Re: [blfs-support] LFS-7.5 is released

2014-03-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 3/2/2014 4:31 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of
 LFS Version 7.5.
 [snip]

I would like to say that it pleases me that the LFS community is as
active as it is, and congratulations on another release of this fine
product. LFS is as active as it ever has been, and I've been part of
the community for 10+ years.

Thanks to everyone involved that is making all these good things
happen, and a special shout-out to Armin who almost single-handedly
kept the systemd branch active and current. Though I do not contribute
very much any more, I just want to say how much I appreciate everyone's
effort.

It is amazing to see this community thriving after all these years.
Way to go everyone!

Best Regards,
Randy

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Re: [blfs-support] JS-17.0.0 and libreadline-6.2

2014-01-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/6/2014 9:49 AM, Pierre M.R. wrote:

 The output of js/src/configure .. --enable-readline shows:

 configure: error: No system readline library found.

My configure log shows:

checking for readline in -lreadline... yes

This is on a pure LFS-7.4 system using mozjs-17.0.0


 config.log shows:
 configure:14764: gcc -o conftest -ffunction-section -fdata-sections
 -pthread -pipe -lphread conftest.c -lreadline -dl 15
 ()../../libreadline.so: undefined reference to 'tputs'
 ()../../libreadline.so: undefined reference to 'tgoto'
 ()../../libreadline.so: undefined reference to 'tgetflag'
 ()../../libreadline.so: undefined reference to 'UP'
 ...

 It's reproductible on my machine.

My config log shows:

configure:14745: checking for readline in -lreadline
configure:14764: gcc -o conftest  -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -pthread 
-pipe  -lpthread  conftest.c -lreadline  -ldl  15

 From the errors you are seeing it appears that there is something
wrong with your ncurses installation. This is just a guess but I
have no issues installing, nor does Fernando. This to me points to
something broken on your system.

Could you check that the ncurses libraries were properly moved
and recreated during the LFS install?

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Re: [blfs-support] Destdir installation question

2014-01-04 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/4/2014 5:36 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:
   Oh, and if anyone ever wants to do similar with glibc, ISTR the
 variable it uses is INSTALLROOT without an underscore.

Actually it is 'install_root' (all lowercase) for GLibc. Works for me.

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Re: [blfs-support] About audacious-plugins-3.3.3-libcdio_v0.90_fixes-1.patch

2013-03-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thanos Baloukas wrote these words on 03/03/13 02:18 CST:
 On 03/03/2013 02:14 AM, Thanos Baloukas wrote:
 Hi

 IIRC, the last time I installed audacious-plugins-3.3.3, the dependency
 on libcdio-0.83
 was enough for audacious to be able to play music CDs. Now on another
 system with libcdio-0.90, configure reported that the cdaudio-ng plugin
 would not be built because I lacked libcdio_cdda 0.70 or newer. After a
 research I found that I had to install
 libcdio-paranoia-10.2+0.90 which split from libcdio, if I got it right.
 I installed it,
 applied the patch, and make failed on src/cdaudio-ng/cdaudio-ng.c
 because it couldn't find 'cdio/paranoia/cdda.h'. On my system this file
 was installed
 from libcdio-paranoia-10.2+0.90 in /usr/include/cdio and not in
 /usr/include/cdio/paranoia. Looking at the patch I saw that it had:

I believe it was me who introduced the patch. And I may have goofed because
I recall symlinking the paranoia headers before/after creating the patch. I
cannot recall the exact specifics, but I will revisit the instructions and
make it right.

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Re: [blfs-support] Xulrunner-18.0.1 installed files ownership

2013-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
CC'd to BLFS-Dev

On 2/24/2013 2:39 PM, Thanos Baloukas wrote:
 Hi

 I installed Xulrunner-18.0.1/Firefox-18.0.1 today.
 Xulrunner installed most directories and files under
 unprivileged user's ownership. If no one else has noticed that,
 then I must have done something wrong.

You did nothing wrong. I just installed xulrunner (using the
firefox-19.0 tarball) to DESTDIR and I see the same thing:

root@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/mozilla-release  find destdir ! -user root|wc -l
3983
root@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/mozilla-release  find destdir|wc -l
4010

I will include commands to change ownership to root:root when I
update the book to the 19.0 version.

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Re: [blfs-support] Xulrunner-18.0.1 installed files ownership

2013-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 2/24/2013 4:51 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:39:49PM +0200, Thanos Baloukas wrote:
 Hi

 I installed Xulrunner-18.0.1/Firefox-18.0.1 today.
 Xulrunner installed most directories and files under
 unprivileged user's ownership. If no one else has noticed that,
 then I must have done something wrong.

   I would expect the ownership to be whoever installed them, and also
 that an unprivileged user would NOT be able to write to them.  I'm
 not at my desktop at the moment.

Not the case here. root user installs them with permissions of the user
that built the package (i.e., the Firefox package installation is
broken at the upstream level).


   Personally, I don't have any belief that sudo is useful for an LFS
 user.  For someone maintaining a production system, with strong
 restrictions on what they can do, yes there is a use for it.  But
 having tried it while I was reworking my own buildscripts, it's too
 easy to change it so that your user can do anything, and to allow
 that with only a password on the first use during the current
 session.

We sure do have opposing opinions on that one, Ken. :-) I use sudo in
my scripts so that I am certain that nothing gets installed in /usr
unless I know about it. I always install a package as an unprivileged
user to DESTDIR if I am unfamiliar with it before doing it for real by
the root user. sudo works great for me.

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Re: [blfs-support] Updated compressdoc to include xz support

2013-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/23/13 19:38 CST:
 Armin, Randy, Ken, what do you think?

I do not use it. Perhaps some folks do, though. Can't hurt to update it with
Williams patch and keep it in the book. Bottom line is I really don't care
either way.

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Re: [blfs-support] Updated compressdoc to include xz support

2013-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
William Harrington wrote these words on 02/23/13 21:37 CST:
 This is a rough draft but any input is greatly appreciated to fix any
 errors.
 
 In which none have fixed errors if they are there, only attacked the  
 issue that the script has been updated. If I wanted to fix the book  
 I'd post to blfs-dev.

Hopefully, you didn't construe my comments as an attack. I simply do not
have any need for the compressdoc script. I can't offer any input as to
fix any errors, as I do not use it, nor have the desire to test it. As
I mentioned, I really do not care which we we go, but I do believe you
have a legitimate point about adding the LZMA compression if it is kept
in the book.

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[blfs-support] More about stripping

2013-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all,

Here's an FYI for those that were talking about stripping binaries:

root@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/inkscape-0.48.4  ls -l /usr/bin/ink*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142135802 Feb  9 08:05 /usr/bin/inkscape
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 139710678 Feb  9 08:05 /usr/bin/inkview

root@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/inkscape-0.48.4  strip --strip-all 
/usr/bin/ink{scape,view}

root@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/inkscape-0.48.4  ls -l /usr/bin/ink*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12030636 Feb  9 08:12 /usr/bin/inkscape
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10055180 Feb  9 08:12 /usr/bin/inkview

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Re: [blfs-support] Speech Dispatcher in BLFS?

2013-02-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
alex lupu wrote these words on 02/01/13 19:43 CST:
 Randy McMurchy wrote
 I couldn't care less about the Chrome browser
 
 Hi Randy:
 
 You'll live to regret these reckless words.  Soon :)

Sigh... regret...reckless (isn't that a bit, um, presumptuous)?


 I have personal reasons for wanting to help sight-impaired people.
 
 That's a very noble act.  Speaking of that, my understanding is that's why
 Klaus put together A.D.R.I.A.N.E. in Knoppix (for his wife).
 
 Hope against hope.

You are saying stuff that I cannot easily digest. What do you mean with
Hope against hope? Really though, don't bother explaining as I do not
intend to continue with this thread as I do not understand at all where
you are going with it.


 Seems you're not easily swayed by ugly financial reasons like Google
 crashing everything in its path (so you join it to avoid certain harm).

And now with this, you can be sure I will not continue to discuss your
visions with whatever it is your searching.

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Re: [blfs-support] VLC and Video4Linux (was: [blfs-book] r10987 ...)

2013-02-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
Fernando de Oliveira wrote these words on 02/02/13 11:10 CST:
 Forgot to say that I used the new instructions including the patch, to 
 install VLC.
 I could not find in the page an explanation for the necessity of the 
 patch, but do not remember if there are explanations for other patches.

There are ?tens/hundreds? of patches in BLFS and none of them have any 
explanation
in the book as the explanation is in the header of the patch. Patches are text
files that should have the explanation you are looking for embedded in the 
patch.

As far as your previous message goes, I do not really understand what you are
asking. Video4Linux is a dependency of many other packages in BLFS. What exactly
is your point?

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Re: [blfs-support] Speech Dispatcher in BLFS?

2013-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
alex lupu wrote these words on 02/01/13 17:53 CST:
 Hello,
 
 I was wondering if anybody would care to philosophize on
 whether the Speech Dispatcher warrants some treatment in the BLFS book.
 I see FreeTTS-1.2.2 alludes to Flite - Festival and Orca-3.6.3 to
 Speech Dispatcher, so the basics would be there.

I put the FreeTTS package into the BLFS book a long time ago. At the time,
there was a sight-impaired reader of the BLFS book who asked if there was
anything that could be done to assist her with 'reading' the book. It was
for that reason I put FreeTTS in the book. Flite and Festival might be
better options, I do not know. Flight builds easily, but I have not tested
it.

