e '/^LIBRARYNAME/a SHARED_LIBRARY = 1'\ > -e

[blfs-dev] seamonkey

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I installed seamonkey according to the new instructions. Overall, noce job Andy. I have a couple of comments. First, the mozconfig is missing EOF. I'll fix that. Second, I think we used to install enigmail with seamonkey. Has anyone tried that? Third, I think it would be better to be more

Re: [blfs-dev] A problem with CA certificates

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > This should work... DJ, are you going to commit the change? Also, s/staring/starting/ in a comment. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Laurent Dard wrote: > Le 06/12/2011 20:12, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> Perhaps they should be in the book, but I'd like to put our emphasis on >> updating what's in the book right now. There are also things that we >> may want to remove, e.g. qt3/kde3 but I need

Re: [blfs-dev] A problem with CA certificates

2011-12-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> DJ Lucas wrote: >> >>> This should work... >> DJ, are you going to commit the change? >> > > I'm out for a few days. Just throwing up a quick suggested change > while I had a few seconds to lo

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Laurent Dard wrote: > Le 14/12/2011 04:26, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >>I'm investigating Trinity. To start I need the libpng-15 patch for >> qt3. Do you know where I can find it? > > I attach it. Thanks. > I posted it in this bug report: > http://bugs.pearsonc

[blfs-dev] Linux Foundation - Referenced Specifications

2011-12-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
FYI. There is a new page for basic references: http://refspecs.linuxbase.org/ -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] Packages for BLFS

2011-12-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Laurent Dard wrote: > Le 14/12/2011 09:26, Laurent Dard a écrit : >> Le 14/12/2011 04:26, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >>>I'm investigating Trinity. To start I need the libpng-15 patch for >>> qt3. Do you know where I can find it? >> I attach it. Thanks. I&

[blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne, In the D-BUS instructions, what does this mean? useradd -c "D-BUS Message Daemon User" -d /dev/null \ -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9 ] Accidental update from a script? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http:/

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > On 15/12/11 16:28, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Wayne, >> >>In the D-BUS instructions, what does this mean? >> >> useradd -c "D-BUS Message Daemon User" -d /dev/null \ >> -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false message

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:25:17 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Also, the construct is not explained. I think it should be removed. > > I agree it should be explained, then people can make an informed > choice. I don't mind that it's di

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I'm just starting to look at bumping dbus to 1.4.16, I'll > pick this up when I change it. > > As always, don't hold your breath waiting for me to do it :) We'll have to figure out how we want ot present this: wget http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus/dbus-1.4.16.tar.

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. The first LFS boot script, mountvirtfs, does: mkdir -p /run mount -n /run || failed=1 mkdir -p /run/{var,lock,shm} The /etc/sysconfig/rc.site is sourced s

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > On 12/15/2011 07:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away >> with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. >> >> The first LFS boot script, mountvirtfs, does: >>

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> I'm just starting to look at bumping dbus to 1.4.16, I'll >> pick this up when I change it. >> >> As always, don't hold your breath waiting for me to do it :) > > We'll have to

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:46:48 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> This is getting complicated. I can build and install dbus-1.4.16.tar.gz >> without noticing any problems. >> >> In order to run the tests, I need: >> >> D-Bus G

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 07:10:04PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away >> with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. > > Is that a theoretical problem, or is it ac

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9117 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib general/sysutils introduction/welcome x/lib

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:54:30PM -0700, bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: >> Author: bdubbs >> Date: 2011-12-16 12:54:18 -0700 (Fri, 16 Dec 2011) >> New Revision: 9117 >> >> Modified: >>trunk/BOOK/general.ent >>trunk/BOOK/general/genlib/gobject-introspection.xml >>

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9117 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib general/sysutils introduction/welcome x/lib

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:54:30PM -0700, bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org >> wrote: >>> Author: bdubbs >>> Date: 2011-12-16 12:54:18 -0700 (Fri, 16 Dec 2011) >>> New Revision: 9117 >>> >>> Modif

