Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
The full-time developers need to be paid but the ones that make their money doing other work and do part-time development are another story. That's how linux got where it is today. The payment the linux developers got and get is they often learn more about programming doing their linux

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Liam Erven
A lot of my time has been spent teaching lately, but I would still love to develop some new games. Most likely they will be for windows, but I will never rule out mobile devices. I know there’s a huge market for mobile games. > On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:46 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: > > Liam: I

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread mattias
liam why not mac games? Den 3 april 2023 18:16:40 skrev "Liam Erven" : A lot of my time has been spent teaching lately, but I would still love to develop some new games. Most likely they will be for windows, but I will never rule out mobile devices. I know there’s a huge market for mobile

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Dennis L
Well get busy lol. Seriously it would be awesome if you developed again. -Original Message- From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 12:16 PM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately? A lot of my time has been

[blind-gamers] MLB the show 23 is it accessible?

2023-04-03 Thread Dennis L
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Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Charles Rivard
Just FYI, I did not send my monetary difficulties to start one of those pitty parties. I did so to let those who always harp on “Just save money” realize that their suggestion is not part of some of our “real worlds”. The response of “Just save money”, in my opinion, is heartless, uncaring,

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Justin Jones
I agree with Charles. Game development is both time-consuming and expensive. There is a lot more that goes into it than people might think. People that develop games are entitled to financial compensation if they decide to sell their product. On 4/3/23, Charles Rivard wrote: > Why does it

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread mattias
exactly they maybe have some memberships for some audio archives etc etc and maybe some web host membership Den 3 april 2023 17:26:25 skrev "Justin Jones" : I agree with Charles. Game development is both time-consuming and expensive. There is a lot more that goes into it than people might

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Charles Rivard
Why does it matter what they do in the way of work? I would consider it like having a second job that may or may not provide a large monetary gain. If they create or modify games as a sideline, why should they not ge paid? If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Charles Rivard
Liam: I agree with you. Why shouldn't game developers be paid for their work? What else they to with their time, or the income earned by doing what they do with their time, is irrelevant. Speaking of games, are you still developing them? I'm sure that we could all use some fairly

Re: [blind-gamers] MLB the show 23 is it accessible?

2023-04-03 Thread Liam Erven
The short answer is no. From what I have been told, they have not done anything this year to improve access. Supposedly there has been a redesign on some audio, but I don’t think that will translate into anything usable for us. So much for this being a short answer.On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:18 AM,

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Liam Erven
Whether a developer is full time or not is relevant Everyone should be compensated for their time if they so choose. > On Apr 3, 2023, at 3:48 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > The full-time developers need to be paid but the ones that make their > money doing other work and do part-time

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Dennis L
I agree as well. It is time consuming. People need to realize that. -Original Message- From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Justin Jones Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 11:26 AM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately? I agree with Charles. Game

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Many end users pick the wrong distribution for themselves and run into a bad learning curve then give up. Those of us who have been using Linux for a while know not to ever recommend Gentoo to new users. Other easier options exist. Linux is very popular although not necessarily with the home

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
Yes but then why isn't linux more popular?  It's got a lot of wonderful qualities but it's not as intuitive or easy for a new end user to use.  There are developers for windows machines, smartphones and so on that do have free games, even for amazon echo devices, google devices and so on. 

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Heather Seaman
Chocolate teapot!! I like that _expression_ Simon. I haven't heard it before; thaoks for using it. On Apr 3, 2023 12:19 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote: I agree, people who come out with trash like that are about as helpful as the proverbial chocolate teapot.   Simon     -

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
Agreed.  I do a part time job and get paid for it.  I also do volunteer stuff.  So I accept that some games might be ree and some will be paid.  People pay for card games, board games, etc. so why should we expect all computer or phone games to be free? Marda On 4/3/2023 10:17 AM, Charles

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
Agreed.  I do a part time job and get paid for it.  I also do volunteer stuff.  So I accept that some games might be ree and some will be paid.  People pay for card games, board games, etc. so why should we expect all computer or phone games to be free? Marda On 4/3/2023 10:17 AM, Charles

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
It matters when a first job is used to support other work since that first job may or eventually may not make it possible to support additional work. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Tyler Wood
Hi,I do fully agree that getting Linux experience is incredibly easy and there are multiple ways. Spinning up a digital ocean instance for a few cents to try command line or installing it on a virtual machine, or even running the live cd/USBG thumb drive. I will say I have run into other issues. 

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
That's because you think the only screen reader in linux is orca. That's wrong. Running on console, espeak, espeak-ng, brltty, emacspeak, sbl and fenrir, yasr, are available. Before orca, other screen readers for the gui existed but they're deprecated now. It could be in a little while another

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Slint is the international version of slackware and it updated this year to version 15.0. Slint for screen reader users whether you use console or gui is especially useful since the first question your sound card asks you is if you want speech for the installation when slint boots. Slackware

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
Yes.  It's just like an author or musician or other artist that puts time and talent and work into their products and they deserve compensation for it.  as a musician I sometimes perform for free. other times I am paid.  When i am doing it as a profession, as part of making my living, and when

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
I have heard similar things about orca.  Are there other linux screen readers?  Seems like I heard something about them but not sure. Marda On 4/3/2023 9:36 PM, Tyler Wood wrote: Hi, I do fully agree that getting Linux experience is incredibly easy and there are multiple ways. Spinning up

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Tyler Wood
This is fantastic to hear, I had no idea these console based readers existed. I’ll have to give these a shot inn a vm at some point.Yes, I’m aware  most of the grunt work in Linux is via command line. I’ve been very slowly learning to script so I can keep my fingers in tact  I typically ssh into

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
Well I am aware of linux's roles in those areas but was speaking as an end user who is not tech savvy.  I used to have a frfiend (we have since lost touch) who did a lot with programming in linux environments and with screen readers for it and all that but when I was referring to popularity I

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Travis Siegel
Yeah, fair, but there's too many people that say they have no experience with linux, then come up with some silly reason why this is so.  Linux is free, it runs on just about any pc or device you can think of, and it's been around longer than windows 95. Anyone who actually wants to have

Re: [blind-gamers] Games expensive lately?

2023-04-03 Thread Marda
Very interesting and thought provoking message.  I have a friend who used to be very involved with linux in the early days.  He was also involved with unix systems and many other things and now works for a company that uses windows so he's using that.  I think he might be interested in getting