I would like to work with you, but not because of whatever you said about
so goes Google, goes  If there was a 'reader' who could expand on
the benefits that Speech Dispatcher provides, or if you could provide a
bit more detail about your quest, I would be happy to work on this project.

I have personal reasons for wanting to help sight-impaired people. Please
provide some background that expands on your original post other than
because the Chrome browser is increasingly heavy on speech. I could care
less about the Chrome browser.

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Re: [blfs-support] Speech Dispatcher in BLFS?

2013-02-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 02/01/13 18:07 CST:
 I could care less about the Chrome browser.

That should be 'I could *not* care less about the Chrome browser'. :-)

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Re: [blfs-support] libixion cannot find boost thread lib

2013-01-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas de Roo wrote these words on 01/29/13 05:13 CST:
 Thanks for all the help. I gave up. :( After I managed to get through 
 the ./configure phase (I had to tweak the Makefile.am to produce working 
 Makefile.in files), make stops at errors in the libixion-code. I tried 
 the latest version from the git-repository, with the same result.

Just for the record, I found a libixion-0.3.0.tar.gz tarball somewhere (don't
remember where, but I now have it). It only had an autogen.sh file which
produced configure and all the Makefile.in files. Then

LDFLAGS=-lboost_system ./configure
make
make check (all tests pass)
make install

No problems.

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Re: [blfs-support] libixion cannot find boost thread lib

2013-01-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas de Roo wrote these words on 01/28/13 09:41 CST:
 On 01/28/13 16:33, Randy McMurchy wrote:
 configure:16159: $? = 1
 configure:16144: re-using the existing conftest.o
 configure:16150: g++ -o conftest -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT 
 -DMDDS_HASH_CONTAINER_BOOST 
 -I/home/rml/build/libixion_0.3.0/mdds_0.5.4/destdir/usr/local/include -g -Os 
 -pthread   -L/usr/lib conftest.o -lboost_thread  -pthread 5
 /usr/bin/ld: conftest.o: undefined reference to symbol 
 '_ZN5boost6system15system_categoryEv'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: '_ZN5boost6system15system_categoryEv' is defined in DSO 
 /usr/lib/libboost_system.so.1.52.0 so try adding it to the linker command 
 line
 /usr/lib/libboost_system.so.1.52.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

 Where did you get the Makefiles in src and src/libixion?

I do not understand what you mean. I only have Makefile.{in,am} in the source
tree as configure bombed out on me the same as it did for you. It bombs out
before the Makefiles are created. I have not installed this package, I was
only trying to be helpful. In fact, I do not have mdds installed either. I
built it inside the libixion tree and installed to a destdir. You can see the
path for the mdds include files in the snippet above.

What Makefiles are you referring to?

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Re: [blfs-support] Stripping

2013-01-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Fernando de Oliveira wrote these words on 01/28/13 10:41 CST:
 Forwarded from the BLFS Book Maintenance List list.
 
 Sorry for top posting.
 
 Thanks, Randy.


Though essentially the same thing Bruce said, here is what I do at the
completion of LFS. Simply modify the log file locations and include any other
directories you wish and you may like the results:


du -sch {,usr/}{sbin,bin} \
 home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-bin.log 21
echo \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-bin.log
find sbin bin usr/sbin usr/bin -type f -exec strip --strip-all --preserve-dates 
{} \; \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-bin.log 21
echo \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-bin.log
du -sch {,usr/}{sbin,bin} \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-bin.log 21
cat   home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-bin.log | \
grep -v File format not recognized


du -sch {,usr/}lib \
 home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-lib.log 21
echo \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-lib.log
find lib usr/lib -type f -exec strip --strip-debug --preserve-dates {} \; \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-lib.log 21
echo \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-lib.log
du -sch {,usr/}lib \
home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-lib.log 21
cat   home/rml/build/Logs/LFS_System/Post-Installation/strip-lib.log | \
grep -v File format not recognized

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Re: [blfs-support] Type cups-filters instruction

2013-01-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas de Roo wrote these words on 01/24/13 08:45 CST:
 Hello,
 
 The instructions for installing cups-filters have invisable typos that 
 make copy-pasting of the commands fail:

My bad. Those somehow slipped in on my last commit to cups-filters. Fixed now.
Thanks for the report.

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Re: [blfs-support] audacious and GTK+

2013-01-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas de Roo wrote these words on 01/23/13 13:44 CST:
 In the BLFS-book, GTK+-2 or -3 is listed as a requirement for Audacious. 
 Since version 3.3 that is no longer the case, it only builds with GTK+-3. 
 GTK+-2 users have to use the old 3.2-branch. I think GTK+-2 should be 
 removed from the Audacious-page.

The book is still at version 3.3.2, so it may still be applicable. I have the
ticket to update audacious. I will to that today. I will examine the 
configure.ac
file in the 3.3.3 version (which I have installed) and make the necessary
corrections to the dependencies. There is also a patch for the 3.3.3 version and
the words to explicitly set gmodule-2.0 location will also be removed.

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Re: [blfs-support] audacious and GTK+

2013-01-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Thomas de Roo wrote these words on 01/23/13 15:46 CST:
 See the System Requirements-remark of the 3.3 release: 
 http://audacious-media-player.org/news/16-audacious-3-3-released

As I mentioned before, when the book is updated to the 3.3.3 release (sometime
today) it will have the correct dependencies. I have already removed the GTK+2
stuff, but I have not committed the changes yet. Please have a little patience.
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Re: [blfs-support] Glib-networking make check

2013-01-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/18/2013 10:59 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 This is an interesting list.  A new page in Chapter 2 or 3 may be a good
 place to summarize these configuration items.

I agree; however, most of them only need to be done manually if you use
a non-standard installation method such as DESTDIR. Interesting one was
the mandb command. I've never run it before *ever*, and I really do not
see the purpose. It does build a database, but what is it for? My systems
have always found man pages with no delay whatsoever. I cannot see any
difference before or after running mandb, and I have over 12,000 man files
on my current system.

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[blfs-support] Glib-networking make check

2013-01-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all,

When I run 'make check' after compiling the glib-networking-2.34.2 package
it bombs with an error:

GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSetting schemas are instaled on the system

I have gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.6.1 installed and configure finds it
just fine. The package builds fine but as I mentioned 'make check' bombs
immediately with the error shown above.

Any tips where I should look?

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Re: [blfs-support] cyrus-sasl and gsasl questions

2013-01-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/10/2013 7:00 AM, lux-integ wrote:
 I dont know if I am uninformed but I get the impression that cyrus-sasl is not
 being developed anymore.

What makes you think that? The Cyrus-SASL mailing lists are active and
have big name guys (Howard Chu, Henry Hotz) contributing patches, etc. to
the Cyrus-SASL git repo. Alexey Melnikov (current maintainer) also has
contributed within the last few months.


  I noticed there is a gnusasl (gsasl)  which seems to
 be actively developed.  This springs  a few questions:-

 q1: Does anyone know if gsasl is a direct replacement for cyrus-sasl?

I am not sure. I've not heard anything either way.


 q2: openldap and cyrus-sasl have a circular dependency; does anyone know if
 ldap can be built against gsasl and  if there is the same circular dependency?

That circular dependency has been there forever. Build Cyrus-SASL (without 
LDAP),
the build LDAP with Cyrus-SASL support, then build Cyrus-SASL again, this time
with LDAP support.


 q3: what functionality does cyrus-sasl have that gsasl does not have and vice-
 versa

Not sure, but the LDAP docs do not mention gsasl and specifically say you must
have Cyrus-SASL installed for sasl support. You would have to install gsasl and
then try to build packages that use sasl support (LDAP, Kerberos, IMAP stuff, 
etc.)
to see if they will use it.

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Re: [blfs-support] systemd - udev - bewilderment

2013-01-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/6/2013 5:58 PM, Jim Michmerhuizen wrote:
 I'm in the same position as Ken Moffatt was on 2012.08.21. Problems
 with gudev in udev-lfs-188, and for the same reason: I'm trying to
 build gudev so I can build colord for cups.

 Well, I'm getting different error messages:
 [snip]

I built LFS-SVN-20121208 using systemd-196. Later I used the same systemd
package to build gudev during BLFS stuff. The build was fine. No issues.
Here are the files that were installed:

/usr/include/gudev-1.0
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudev.h
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudevclient.h
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudevdevice.h
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudevenumerator.h
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudevenums.h
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudevenumtypes.h
/usr/include/gudev-1.0/gudev/gudevtypes.h
/usr/lib/girepository-1.0/GUdev-1.0.typelib
/usr/lib/libgudev-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libgudev-1.0.so.0
/usr/lib/libgudev-1.0.so.0.1.2
/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gudev-1.0.pc
/usr/share/gir-1.0/GUdev-1.0.gir
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/GUdevClient.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/GUdevDevice.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/GUdevEnumerator.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/annotation-glossary.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/api-index-deprecated.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/api-index-full.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/gudev-hierarchy.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/gudev.devhelp2
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/home.png
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/index.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/index.sgml
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/ix02.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/left.png
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/ref-API.html
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/right.png
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/style.css
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gudev/up.png

I'm not sure this helps any, but just wanted to mention that my build
of gudev was uneventful. Colord and Cups built fine.

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Re: [blfs-support] CPU frequency control

2013-01-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/5/2013 4:30 PM, Baho Utot wrote:
 Is there a pdf of the manual?
 I would like to put it on my ebook reader.

No, we don't generate a PDF on a regular basis, but I could create one
and upload it so that you have access. However, do you *really* want a
1200+ page book on your ebook reader that changes almost daily? The PDF
would be obsolete in a matter of days.