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:27:29 + > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> Ah, I see, you build dbus but not the bootscripts. AFAIK, the >> bootscript has been required for a long time. I see no obvious >> reason to add dbus-launch to .xinitrc. > > I also see no reason to add dbus-lau

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:03:42PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I suspect (but am not sure) that dbus is not very useful on a non-gui >> desktop or server. If that's the case, then launching via dbus-launch >> to .xinitrc makes sense. >> >

Re: [blfs-dev] pyGobject-3.0.3 and py2cairo-1.10.0

2011-12-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > Bruce, > pycairo-1.10.0 is actually depended on Python3 so should it not be > called py3cairo? The url is broken (should be bz2 rather than xz). I didn't intend to update pycairo, only py2cairo. I left it at version 1.8.8. The link works for me. The naming is not up t

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 > Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > >> My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, >> just to name a few) > > +1 for this. I install my gconf stuff --sysconfdir=/etc I agree. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9125 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/lib xsoft/graphweb

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 05:12:38PM +, Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:44:25 + >> Ken Moffat wrote: >> >>> Actually, I should rephrase the question - *how* do you get the >>> release tarball ? >> Sorry, I used the ftp link. I didn't realise the http link

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > On 12/20/2011 11:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Andrew Benton wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 >>> Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: >>> >>>> My preference is option 4) /etc (Something that Fedora and Ubuntu uses, >&g

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:59:31 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Doesn't --sysconfdir=/etc imply /etc/gnome? I thought the problem was >> moving it away from /usr/etc/gnome. > > It's /etc/gconf That's fine. -- Bruce -- ht

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > On 21/12/11 05:36, Randy McMurchy wrote: >> On 12/20/2011 11:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Andrew Benton wrote: >>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:10:48 +1100 >>>> Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: >>>> >>>>> M

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: > Just looking at my gnome 2.30.2 installation. You can also argue that > having /etc/gnome is not compliant because it has dbus in two locations > /etc/gnome/2.30.2/dbus-1 and /etc/dbus-1. Are they the same? In /etc/dbus-1 I have: session.conf session.d system.conf

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On my partial-gnome installation (apart from the gnome2 packages > previously mentioned, I built gcalctool, gucharmap, > epiphany{,-extensions}, gstreamer/plugins, totem, yelp from 3.2 - > plus their many required dependencies) I have the following > directories in /etc/gnome:

Re: [blfs-dev] legacy gnome2 packages:wq and gnome-etc-dir

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 05:50:31PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> My only concern is to keep something like the /etc directory at a >> reasonable number of entries. Right now I have 90. Compare that to >> ubuntu that has 217 or RHEL with 199. I think of

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome-3 : merge Wayne's book ? (long):wq

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I don't use gnome itself, but I have to build a lot of gnome packages > to get to the few parts I use (as well as abiword and gnumeric, I use > epiphany and epiphany-extensions, yelp, gcalctool, gucharmap). Until > this build I've used totem, but now that totem uses clutter it

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome-3 : extra-packages:wq

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I'll need to get a non-commitable > copy of the book without the svn stuff, Use: svn export svn://linuxfromscratch.org/BLFS/trunk/BOOK BLFS -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscrib

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome-3 : issues

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > 3. Gdb - Useful if you have to debug a program, but not part of > gnome. I've stopped building it, but arguably it should be in the > book. If you add this, it should be in Chapter 12, Programming. The packages there are in alpabetical order. Another package that's probabl

Re: [blfs-dev] libcap2 compilation problems

2011-12-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > /sbin/setcap cap_setfcap=i /sbin/setcap > Failed to set capabilities on file `/sbin/setcap' (Operation not supported) > usage: setcap [-q] [-v] (-r|-|) [ ... (-r|-|) > ] Hmm, I didn't have any problems. I think you need EXT3_FS_XATTR set in the kernel config, but I rea

Re: [blfs-dev] libcap2 compilation problems

2011-12-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Nathan Coulson wrote: >> >>> /sbin/setcap cap_setfcap=i /sbin/setcap >>> Failed to set capabilities on file `/sbin/setcap' (Operation not supported) >>> usage: setcap [-