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Re: [blfs-support] CPU frequency control

2013-01-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 1/5/2013 5:10 PM, Baho Utot wrote:
 I was looking for the edguide as a pdf, not the BLFS.  I would be nice
 to known if the ebook reader could handle the BLFS.pdf though.

I will create a PDF copy of the Editor's Guide for you. I will reply to
this post when I have it done.

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Re: [blfs-support] Chapter 41. CD/DVD-Writing Utilities - K3b-2.0.2

2012-12-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Baho Utot wrote these words on 12/28/12 17:49 CST:
 In the Beyond Linux® From Scratch - Version 2012-09-25
 The K3b page has some info for RMLCopyDVD
 
 The links are broken on the anduin server there doesn't seem to be an 
 svn repo for this either.
 
 Is this project still alive?

Not really, it has been six years since a release. It would still work I'm
sure, but the only purpose it had was to use a single-layer DVD to copy the
contents of a double-layer DVD source. However, it has been many years since
I've done this and I cannot help but think that blank writeable double-layer
DVD's cost about the same as single-layer? I'm not sure.

The project is at http://www.mcmurchy.com/rmlcopydvd

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Re: [blfs-support] BLFS Packages (was: no subject)

2012-12-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 12/21/12 09:20 CST:
  Yes, the first time will be tedious and involve a lot of planning.
 That's partly because there are now so many packages available.

Oh you're being too kind, Ken. I can sum up the two sentences I quoted with:

Dependency Hell!

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Re: [blfs-support] Mutt

2012-12-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote these words on 12/15/12 19:55 CST:
 Do you know if mutt can be used as utility to fetch mail via pop, sort,
 and send mail? My purpose is avoiding any MTA server. Does a solution
 exist?

Ken would be the one to ask about this as I think his current mail client
is Mutt (at least his last post to this list used Mutt). If I recall
correctly, it has been his mail client for, well, about forever.

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Re: blfs setup with dns and kdc??

2011-10-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 10/21/2011 7:20 PM, luxInteg wrote:
I would thus be grateful to
 know from anyone  on list   experienced with kerberos and bind what are the
 security implications of running dns on a kdc.

I have done exactly what you are looking to do. I feel that as long
as you set up Kerberos properly (I've always used Heimdal), there
should be no problem creating a DNS server on the same machine.

Bruce is a good authority on Bind and DNS (as is DJ), and either of
them could provide additional helpful information. But from the
Kerberos side of things, just ensure that the installation is set
up properly (permissions on the database directory and the /etc
files).

HTH,
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Re: Python install question

2011-10-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 10/10/2011 8:38 AM, luxInteg wrote:
 I know Python can be finnicky  so is it necessary to yank out  the installed
 copy of Python-2.7.1 before installing   that which was  built with valgrind
 or is installing over sufficient?

Either way would probably yield the same result; however, if I
recall correctly, Python puts a binary and a symlink in /usr/bin
and then a single directory in /usr/lib. Since removing Python
is so easy, that is what I would do (I use package management,
so I always remove existing packages if I upgrade or reinstall).

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Re: Ghostscript and FreeType

2011-09-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 9/5/2011 3:59 PM, Pol Vangheluwe wrote:
 I don't see anything wrong here. BTW: I also built libpaper to avoid a 
 configuration warning - is not mentioned in BFLS.

Sure it is. It is listed as an optional dependency in the Ghostscript 
instructions.

Though that doesn't explain why you can't build against a system installed 
version
of Freetype.

I've never encountered this before. Something is definitely strange.

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Re: Ghostscript and FreeType

2011-09-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 9/5/2011 6:58 PM, Andrew Benton wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:59:36 +0200
 Pol Vangheluwepol.vanghel...@belgacom.net  wrote:
 I don't see anything wrong here.  BTW: I also built libpaper to avoid a 
 configuration warning - is not mentioned in BFLS.
 Maybe that's what you're doing that is different to everyone else?
 I don't install libpaper and ghostscript has no problem linking with
 the system freetype for me.

Just FYI, I install libpaper before ghostscript and I also have no
problem linking system freetype with ghostscript. I think we need to
look at something else that you may be doing. As I mentioned in a
previous post, I do not think the installation (or lack of) libpaper
has anything to do with your issues.

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Re: paco

2011-07-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 7/22/2011 6:24 PM, Fernando Oliveira wrote:
 PS. The only place virtual or real I have to discuss compilation matters is 
 this list, so I apologize if something seems not appropriate.

No need to apologize. This list is the perfect place to discuss all
matters related to BLFS. Of course, if there are mistakes in the book,
or you have information that can enhance the book, the -dev list would
then be preferred.

Do not ever feel that asking questions about anything BLFS is off-topic
for this list. It is the *support* list. If you post, we will do our
best to help.

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Re: Fakeroot Fakechroot

2011-07-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Murdok Petrovsky wrote these words on 07/03/11 13:15 CST:
 I'm trying to build a script for uninstall packages, for this i need
 build a list with files and path of files installed, well my best
 solution is use fakeroot or fakechroot, i don't want use make DESTDIR
 install because some packages don't support it like GLIBC.

Just for the record, GLIBC does support a DESTDIR installation, only you
must use 'make install_root=DESTDIR install' (DESTDIR is whatever location
you desire).

Almost all packages support a DESTDIR installation in one way or another.
The only issue is you need to run the 'make install DESTDIR=whatever
command as root, or unexpected things occur. Things such as some files not
being created (GTK+, for example), SETUID/SETGID are not set properly,
ownerships are not set properly, etc.

The only problem with the make install as root is very rarely, the install
target does not completely honor the DESTDIR location, and installs the
file into /usr (or whatever prefix you choose). This is no issue for me,
as I check to see if a file exists before I do the copy from the the
DESTDIR location to the final destination. If it exists, I find out why
(if I am not already expecting it).

My Package Management solution uses DESTDIR and does everything I need
(which are all the things you describe). I can uninstall a package using
a simple command (though I would never uninstall GLIBC as you mention
and Andy also recommends to avoid doing).


 I've downloaded  and installed fakeroot and fakechroot.
 
 Now my question how can i do make install on fakechroot,
 
 Makepkg of archlinux use fakeroot but nobody can't  explain how it works

Sorry, can't help you with these. I've never needed or used them.

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Re: Firefox-4.0

2011-03-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 3/26/2011 3:19 AM, Andrew Benton wrote:
 As you can see, firefox.bin is linked to libpng14.so.14 so
 --enable-system-png obviously works fine...

Actually, the output of ldd is quite meaningless for determining
if Firefox is using it directly. For example, if you compile GTK+
wit libpng, the output of a GTK+ binary will have libpng included.

Then, if you use the system GTK+ during compilation of Firefox, the
ldd output of the Firefox binary will also have libpng included, even
if you used an internal version of libpng that ships with Firefox
(not sure if it does, this is simply an example).

So, bottom line, ldd should never be used to determine if a library
was linked in directly to some binary. It *can* be used, but it is a
very unreliable method of determining what was linked in during
compilation.

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Re: xorg-7.6 (long, boring, list of packages)

2011-01-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
luxInteg wrote these words on 01/27/11 15:53 CST:
 Can Python-2.7.1 be used with xorg-7.6?  
 or must the 2.6 series be used?

The reason we have/did not move to Python-2.7.x is because of the age
of GNOME that is in the book. There would be many incompatibilities
which would make it difficult. Xorg isn't the issue.

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Re: xorg-7.6 (long, boring, list of packages)

2011-01-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/27/11 15:14 CST:
 The reason we have/did not move to Python-2.7.x is because of the age
 of GNOME that is in the book. There would be many incompatibilities
 which would make it difficult. Xorg isn't the issue.

I should have mentioned that I am building a GNOME desktop using Python-7.x.
I haven't encountered issues yet, but it has been reported that there are
issues. As I go through the GNOME build, I'll see if stuff can't be
backported from current GNOME to support the newer Python.

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Re: git install and /usr/libexec directory

2011-01-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote these words on 01/16/11 05:45 CST:
 git wants to put gitcore in /usr/libexec and, until now, no other package
 installed files there. That directory does not exits and I think is against
 FHS. What would be the most appropriate destination directory for that file?

BLFS has established convention that libexec files go to /usr/lib/package_name.

In your case: /usr/lib/git

Often I will vary from the convention if the package has created a different
directory name in /usr/lib. For instance, if the package created 
/usr/lib/git_files,
I would use that instead of creating another directory.

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Re: tickling make or libtool or whatever

2011-01-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
luxInteg wrote these words on 01/09/11 09:49 CST:
 I may be asking the imposible but I will ask anyway.  Does any one of a way 
 to reveal  seemingly 'hidden' preprocessor -D options for packages usig  
 the libtool/config.h wrapper?

Could you parse config.h, config.log or a Makefile for that info? Or are
you looking for stuff before configure is run?

Be careful using anything other than the default with FFTW; however,
because if you vary from it, it will break some packages. At least that
has been my experience.

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Re: acl, attr and a /usr separate partition

2010-12-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mike Hollis wrote these words on 12/06/10 08:36 CST:
  There was a discussion about adding a warning to the book about this 
 last year :
 
 http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-book/2009-November/027491.html

As well as a current ticket (#2999) in the Trac system to actually do it.

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Re: expat / gimp problem

2010-12-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 12/05/10 16:45 CST:
 Comments welcome.

Adobe Photoshop? :-)

Just kidding, Ken, I wish there was something I could provide that would
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Re: one more thing: linux-pam and shadow

2010-11-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
bendeguz wrote these words on 11/25/10 08:10 CST:
 Thank you, here it goes:

To be honest, the .la files looked okay. I cannot figure out why only
you have to create the symlinks you did. I've included the same output
from my newest build (current book versions of PAM and Shadow). You'll
see the correct symlinks and all works (and built) just fine. Perhaps
it will remain a mystery. Please try to see if there are any differences
between your output and mine (hint: put my stuff in a file and yours in
another file and do a diff).


r...@rmlinux: ~/build  ls {/usr/lib,/lib}/libpam* -l
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root16 Nov  1 10:43 /lib/libpam.so.0 - libpam.so.0.83.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52640 Nov  1 10:45 /lib/libpam.so.0.83.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root21 Nov  1 10:43 /lib/libpam_misc.so.0 - 
libpam_misc.so.0.82.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11086 Nov  1 10:45 /lib/libpam_misc.so.0.82.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root17 Nov  1 10:43 /lib/libpamc.so.0 - libpamc.so.0.82.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11842 Nov  1 10:45 /lib/libpamc.so.0.82.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   902 Nov  1 10:43 /usr/lib/libpam.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root26 Nov  1 10:43 /usr/lib/libpam.so - 
../../lib/libpam.so.0.83.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   951 Nov  1 10:43 /usr/lib/libpam_misc.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root31 Nov  1 10:43 /usr/lib/libpam_misc.so - 
../../lib/libpam_misc.so.0.82.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   903 Nov  1 10:43 /usr/lib/libpamc.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root27 Nov  1 10:43 /usr/lib/libpamc.so - 
../../lib/libpamc.so.0.82.1
r...@rmlinux: ~/build  cat /usr/lib/libpam*.la
# libpam.la - a libtool library file
# Generated by ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 2.2.6
#
# Please DO NOT delete this file!
# It is necessary for linking the library.

# The name that we can dlopen(3).
dlname='libpam.so.0'

# Names of this library.
library_names='libpam.so.0.83.0 libpam.so.0 libpam.so'

# The name of the static archive.
old_library=''

# Linker flags that can not go in dependency_libs.
inherited_linker_flags=''

# Libraries that this one depends upon.
dependency_libs=' -ldl'

# Names of additional weak libraries provided by this library
weak_library_names=''

# Version information for libpam.
current=83
age=83
revision=0

# Is this an already installed library?
installed=yes

# Should we warn about portability when linking against -modules?
shouldnotlink=no

# Files to dlopen/dlpreopen
dlopen=''
dlpreopen=''

# Directory that this library needs to be installed in:
libdir='/lib'
# libpam_misc.la - a libtool library file
# Generated by ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 2.2.6
#
# Please DO NOT delete this file!
# It is necessary for linking the library.

# The name that we can dlopen(3).
dlname='libpam_misc.so.0'

# Names of this library.
library_names='libpam_misc.so.0.82.0 libpam_misc.so.0 libpam_misc.so'

# The name of the static archive.
old_library=''

# Linker flags that can not go in dependency_libs.
inherited_linker_flags=''

# Libraries that this one depends upon.
dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libpam.la -ldl'

# Names of additional weak libraries provided by this library
weak_library_names=''

# Version information for libpam_misc.
current=82
age=82
revision=0

# Is this an already installed library?
installed=yes

# Should we warn about portability when linking against -modules?
shouldnotlink=no

# Files to dlopen/dlpreopen
dlopen=''
dlpreopen=''

# Directory that this library needs to be installed in:
libdir='/lib'
# libpamc.la - a libtool library file
# Generated by ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 2.2.6
#
# Please DO NOT delete this file!
# It is necessary for linking the library.

# The name that we can dlopen(3).
dlname='libpamc.so.0'

# Names of this library.
library_names='libpamc.so.0.82.1 libpamc.so.0 libpamc.so'

# The name of the static archive.
old_library=''

# Linker flags that can not go in dependency_libs.
inherited_linker_flags=''

# Libraries that this one depends upon.
dependency_libs=''

# Names of additional weak libraries provided by this library
weak_library_names=''

# Version information for libpamc.
current=82
age=82
revision=1

# Is this an already installed library?
installed=yes

# Should we warn about portability when linking against -modules?
shouldnotlink=no

# Files to dlopen/dlpreopen
dlopen=''
dlpreopen=''

# Directory that this library needs to be installed in:
libdir='/lib'

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Re: bdb version ?

2010-11-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mike Hollis wrote these words on 11/23/10 15:57 CST:

 I tried  subversion-1.6.13 and got the same error.
 
 Suggestions ?

I already have fixed this in my subversion-1.6.13 tree, I just haven't
made a patch. I know it is trivial. I just looked and I see that I
modified build/ac-macros/berkeley-db.m4 and then ran autoconf to make
a new configure script. I'll get patch out here in a couple of minutes.
It might even be a sed.

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Re: bdb version ?

2010-11-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mike Hollis wrote these words on 11/23/10 15:57 CST:
 I tried  subversion-1.6.13 and got the same error.
 
 Suggestions ?

There are 3 lines in build/ac-macros/berkeley-db.m4 that I changed in
my subversion1.6.13 tree. Make this change in three places in that file
and all should be good.

-if test $apu_db_version != 4; then
+if test $apu_db_version = 4; then

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Re: bdb version ?

2010-11-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Benton wrote these words on 11/23/10 16:59 CST:

 sed -i 's/4/5/' configure

That is a good fix for someone with a known BDB-5.1 installation (as we
know Mike's is), but it wouldn't work in the book.

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Re: bdb version ?

2010-11-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mike Hollis wrote these words on 11/23/10 18:40 CST:
 I'll try the macro edit.

Remember to run autoconf in the root of the subversion tree. Worked
great for me.

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Re: one more thing: linux-pam and shadow

2010-11-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
bendeguz wrote these words on 11/22/10 07:19 CST:
 I had installed linux-pam, as it is suggested 
 in the book, and then rebuilt shadow.
 
 the book says:
 mv -v /lib/libpam{,c,_misc}.la /usr/lib: This command 
 moves the Libtool library files to /usr/lib as they 
 are expected to reside there.
 
 I couldn't force shadow to find the libs in
 /usr/lib. It said - as I can remember - a few 
 warnings about libpam.la has moved to /usr/lib.
 Then an error message of missing /lib/libpam.la .
 
 As a workaround I made a symlink to the library in
 /lib .
 Do you have better ideas?

Yes, provide us the exact error message you get, and the
exact command you gave that produced the error. I just
installed PAM and a reinstall of Shadow not too long ago
and I had no problems.

It is important: the *exact* command you gave, and the *exact*
error message.

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Re: [PATCH] Build gobject-introspection-0.6.14 against python 2.7

2010-11-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andre Keller wrote these words on 11/22/10 17:24 CST:
 Hi
 
 if you like to build gobject-introspection against python 2.7 you will
 need to apply a patch like the one attached...

I just used a recent version of gobject-introspection and it worked fine
without a patch. I'll have to see how GNOME will interact with Python-2.7,
but I'm not quite ready to start in on the GNOME packages.

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Re: one more thing: linux-pam and shadow

2010-11-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
bendeguz wrote these words on 11/22/10 15:22 CST:
 Thank you, here it goes:
 
 this is for PAM:
 
 ./configure --sbindir=/lib/security \
 --docdir=/usr/share/doc/Linux-PAM-1.1.3 \
 --enable-read-both-confs
 make
 
 I did the post installation operations as it is
 said in the book.

Here is where I think you've done something wrong which causes
the build to blow up in shadow.

Please list the current locations of all the PAM libraries and symlinks
and cat out the contents of each PAM .la file.

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Re: Problem with ifconfig output

2010-11-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andre Keller wrote these words on 11/21/10 20:15 CST:
 I installed the ifconfig from net-tools as described in the blfs book.

I use a recent pull from CVS, if you need details how to do it just ask
I get:

r...@rmlinux: ~/build  /sbin/ifconfig
eth0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST  mtu 1500  metric 1
inet 192.168.1.222  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:0a:e6:93:03:a3  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 2391033  bytes 2210572226 (2.0 GiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 1810793  bytes 286183611 (272.9 MiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
device interrupt 23  base 0x2000

lo: flags=73UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING  mtu 16436  metric 1
inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
loop  txqueuelen 0  (Local Loopback)
RX packets 75154  bytes 18622509 (17.7 MiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 75154  bytes 18622509 (17.7 MiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

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Re: bdb version ?

2010-11-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mike Hollis wrote these words on 11/18/10 15:25 CST:
 The above ticket mentioned  db-4.8.30 as a solution. I saw that the
 ticket was recently updated , and followed the links and noted  
 db-5.1.19 was being considered but may have some issues with Cyrus-SASL.

I have a patch that will allow cyrus to build. Builds fine, but I haven't
actually used cyrus for any authentication yet. It'll probably be fine,
time will tell. I've attached the patch.


 I'm  thinking of starting a new devel LFS build. I've been lazy and 
 using jhalfs so I think I'll do a manual build and try db-5.1.19 .
 Db-4.5.20 is already linked to far too many packages to backtrack on
 this build.

I recently started a new build and have used BDB-5.1 and OpenSSL-1.0.0
since the beginning and haven't run into anything I couldn't handle
so far.


 I am pretty unfamilar with TRAC. What does  milestone changed from 
 future to 6.7  mean ? I will guess that the next release  version
 of BLFS will be 6.7 and the package will be used in that release.