Re: [blfs-dev] libcap2 compilation problems

2011-12-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 06:16:06PM -0800, Nathan Coulson wrote: >> make -C progs install >> make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/raid5/book/blfs/04/libcap-2.22/progs' >> mkdir -p -m 0755 /sbin >> for p in getpcaps capsh getcap setcap ; do \ >> install -m 0755 $p /sbin ; \ >> d

[blfs-dev] Iced Tea

2011-12-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Has anyone done Iced Tea with LFS 7? Personally, I try to stay away from Java, but some packages need it so I was going to install it. There do seem to be some updates from what we have in the book. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfroms

Re: [blfs-dev] libcap2 compilation problems

2011-12-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I must admit, it had slipped my mind once I got 7.0 > running, and I still don't grok why only some of us hit the problem. > But there's *so much* still to do :) Agree. I've been at it pretty solid ever since LFS 7.0 in late October. On one hand, I'm happy with the progres

Re: [blfs-dev] libcap2 compilation problems

2011-12-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 05:01:20PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> The largest part is, I think, Gnome. > > I do believe you are right - well over 200 packages > changed/added/moved (includes old packages moved to obsolete/). > Ever wish you hadn't

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9152 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome multimedia/libdriv multimedia/videoutils

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:35:30 -0700 (MST) > bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > > >> -./configure --prefix=/usr >> --docdir=/usr/share/doc/xine-lib-&xine-lib-version; && >> +./configure --prefix=/usr \ >> +--with-external-ffmpeg \ >> +--doc

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9152 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome multimedia/libdriv multimedia/videoutils

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > Looking at my build log, even though I didn't specify > --with-external-ffmpeg configure detected the installed ffmpeg and used > it: > checking for FFMPEG... yes > checking for FFMPEG_UTIL... yes > checking for FFMPEG_POSTPROC... yes > checking ffmpeg/avutil.h usability...

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome-3 : issues

2012-01-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
On Jan 2, 2012 8:52 PM, "Ken Moffat" wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 09:04:27PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 08:16:33PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > > And since I'm replying to myself, a question for Bruce and anyone > else building trinity - can trinity's kdegraph

Re: [blfs-dev] gnome-3 : issues

2012-01-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 09:05:08PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> On Jan 2, 2012 8:52 PM, "Ken Moffat" wrote: >>> And since I'm replying to myself, a question for Bruce and anyone >>> else building trinity - can trinity's kdegraph

Re: [blfs-dev] 2 issues in the book

2012-01-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > Hi, > > As we think it can help, the French translation team wishes to report > you 2 little issues in the book. > > The lest important is in the changelog. Since the reorganization of > changelog, the changes between 2011, January and March have disappeared > compl

[blfs-dev] libart_lgpl

2012-01-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
According to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155472#c4 libart_lgpl is no longer being maintained. The Trinity guys have taken it and made some corrections. A look at the book shows libart_lgpl is also used by libgnomeprint and libgnomecanvas. Is this use still relevant? Should I p

Re: [blfs-dev] libart_lgpl

2012-01-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 06:12:36PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> According to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155472#c4 >> libart_lgpl is no longer being maintained. The Trinity guys have taken >> it and made some corrections. >>

Re: [blfs-dev] one little comment about the book

2012-01-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: > Hi, > > As we think it can help, the French translation team wishes to report > you a little comment about the book. > > In the file libdbusmenuqt.xml, the lines 88 and 89 are repeated > immediately after. Fixed. Thanks. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mail

Re: [blfs-dev] Python-3.2.2/python-3.2.2-docs-html

2012-01-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: > It seem there is a misprint. > > sed -i -e 's/python-3.2-docs-html.tar.bz2/python-3.2.2-docs-html.tar.bz2/' The same problem in is Python2. Fixed. Thanks. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/bl