Yes, that is the goal. We are trying to get a release out soon with
the target platform as LFS-6.7, so we keep the BLFS version the same.
Hence, the future to 6.7 updates. So far it looks okay. I've tested
BDB with many packages so far, without any issues. LDAP's database
is fine, sendmail's alias database is fine, etc.

I ran a few batch updates to the Trac tickets to remove all the
6.5 milestones and either batch updated to future or 6.7, which
we are hoping to release rather soon. I know I'm working as fast
as I can, but my time each day is limited. Ken is doing a great
job, and DJ will be picking it up here soon (or so he mentioned).
I'd like to get as many folks working on it as possible so we can
do a release soon.

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--- sasldb/db_berkeley.c.orig	2010-10-04 21:11:15.044010468 -0400
+++ sasldb/db_berkeley.c	2010-10-04 21:12:18.921998718 -0400
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
 ret = db_create(mbdb, NULL, 0);
 if (ret == 0  *mbdb != NULL)
 {
-#if DB_VERSION_MAJOR == 4  DB_VERSION_MINOR = 1
+#if (DB_VERSION_MAJOR == 4  DB_VERSION_MINOR = 1) || DB_VERSION_MAJOR == 5
 	ret = (*mbdb)-open(*mbdb, NULL, path, NULL, DB_HASH, flags, 0660);
 #else
 	ret = (*mbdb)-open(*mbdb, path, NULL, DB_HASH, flags, 0660);

--- utils/dbconverter-2.c.orig	2010-10-04 21:23:39.778000256 -0400
+++ utils/dbconverter-2.c	2010-10-04 21:24:50.384999893 -0400
@@ -214,7 +214,7 @@
 ret = db_create(mbdb, NULL, 0);
 if (ret == 0  *mbdb != NULL)
 {
-#if DB_VERSION_MAJOR == 4  DB_VERSION_MINOR = 1
+#if (DB_VERSION_MAJOR == 4  DB_VERSION_MINOR = 1) || DB_VERSION_MAJOR == 5
 	ret = (*mbdb)-open(*mbdb, NULL, path, NULL, DB_HASH, DB_CREATE, 0664);
 #else
 	ret = (*mbdb)-open(*mbdb, path, NULL, DB_HASH, DB_CREATE, 0664);

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Re: font path error, and thanks

2010-11-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jim Michmerhuizen wrote these words on 11/15/10 09:59 CST:
 The error appears in the fourth graybox on the Xorg Fonts page in 
 svn-20101016, and it's still there in svn-20101112:
 
 ln -svn $XORG_PREFIX/share/fonts/X11/fonts/OTF /usr/share/fonts/X11-OTF
 ln -svn $XORG_PREFIX/share/fonts/X11/fonts/TTF /usr/share/fonts/X11-TTF
 
 I'm installing into /opt/X11, and the fonts are in
 
   /opt/X11/share/fonts/X11
 *not*
   /opt/X11/share/fonts/X11/fonts

I created a Trac ticket for this exact problem a week ago. I'm not really
keen on the Xorg stuff, so I thought I'd let DJ review it. That's why I
didn't just go ahead and make the change.

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Re: Some typos and other glitches blfs svn-2010-11-13

2010-11-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Allard Welter wrote these words on 11/15/10 05:10 CST:
 Hi,
 
 It has been about four years since my last build of (b)lfs. There are
 reasons (I went walkabout, and the got a job). I haven't finished yet,
 but here are some comments up to now. I have not gone through the
 archives to check if any of these issues have been raised. Should any
 be of my doing, resolved, reported or otherwise, I sincerely
 apologise.
 
 Using LFS-6.7 and blfs-svn-2010-11-13
 
 First some typos:

I will catch these right now.


 Other issues in no particular order.
 
 TeTeX: This package is no longer being maintained. There is no problem
 as it stands, except that the check aborts because the packaged
 sources are more than 5 years old. This is easily hacked. I use LaTex
 a lot (I lecture physics) and pretty much everything in TeTeX is still
 ok, there is no issue updating style files from CTAN for the odd
 package that has since acquired extra functionality (most notably
 pstricks). Most distros go with TeXLive. I don't have internet at home
 so TeXLive is a bit impractical. I will be investigating a means of
 ripping the packaged sources from somewhere. I think the entire bundle
 is a dvd's worth, which is also impractical and certainly no needed.
 TeXLive is distributed as a xz compressed archive. Perhaps xz and 7z
 can get a mention somewhere?

XZ is going into the book to replace lzma. I am working on TeXLive right
now. I hope to have a functional built-from-source setup in the book real
soon.

I will also look at all the others as well. Thanks for taking the
time to report the bugs.

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Re: Some typos and other glitches blfs svn-2010-11-13

2010-11-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 11/15/10 10:36 CST:
  You still build without one or other variant of which ?  Thanks for
 the report, it's such a basic part of the stack for most of us that
 it's hard to find what needs it.  Again, I'll add a comment.

Do you want me to address these? I've already fixed the typos and was
just starting in on the rest of the stuff.

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Re: Some typos and other glitches blfs svn-2010-11-13

2010-11-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Allard Welter wrote these words on 11/15/10 05:10 CST:
 First some typos:
 
 D-BUS-1.2.16: sed 's/possibly used with/possibly be used with/'
 Fcron-3.0.4: sed 's/exiting/existing/'
 Xorg Libraries: sed 's/Diable/Disable/'
 kdelibs: sed 's/The usual building the API documentation/The usual
 building of the API documentation/'
 samba: sed 's/pam_winbind.somodule/pam_winbind.so module/'

All fixed. Thanks for the report!

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Re: Some typos and other glitches blfs svn-2010-11-13

2010-11-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
William Immendorf wrote these words on 11/15/10 10:43 CST:
 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Allard Welter allard.wel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 x264 wants yasm. I linked nasm to asm which compiles ok, I haven't got
 round to checking if it works yet.
 This is why YASM should go into the book,

As best as I can tell, x264 is still a Non-BLFS package. We don't install
packages to support other packages that are not in the book. Of course,
if someone were to send in a patch to add a reputable package to the book,
we would certainly look at it!

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Re: Segmentation fault in Configuring DocBook XSL Stylesheets

2010-11-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ryosuke KUTSUNA wrote these words on 11/03/10 09:07 CST:
 I'm try to build BLFS svn-20101028, Setting of docbook-xslt does not go
 well. I output the following messages and stop.
 
   -bash-4.1# xmlcatalog --noout --add rewriteSystem \
  http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/1.75.2; \
  /usr/share/xml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-1.75.2 \
  /etc/xml/catalog 
   Segmentation fault

Here is an update:
I'm seeing the same as Ken and others. No issues, providing  you use current
package versions. I'm using an LFS-SVN-20101029 platform (which includes
zlib-1.2.5) and libxml2-2.7.7. Here is a sample of what I see:


r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1  xmlcatalog --noout --add 
rewriteSystem \
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/${PACKAGE_VERSION}; \
/usr/share/xml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-${PACKAGE_VERSION} \
 /etc/xml/catalog


r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1  ls -l /etc/xml
total 8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1746 Nov  5 20:16 catalog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3336 Nov  5 18:34 docbook


r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1  xmlcatalog --noout --add 
rewriteURI \
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/${PACKAGE_VERSION}; \
/usr/share/xml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-${PACKAGE_VERSION} \
 /etc/xml/catalog
r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1 
r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1  xmlcatalog --noout --add 
rewriteSystem \
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current; \
/usr/share/xml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-${PACKAGE_VERSION} \
 /etc/xml/catalog
r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1 
r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1  xmlcatalog --noout --add 
rewriteURI \
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current; \
/usr/share/xml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-${PACKAGE_VERSION} \
 /etc/xml/catalog


r...@rmlinux: /home/rml/build/docbook-xsl-1.76.1  ls -l /etc/xml
total 8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2191 Nov  5 20:16 catalog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3336 Nov  5 18:34 docbook

You can see the operations perform as expected and the catalog file is
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Re: Auto mounting USB thumb drives and CD/DVD

2010-04-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Baho Utot wrote these words on 04/10/10 11:05 CST:
 What do I need to enable regular users to auto mount DVD/CD and USB drives?
 
 I have HAL installed. Do I need any other packages?

Do you do *any* research on your own before just blindly throwing
out questions? Why I ask is you don't include any information about
what you have tried and did not work. It makes me think you just want
everything handed to you.

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Re: Subversion-1.6.9 book error ?

2010-04-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
zzflop wrote these words on 04/08/10 08:21 CST:
 I used  --with-dbm=db4 and still no linked libraries. Tried 
 it twice and the second time with a fresh source tree.

You do have --enable-dbd in your configure command, right? I think it
is required as well. Here is my configure command. How much different
from this is yours?

./configure --enable-layout=FHS \
--enable-mods-shared=all \
--enable-authn-dbm \
--enable-authn-anon \
--enable-authn-dbd \
--enable-authn-alias \
--enable-authz-dbm \
--enable-authz-owner \
--enable-auth-digest \
--enable-file-cache \
--enable-cache \
--enable-disk-cache \
--enable-mem-cache \
--enable-dbd \
--enable-bucketeer \
--enable-dumpio \
--enable-echo \
--enable-example \
--enable-case-filter \
--enable-case-filter-in \
--enable-ext-filter \
--enable-charset-lite \
--enable-deflate \
--enable-log-forensic \
--enable-logio \
--enable-mime-magic \
--enable-cern-meta \
--enable-expires \
--enable-headers \
--enable-ident \
--enable-usertrack \
--enable-unique-id \
--enable-version \
--enable-proxy \
--enable-proxy-connect \
--enable-proxy-ftp \
--enable-proxy-http \
--enable-proxy-ajp \
--enable-proxy-balancer \
--enable-ssl \
--enable-optional-hook-export \
--enable-optional-hook-import \
--enable-optional-fn-import \
--enable-optional-fn-export \
--enable-http \
--enable-dav \
--enable-info \
--enable-suexec \
--enable-cgi \
--enable-cgid \
--enable-dav-fs \
--enable-dav-lock \
--enable-vhost-alias \
--enable-imagemap \
--enable-speling \
--enable-rewrite \
--enable-so \
--with-pcre \
--with-z \
--with-ssl \
--with-berkeley-db \
--with-dbm=db4 \
--with-ldap \
--enable-authnz-ldap \
--enable-ldap \

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Re: Subversion-1.6.9 book error ?

2010-04-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
zzflop wrote these words on 04/08/10 11:50 CST:

 Maybe this is a problem with BDB instead of Apache. I used
 book version of BDB but didn't run the test suite because of
 the dire warnings and I didn't have the dependencies for the
 test. However I just installed Sendmail and it uses BDB and
 works ok.

It has nothing to do with BDB. I don't run the tests on that
package either.


 I guess why this hasn't been noticed is because both Apache 
 and Svn work fine without BDB and the only people who need
 this functionality are those running Svn servers that rely 
 on BDB repositories.

That is correct.


 I'm about at the end of my expertise here, but will try 
 again if it can be sorted out.

All I know is that it works for me. You saw that when I sent the
email with my installed libs.

You *are* using the bundled version of APR that comes in the Apache
tarball, right?

Other than that, I can't help out much more. It does bother me that
it doesn't work for you. There must be something else that we can't
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Re: Subversion-1.6.9 book error ?

2010-04-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
zzflop wrote these words on 04/07/10 09:50 CST:
 I think I'll try the whole process again with Berkeley DB
 installed and see how it goes.

Keep in mind that it is APR-Util that must be linked to BDB, else it
doesn't matter what you tell Subversion to do, it cannot and will
not use BDB.

I will go back and look at Subversion's SQLite dependency and see if
it needs to be corrected.

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Re: D-Bus configuration for GNOME-2 (or KDE-4.4)

2010-04-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
James Richard Tyrer wrote:
 Then there is the question of the:
 
   /opt/gnome/share/share/polkit-1/actions

Not sure how you came up with that one. I'm doing a GNOME build
(slowly) in /opt/gnome and I have /opt/gnome/share/polkit-1/actions.

Perhaps we used different versions or installation methods?

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Re: sqlite-3.6.22

2010-03-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote these words on 03/21/10 14:20 CST:
 I have found another mistake in the instructions:
 
 install -v -m755 -d destdir/usr/share/doc/sqlite-3.6.22 
 cp  -v -R   sqlite-3_6_22-docs/* \
 destdir/usr/share/doc/sqlite-3.6.22

Fixed. Thanks for the report.

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Re: sqlite-3.6.22

2010-03-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
 The sqlite-amalgamation-3.6.22.tar.gz package doesn't contain any test
 suite. We need download and build the complete sqlite-3.6.22.tar.gz
 package in order to run the test suite.

I'm afraid we will just have to disagree about this one. Here is
information pulled directly from the SQLite download page about
the sqlite-3.6.xx.tar.gz tarball:

A tarball of the complete source tree for SQLite version 3.6.23
as extracted from the version control system. The Makefile and
configure script in this tarball are not supported. Their use is
not recommended. The SQLite developers do not use them. You should
not use them either. If you want a configure script and an
automated build, use either the amalgamation tarball or TEA
tarball instead of this one. To build from this tarball, hand-edit
one of the template Makefiles in the root directory of the tarball
and build using your own customized Makefile.

It is sort of hard to figure out why the SQLite devs want it that
way, but apparently they figure testing should only be done by
the dev team.

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Re: openssl-0.9.8l

2010-03-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:
 BLFS svn-20100317
 
 The instructions for the building and installing of openssl-0.9.8l
 contains several errors.

This would be funny if it was not such a dumb mistake on my part.
Recently, I noticed that a command in the *OpenSSH* instructions
had been removed some time ago. That command is still required. So
I added it back. Only problem is that I added it to the *OpenSSL*
instructions instead of the *OpenSSH* instructions.

Thanks for noticing, and I've fixed it.

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Re: Finally got Python to work with Openssl

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
brown wrap wrote these words on 03/12/10 09:55 CST:
 
 In trying to build Python, I kept getting the following errors:
 
 Failed to build these modules:
 _hashlib   _ssl

Then something else is wrong. Paths, or something is different than
what Python is expecting. Those modules build perfectly for me.


 I had Openssl installed, but whenever I used any software, where Python was 
 called on to use md5 I'd get errors. This stopped from building several 
 packages that I wanted. The fix is to go into the source directory of Python 
 and edit Modules/Setup (or Steup.dist on a fresh build) and uncomment out a 
 few lines. This may be clear to a lot of people, but not clear to me:
 
  Socket module helper for socket(2)
 _socket socketmodule.c
 
 # Socket module helper for SSL support; you must comment out the other
 # socket line above, and possibly edit the SSL variable:
 SSL=/usr/ssl
 _ssl _ssl.c \
 -DUSE_SSL -I$(SSL)/include -I$(SSL)/include/openssl \
 -L$(SSL)/lib -lssl -lcrypto

I'm glad that worked for you; however, you are probably better off
trying to figure out what the *real* problem is. Using a hack that
nobody else needs to use should be telling you something.

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Re: cups (gtk+, udev, ...)

2010-03-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 03/08/10 09:10 CST:
 I've got a strange problem with cups.[snip]

I'm about to update the CUPS/Ghostscript/Printer Driver section. We'll
just have to see how accurate my install of drivers will be. I throw
Samba in the mix, so that is even more of a workout as the printer is on
a Windows machine.

I've never had a problem in the past. Not saying that what I put in
the book will work for everyone, but I'll know it worked for me.

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Re: Trouble building gir-repository

2010-03-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Lars Bamberger wrote these words on 03/07/10 07:54 CST:
 What I think is the problem
 ===
 
 If GNOME_PREFIX is anything other than the usual system-paths, the build
 mechanism passes incorrect arguments to libtool which can't find the
 libs. Runing the whole autoconf stack (aclocal, autoheader, automake,
 autoconf, configure, make) didn't help.

That would be an exact description of what would happen if you did
not have an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf for /opt/gnome/lib.

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Re: libdrm-2.4.14 overwrites some drm linux-api-headers

2010-03-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
John Burrell wrote these words on 03/02/10 14:59 CST:
 If installed as root, libdrm will overwrite these linux-api-headers from 
 /usr/include/drm:

I just built a stock LFS-6.5 machine which uses kernel 2.6.30.10 and
libdrm 2.4.14 and no files are overwritten. This must be something new
in newer kernels?

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Re: help with gcc-compile-with-ada

2010-03-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
lux-integ wrote these words on 03/02/10 13:18 CST:
 I and having some difficulty compiling  gcc-4.4.2   with ada.   :-

Have you attempted to use the instructions from the BLFS-dev book?
I noticed your configure params are much different, but you are also
using 64 bit, I built the BLFS instructions using a 32-bit machine.

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Re: Experiencing lots of build problems

2010-02-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
brown wrap wrote these words on 02/26/10 10:47 CST:
 I did try the latest version, but still ran into problems. I guess the bigger 
 question is, how compatable is BLFS with LFS version 6.5?

We are trying to make it 100%, we just aren't there yet.

 I like both projects, but LFS was a set-by-step, BLFS seems to put out a list 
 of software with no order of installation given. I realize not everyone wants 
 to install the same things, so perhaps maybe its impossible to give a 
 step-by-step approach, but I find myself looking at a package and then seeing 
 it needs other required packages, which need yet other required packages.

Yup, as Bruce said, the BLFS book is not meant to be followed in any
specific order.

As far as the kerberos issue, I can perhaps get the dependencies
installed and attempt a Heimdal build today. Could you please post
the error messages you get when you install the most recent version
of Heimdal? Thanks.


 I get lost and side-tracked in what order to do things. Is there a plan to go 
 beyond the 6.3 version of BLFS?

Yes, we hope to get a 6.5 out soon, but for now use the development
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Re: fop.jar and classpath

2010-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
lux-integ wrote these words on 02/24/10 09:56 CST:
 I am planning to to install a program than needs fop,  is it wise to set  
 CLASSPATH= $CLASSPATH:/opt/fop/build/fop.jar

No, it is not required. That is why the book shows to put FOP_HOME
in your environment. I've never had to add any FOP stuff to the
CLASSPATH for it to work properly.


 QUESTION2:
  Is it wise to update CLASSPATH   like so for example?:-
 
  export
  CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/opt/fop-0.95/lib/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar:/opt/fop-0
 .95/lib/xercesImpl-2.7.1.jar:ETC

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Re: why gcc must be built two times?

2010-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 02/23/10 09:02 CST:
 None of BLFS is mandatory, so you don't *have* to do anything.  The 
 reinstallation of GCC is
 necessary if you want to install compilers for additional languages, such as 
 Java, on top of
 the C  C++ compilers installed in LFS.  BLFS installs an older version of 
 GCC, I think,
 because the BLFS book is so big, nobody has had time to verify that 
 installing the latest
 version works with the other packages in BLFS.