Re: [blfs-dev] one little mistake in the changelog.xml file

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: > Hi, > > As we think it can help, the French translation team wishes to report > you a little mistake in the changelog.xml file. > > it is written 2011 instead of 2012 in the modification dates. OK, fixed. Thanks. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listi

Re: [blfs-dev] Security LFS7.0

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: > $ uname -a > Linux VMWLFS70 3.2.0 #1 SMP Sun Jan 8 22:25:33 BRT 2012 i686 i686 i386 > GNU/Linux > > These packages were successfully installed: > > $ paco -dd openssl gnutls sudo Linux-PAM | sort > 07-Jan-2012 00:35 openssl-1.0.0f > 07-Jan-2012 20:55 gnutls-3.0.10

Re: [blfs-dev] Security LFS7.0

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: > --- Em seg, 9/1/12, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: >> actually current is >> >> gnutls-3.0.11.tar.xz > > I mentioned the packages becauseit was aked (I thought it was you) to > inform when upgrading with respect to the boo

Re: [blfs-dev] Security LFS7.0

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > Noting your $subject, you do realise that in blfs you are > responsible for your own security ? Your distro, your rules. Yes, but we don't intentionally put in things that are security issues. > For --enable-shared --disable-static : anything linked to this will > be lin

Re: [blfs-dev] Security LFS7.0

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I prefer to reduce my possible exposure. That's understandable. > After discovering > sysvinit wanted a static libgcrypt (I think - see my previous posts > on lfs-support in the thread about perl and libz) I did a search back to Feb 2009 on lfs-support (my history) but c

Re: [blfs-dev] Security LFS7.0

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:28:48PM -0800, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: >> I do care about security, so I should be worried abou that? Anyway, I will >> remove PAM (after your and Bruce's comments). >> > I can't resist misquoting Paul Vixie - if I can persuade you to > remove P

[blfs-dev] dracut, kvn, qemu

2012-01-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Has anyone done a kvm or qemu installation in LFS? Right now I'm working on dracut so I can put in instruction for an initramfs in the filesystems section of the book, but the testing wants either a kvm or qemu installation to run. I can back up and research these and put them in the book, but

Re: [blfs-dev] Cups-1.5.0: typo: bogus --with-docdir parameter

2012-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Henty wrote: > The configure command for Cups-1.5.0 has an argument > --with-docdir=/usr/share/doc/1.5.0 . Surely this should be > --with-docdir=/usr/share/doc/cups-1.5.0 ? Yes. The options also needed to be reformatted because they were running way beyond the right side of the screen.

Re: [blfs-dev] gtk+3 LastChangedBy: nobody

2012-01-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > Still creating individual diffs for the packages in Wayne's book. > At gtk+3 I noticed that the book is newer, so obviously I won't use > that diff, but both pages show > > Last updated on 2007-04-04 20:42:53 +0100 > > I'm guessing the page was copied from a different page a

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils

2012-01-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: > Not any time to proofread this, but this is what I use > > echo > /etc/qemu-ifup << "EOF" > ip addr add 0.0.0.0 dev $1 > ip link set $1 up > brctl addif br0 $1 > EOF Nathan, this is exactly what I need. In the above, do you need brctl addbr br0 or is qemu supposed t

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #1554: lm_sensors

2012-01-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:32:39 - > "BLFS Trac" wrote: > >> #1554: lm_sensors >> -+-- >> Reporter: bdubbs@… |Owner: blfs-book@… >> >> Type:

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils

2012-01-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: >> When I run the following on the host >> >> brctl addbr br0 >> ip addr add 0.0.0.0 dev br0 >> ip link set br0 up >> brctl addif br0 eth0 >> >> That last command kills my normal eth0 connection. I had to reboot to >> get it back. > > br0, should act like a hardware

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils

2012-01-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Qrux wrote: > I'm also not a bridging expert, but Nathan's explanation sounds very > reasonable: saying "br0 becomes a switch" is a good analogy with a > nice visual image. I don't know the specifics of what's happening in > the kernel, but when you form a bridge, the original hardware > interfac

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