Just FYI, but I updated GCC to the LFS-6.5 version (4.4.1) in the last
week (2/18).

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Re: bug in netstat (net-tools-1.60)

2010-02-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/20/10 18:28 CST:

 net-tools-1.60-statistics_buffer.patch fixed it for me, but there are 
 several warnings during build.  It's a poorly maintained package.

I have no trouble using the CVS version on Berlios. It builds clean
and all utilities that I can tell work just fine. It has been in
development for some time, though some weeks go by without updates.
There is a ticket in BLFS to move to Net-Tools-CVS.

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Re: help tetex-src-3.0 error

2010-02-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Corstiaan Hol wrote:

 I suggest you to use the following patch to fix all errors at once:

Or, wait a couple of days and I will have the new TeX Live
instructions in the book which will replace the existing TeX.

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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Simon Geard wrote these words on 02/17/10 04:49 CST:
 On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 17:38 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote:
 Right now, GNOME is almost there. X has some changes that need to be
 done. I'm currently doing many packages. I can actually see a release
 happening.
 
 The Gnome release calendar has 2.30 due out in about 6 weeks. Will BLFS
 have 2.28 be ready before then? Or will we already be out of date before
 the next BLFS is published?

If the community's expectations are that we have the most current
release of every package in the most recent BLFS book, then the
expectations are too high and are unreasonable.

Do you really think there will be that much difference between
GNOME-2.28 and GNOME-2.30? Enough to say BLFS is out of date?

I don't think so, but that is just one man's opinion.

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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mike McCarty wrote these words on 02/16/10 01:32 CST:
 To put it another way, my time is my life.

But you have the time to write 9 paragraphs about why you don't like
distros and use BLFS! Pot-Kettle-Black. :-)

BTW, you may never again see a released version of BLFS, I'd take the
wise advise you were given and use the development version of BLFS for
all that you do concerning BLFS.

And I'm saying this as the lead Editor of the book.

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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 02/16/10 15:21 CST:
 But, if both Book maintainers say that there is no need for a BLFS release 
 anymore, then at
 least we have to find a workable scheme, so we can give to the developers and 
 users a clear
 target and don't leave them in the mist.

I'll try to address several of the items in this thread in this one
single reply.

First, to Ag, I didn't say we would never release again. It is just
getting Editor's to do the work, which we haven't had a lot of lately.
I really would like to get a version out that is compatible with LFS-6.5.
We may even be close. I can do the release management stuff, it is
simple and not time consuming. But we need to get the book in a state
where things are stable.

Right now, GNOME is almost there. X has some changes that need to be
done. I'm currently doing many packages. I can actually see a release
happening.

Next, about the idea of breaking the book up and letting the community
do the work. That is what the Wiki is for, so I am against breaking up
the book.

Next, about the moving target. As soon as we release, we have a stable
combination of LFS-6.5 and BLFS-6.5. It should be rock solid.

Next, someone is worrying about LFS releasing with GCC-4.4. So what?
Current development LFS is so bleeding edge, I'd bet there is no
distro as current as LFS development. People, you don't need to move
to the most current version of a package as soon as it is released.

I am building up a LFS-6.5, BLFS-6.5 (soon to be) combination for
production use. I will use that for a year or two as it is good
enough and will be very stable.

Please continue the discussion, as I want folks to be comfortable
that we are going to *try* to release a new BLFS, it just may not
happen due to lack of manpower. However, I really do see it happening.

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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
linux fan wrote these words on 02/16/10 16:11 CST:
 I claim that BLFS is a wonderful work of art with many thanks to the 
 developers.
 I suggest that when LFS-6.5 was released, there should at least have been
 a BLFS-6.5-RC1,

That would have been impossible. BLFS was not ready. Probably more than
half the packages would be broken, either not building, or not working.

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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
stosss wrote these words on 02/16/10 18:05 CST:
 You complain that you don't have enough help, but when help is offered
 you ignore it. so I have no petty on you.

This will be my last response on this matter, so please feel free to
comment but don't expect a reply.

Who has offered to help and was ignored? I do not recall anyone sending
in a patch to the book and doing the things (there really isn't much, just
know how to make updates in the XML) it takes to be invited to become an
Editor.

Lastly, the comment you have, though I didn't concentrate too hard when
I read your message, and you attempted in your last message (I snipped it)
to make it look as though I have been stubborn (when I believe it was Bruce
you actually thought was stubborn); these have been my first comments, I
never even said anything your excess generation of snapshot. But it seemed
that's what I remember, you thought our method of generating a snapshot
every night was unnecessary and confusing.

Well, you have been the only person to ever say anything about this, and
I don't think since the discussion started there has been anyone that
necessarily agreed with you. At least from what I remember, I could be
wrong.

Again: mountain==molehill

I'm sure you will reply, but please don't be offended if I do not reply
back. Unless of course, there was a heartfelt question asked in total
sincerity.

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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-15 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 02/15/10 16:16 CST:
  Summary: current blfs-dev is immensly more
 likely to work on a recent system than the 6.3
 release.

I will update the BLFS website in several places to indicate that
using the development version is preferred and a new release of BLFS
is in the works.


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Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any

2010-02-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
ALIP BUDIANTO wrote these words on 02/14/10 05:58 CST:
 On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Dmitry Sokolov wrote:
 
 We should do that because we are ALMOST TWO VERSIONS OR THREE VERSIONS  
 BEHIND LFS!!

Typically I would never respond to rude people who use all CAPS, and
don't contribute a thing towards the project, but an answer to the
original OP's question is deserving.

We will try to get a BLFS-6.5rc1 out just as soon as we can. I have
a little time to devote, so we'll just have to see. No promises. For
the time being just use the -dev book.

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Re: blfs-book-svn-html

2010-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
stosss wrote these words on 02/10/10 02:35 CST:
 What is different between these two?
 
 blfs-book-svn-html-2010-02-04
 blfs-book-svn-html-2010-02-09
 
 Both only show changes as of 02/03 and this is also at the top of the
 page for both of them svn-20100203. I double checked to make sure I
 had the right one.

Where do you see a blfs-book-svn-html-2010-02-09 book? There is not
one that I am aware of.

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Re: Some questions when building BLFS-dev(svn)

2010-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dmitry Sokolov wrote these words on 02/10/10 05:18 CST:
 When i building some package, this package have a Recommended, Optional and 
 Required packages.
 (Dependencies).
 Can you answer me Yes or No or When on my questions.
 
 1. Required packages needs to installed before current package?: I think, YES.

Yes, required packages must be installed before starting the current package.


 2. When Recommended package needs installed before or after cur. pkg.? Can i 
 install it later?

The recommended packages have gotten out of hand. We will be going through
the book and reviewing all recommended packages. For now, they should be
installed before the current package (unless there is a note that says you
install it only if you need the service it provides, and you know you don't
need it.


 3. Optional packages are not required now, while installing cur. pkg.? Can i 
 install it later?

You can always install it later. However, the current package probably won't
have the services provided by the optional package if you install the optional
after the current.


 May be i skipped some arctitle in the book, about this, give me link to this 
 if exists.
 But answers is simple, i think.

Required: You must install
Recommended: You should install
Optional: It is up to you to determine if you need the service it provides.

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0.1

2010-02-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/10/10 10:54 CST:
 What does OO need it for?  How does TB integrate with OO?

Not sure about that one.


 The only think I've ever thought that openLDAP was useful for was to 
 consolidate credentials of multiple users on multiple systems.
 
 If there are other useful things it can be used for, please tell me.  I 
 really want to know.

I believe TB would use LDAP as the backend storage for your address
book, if you so desired. That is a guess, but with some conviction
on my part that I've seen that description before.

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Re: Ticket Creation

2009-10-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Trent Shea wrote these words on 10/17/09 20:07 CST:
 As a general rule should the drop selections be left alone when creating 
 new tickets? Or are they there to reflect how the reporter feels?

Both. The default selections create a typical ticket. I went and changed
the default for the version to be Future. The reporter can change things
at will, but it must be reasonable or the ticket parameters will be changed
to something the editing staff feels is reasonable.

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Re: non mentioned dependencies

2009-09-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dominic Ringuet wrote:
 I want to confirm with somebody else first, is it possible that:
 
 xcb-proto requires python
 x7server requires openssl
 seamonkey requires updates from 1.1.9 to 1.1.17?

I'm not sure about those, but if your build is bombing out with
them not installed, and it works with them installed, then it
is likely they have been overlooked.


 IMO, the book needs to be fixed, so is there an official process to 
 follow to be able to maintain the development BLFS book? (a wiki? a svn 
 account?)

We use SVN as the repository for the actual XML files of the book.


 I volunteer.

It takes just a bit more than that. Please send in some patches to
update the book where you believe it is necessary. Sending in patches,
and participating in discussions on this list, the blfs-book list and
the blfs-dev lists is the quickest path to gaining SVN write privileges.

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Re: hal-0.5.9.1 and libvolume_id.h

2009-07-14 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/14/09 00:25 CST:

 BLFS is woefully out of date.  HAL-0.5.9.1 is two years old.

I've cc'd -dev so please respond to this email to that list.

I will take responsibility for BLFS being so out-of-date. HAL was my
very next update to do before things have just gone crazy in my life.

I own many tickets, most of which I had full intentions of doing these
updates until things in my life (which are all good, by the way) have
changed. I know that DJ has personal ongoings as well, as he took the
GNOME ticket a *long* time ago, but there's been no development. I fully
understand.

I cannot promise that I can contribute to BLFS development, but I would
love to stay on as Editor. I review each post to -book. I comment when
necessary. In the regard of pure Editor, I believe I can handle that
role, but some of you may look at the Editor should also be a contributor
as well.

I'm willing to discuss my role as Editor of the book, if there is concern
in the community. Again, I cannot promise that I can contribute as an
active developer. I will try and recruit as many new editors as possible.

Again, I'd love to stay on in the role of Editor. I can review each post
to -book, and I can do the release tasks, should we ever release another
version. I hope that we do.

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Re: TeXLive ?

2009-05-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote:

 Did someone make a TeXLive step by step guide for BLFS ?

I installed TeXLive in my last BLFS installation but I've not
updated the book yet. It was some time ago, but if I recall, it
was not that difficult. I don't have the machine on that has my
installation script, but I'll see if I can't fire it up later on
today and post my script.

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Re: /usr/share/info/dir in which 2.20 install

2009-03-04 Thread Randy McMurchy
Resending due to the server outage this morning. Sorry if it turns
out to be a duplicate.

Ryan Isaacs wrote these words on 03/04/09 00:18 CST:
 Thanks to using the fakeroot approach, I noticed
 there is a /usr/share/info/dir file being
 installed by which 2.20 following the BLFS
 current development instructions. It looks to me
 like this dir file with a single entry (for
 which) would replace the current dir file with
 all my current info entries.
 Is this the case? If so, should this be fixed in
 the BLFS instructions to avoid losing the info
 directory?

I'm not really sure what you're saying, especially the part about the
fakeroot approach, but the which package uses install-info to install
the .info file just as it should. There is nothing to fix.

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Re: GPM in Version svn-20090225

2009-02-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ryan Isaacs wrote these words on 02/26/09 00:22 CST:
 Hi, in the installation instructions for GPM 1.20.6 in the current
 development version of BLFS, I believe there is an extraneous
 destdir string in the install command for the doc directory.

Thanks for the report, I'm fixing it right now. That's one of the
pitfalls of using a DESTDIR style installation for my own builds.
I have to be real careful cut and pasting.

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Re: different shadow vs. in lfs-6.4 and blfs-6.3

2009-02-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Chris Staub wrote these words on 02/16/09 20:19 CST:
 Vitorio Okio wrote:
 I built my very first LFS following the latest stable LFS-6.4 book. 
 Correspondingly I installed Shadow-4.1.2.1 version.

 Now I've started working with BLFS book and it contains instructions for 
 re-installing (after PAM installation) only for Shadow-4.0.18.1 (the SVN 
 book version as well).  

 BLFS 6.3 generally does not work with LFS 6.4 - the versions need to 
 match. Since there is not yet a BLFS 6.4, you need to use BLFS Development.

Thanks, Chris. And gladly, I managed to get PAM and Shadow updated
in the Development book. Though the Shadow version is updated from
LFS, it is only security bug fixes, so I felt I had to update the
version.

Typically, LFS and BLFS versions of matching packages will be the same
version, however, in this case BLFS is more recent but will work just
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Re: HAL vs autofs vs ? - need some tips

2009-01-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Scott wrote:
 Well, with a Monk-ish abhorrence of an unanswered thread, I'll answer
 my own question: 

Well, I'd say Dan gave an excellent effort in trying to help you.
Why would you say unanswered thread?

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Re: when does sudo and sudoers get created?

2008-12-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ralph Porter wrote:
 I must have missed a step.  I do not have /usr/bin/sudo or /etc/sudoers
 
 What step has this install?

See BLFS.

(hint: Chapter 4 - Security)

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was actually installing without scrollkeeper and was using
 --disable-scrollkeeper which allowed configure to run through and the
 error was the same on the book version of 2.18.3 and 2.18.4 so seems even
 tho scrollkeeper is optional on some stages it really isn't on gdm even
 though you can disable it and on gdm itself it doesn't state it needs
 scrollkeeper on the book anyway but in configure it does, guess i'll go
 give it a try with scrollkeeper installed

Replying for the archives, as I want to clarify how the
dependencies work.

Actually, following the BLFS book, ScrollKeeper is not optional.
It is a recommended dependency of GNOME Doc Utils which is
required for GDM. There is even a note attached to the GDU
instructions that says you *can* install GDU without ScrollKeeper
but you will be missing required functionality.

So, the BLFS staff expects ScrollKeeper to be installed when you
begin the installation of GDM. Dependencies (required by another
dependency) are not mentioned again for the sake of redundancy.

Hopefully, this clarifies the issue of on gdm itself it doesn't
state it needs scrollkeeper on the book anyway but in configure it
does.

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Re: ESP Ghostscript-8.15.4 broken without X?

2008-10-19 Thread Randy McMurchy
Michael Brandstetter wrote these words on 10/19/08 02:37 CST:

 Do not apply this sed command and the build will run fine. 
 
 sed -i s/bbox.dev$/x11.dev/ Makefile.in
 
 Without this the esp package will use the default bbox.dev and that is ok 
 for systems without X.

Good catch. This needs to be changed in the SVN book and an
errata added to the stable book. I'll make a ticket.

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Re: Installing HAL

2008-10-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Scott Castaline wrote:
  [snip total confusion :-)]

I'll try and be helpful without sounding condescending.

First. You need to get a handle on what packages do, and
why they are dependencies of one-another. For example,
Doxygen is only used to create API documentation. Chances
are, you don't even need it.

Without knowing *why* a package is a dependency, you'll
be asking questions until the cows come home.

Next. Most circular dependencies in BLFS are annotated
one way or another. There are actually very few. Read
the dependencies *carefully*. Examine what each one does,
and how/why it could benefit your installation. If you
don't understand what a package does by reading the stuff
in BLFS or the stuff on the home page of the package,
chances are you don't need it.

Next. I build X right off the bat. Expat, then FreeType
and Fontconfig, then X (hopefully, I'm not leaving something
out). The dependencies for X are very straightforward.

As far as D-Bus/Hal, it really isn't that hard. If I
remember correctly, there may be a circular dependency, but
only for a package that you may not need. I can't recall,
and don't have time to go through the BLFS book right now.

Use your good judgment, but above all know *why* you are
installing each and every package. Simply going through
the book blindly installing packages won't give you the
knowledge you could get by understanding *what* each package
does.

Finally, know that you can always go back and install a
package again if you later discover you left off a
dependency you wish you had installed. It is a learning
process. If that learning process is not *fun* to you, you
may consider simply going back to a distro.


 Also I have 4.8 GB left 
 on my drive, will that be enough or should I now plan on making more room?

I know it would not be near enough for me. But I keep all
source files, and all logs (I don't keep source trees). I
usually end up using around 10MB of space for a full BLFS
build. But I'm a BLFS dev and I try to install most dependencies
simply so I can document and check them out. I don't necessarily
use all of them.

Keep in mind that if you're going to do any video/audio
processing work, or creating DVD's, you'll need much, much
more space.

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Re: Login Security

2008-10-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote:

 The pam system's administrator guide is very helpful.
 
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/Linux-PAM_SAG.html
 
 The module pages and some general pam information are available as man
 pages. See pam(8) and pam_unix(8). The pam_unix page even has a usable
 example configuration.
 
 That said, pam is pretty complex. What has helped me besides reading
 the documentation is looking at the configuration on the big distros.
 Since they're distributing to a wide variety of users and settings,
 they usually have a secure but usable setup. If you have another
 system around (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.), take a look at their login and
 passwd settings.

Sorry to quote Dan's whole post but it is relevant. Thing that
bothers me is that the PAM .so stack that BLFS currently uses
is deprecated. Seems creating and using a system-auth (or
perhaps auth-system; can't remember) module and config file is
the way to go now.

I installed PAM yesterday, and Shadow now installs a set of
/etc/pam.d files that will lock up the system (of course, I
tried to login before doing anything further, as instructed
by the BLFS book). This of course is using most recent Shadow
and PAM.

Anyway, I had to delete all the /etc/pam.d files that Shadow
installed and add the files specified by the BLFS book. We've
got a lot of work ahead on this one.

I'm updating LFS to the most recent Shadow, so BLFS will have
to follow. And the instructions will need to change. Anyone
with some relevant experience with these newer Shadow and PAM
packages should step up and let themselves known. :-)

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Re: Roland Puntaier ist außer Haus.

2008-08-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
michael lang wrote:
 Ich hab keine ahnung auf was du meinst. Kann Sie uns es erklären warum 
 Sie dieser text nach ein mailinglist hinüber Linux schickt.
 
 
 On 18/08/2008, *Roland Puntaier* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ich werde ab 18.08.2008 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am
 30.08.2008.

Bitte sollten die Nachrichten auf dieser Liste in der englischen
Sprache gesandt werden.

(Please, the messages on this list should be sent in the English
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Re: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 Segmentation Fault

2008-08-01 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan McGhee wrote:
 I compiled and built Thunderbird, on my laptop, in accordance with the 
 instructions in BLFS-svn-20080712.  There were no errors.  When I try to 
 run it as root, I get:
 
 /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.12/run-mozilla.sh line 131: 2134 Segmentation 
 fault prog ${1+ $@}
 [snip]
 I use the more_control package system.

For starters, I would build the package according to the
book and without the package system. And just in case you
are, I would not use any custom optimizations either.

If you can confirm there are no problems when building
by the book (no package management), and it runs properly,
then I'd start looking into the PM problem. At least you
would have narrowed down to the PM.

That's what I'd do anyway. I'm no guru with strace or
gdb, so I can't really help there. Perhaps Dan or someone
else will see your message and be of more help.

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