Re: [BlindHandyMan] More floor bore

2007-04-24 Thread carl
you don't like anything easy doe you lol grin - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] More floor bore So, this weekend Teresa and I had long protracted argu .. discussions

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dis jointed email messages.

2007-04-24 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Robert, Yahoo has been doing this all over the place. I moderate another group, and a couple of the messages that have come through have been disjointed also. A friend of mine happened to mention that the disjointing happened at points where computer Braille translates the words. A good

[BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Scott Howell
Folks, My wife and I have been giving some thought to tearing out the carpet in the hall that leads to the backyard. The reason is that although we're careful to clean the dogs paws, they still dirty the carpet to some degree. We were thinking of a wood-type flooring since tile just

Re: [BlindHandyMan] More floor bore

2007-04-24 Thread spiro
that door non equation sounds familiar. but otherwise agree with this guy. On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, carl wrote: you don't like anything easy doe you lol grin - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:20 PM Subject:

RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Scott, Another thing you might want to think about is the fact that come rain or winter weather, that floor is going to get pretty slippery, so I think you're going to have to put in some kind of foot/shoe/paw clean-up surface in that area after you've installed the smooth flooring. Maybe

[BlindHandyMan] Re: hitting the ceiling

2007-04-24 Thread Sarah
I wish I had gotten rid of my popcorn ceiling before I moved into this house. I looked into having it done, and it is possible to save the sheetrock. There are companies that will come in and do it. The spray a chemical onto the ceiling that makes it turn loose, then the scrape it all off.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dis jointed email messages.

2007-04-24 Thread John Schwery
No problem, here. earlier, Jewel Blanch, wrote: Robert! I think that your computer is playing silly buggers! Dan's bhm posts are coming to my address in a perfectly legible form. Jewel - Original Message - From: Robert J. Moore To:

RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread William Stephan
I don't think dog nails are going to damage hard wood all that much, particularly if they're kept reasonably short. We have three dogs and a cat, and hard wood floors except for in the kitchen, and it doesn't seem to be an issue here. -Original Message- From:

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread David Ferrin
Cliff, I've seen those kits and agree that they are ideal for the ladies in that they are compact and light enough, not bulky like most tool kits we're accustomed to dealing with. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart

[BlindHandyMan] thank you all for visiting the handy man files page

2007-04-24 Thread David Ferrin
I just checked the hit counter and was surprised to see it at 2920 total hits in 11 months. Obviously somebody is making use of that resource, so as far as I can tell it's worth maintaining at this time. Also I'd like to thank Max again for help with the rewrite back in the fall. I'm trying to

RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Donnie Parrett
Hey Victor, Is one grain of salt all we are allowed to have? Suppose we like pepper instead? How many grains of pepper could we take for this bit of advice? Grin! Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church #

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Jo Taliaferro
Dear Ray, As a woman, I am trying hard not to feel insulted by your post about a general tool kit for women, wives, girlfriends or moms. I want a metal kit with a handle and I want a gift certificate to go pick out my own stuff. I do not claim to know how to do everything but I have done many

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread Jo Taliaferro
Hi Clifford and all, Great idea for a starter kit!! So...why are you messing in HER tool kit when you have your own??? Grin!! Can I mess with your giant workbench, then? lol. Jo and Cookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or

[BlindHandyMan] glue remover

2007-04-24 Thread carl
what is this tool i'v never heard of it a glue remover for me is a bit of 40 grit sand paper when the glue has set email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link

RE: [BlindHandyMan] conserve water

2007-04-24 Thread Larry Stansifer
Or just take a shower with a friend... *hahaha* Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:40 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] conserve

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dis jointed email messages.

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Fowle
Dan, Gee whiz, I didn't know you had such a mean streak! GRIN That last one looked fine but I've never been able to understand any other email you've ever sent Large Grin! Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Fowle
At least this male, somewhat sortof handyman, also thinks it's more than time to stop pointing such simple toolkits at women. Not that there isn't a place for simple, light weight, basic kits, it is just that that place has nothing to do with sex, sexual preference, planet of origin, guide dog

RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Boop
Victor wrote: In the last couple of months, Boop wrote in that she installed cork flooring. I think this might be the way to go for you. We didn't install cork flooring, we are in the process of covering 55 year old cork floor. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend cork floor for this

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread carl
too trew for exhample i'v had a request from a lady to teach hear wood turning s - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house At least this male,

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fancy shmancy saw guide.

2007-04-24 Thread mark
i had used this guide in the past meaning a few months ago and it does work great the only thing i found wrong was the price for a few peices of plastic it is quite costly last i remember it was around 200.00 or so for a 100 inch cutting guide - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi

Re: [BlindHandyMan] thank you all for visiting the handy man files page

2007-04-24 Thread Max Robinson
Thanks David. Glad to do it. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dis jointed email messages.

2007-04-24 Thread Max Robinson
Dan, you are evil. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Boop
Jo said: As a woman, I am trying hard not to feel insulted by your post about a general tool kit for women, wives, girlfriends or moms. I totally agree Jo. I read the stuff in this list and thought, I use REAL tools, thank you very much. A couple of the things were: * Wrench:

[BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
Locally, we are having our driest year ever recorded. I am trying to figure out a way to run the water from my washer to my garden. Thirty years ago, when I lived in the desert, I had a rigid industrial hose to do this. But when I moved to the coast, that hose stayed in the desert. A couple of

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread cliffwilson
own??? Grin!! Can I mess with your giant workbench, then? lol. Jo and Cookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2215 (20070424) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been

RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Dan Rossi
Ray, Good thing you are down under, or else your down unders might be in jeopardy from the sounds of it. Give Ray a break, he's an Aussie. Isn't Australia the land where the men are real men and the sheep are real scared? Wait, that's Scotland. Australia is where women glow and men plunder.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Rob Monitor
Aren't we getting a little touchy for here... - Original Message - From: Boop To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman Jo said: As a woman, I am trying hard not to feel insulted by

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Rob Monitor
Hi, How about using some PVC pipe and at the end of the run you get the PVC with holes in it so the water will go out on the ground... - Original Message - From: tunecollector To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan]

RE: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
the hose. As it is now, the water drains into the garage wash basin. The washer is at least 50 feet from the garden. Any suggestions? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ NOD32 2215 (20070424) Information

Re: [BlindHandyMan] glue remover

2007-04-24 Thread Jo Taliaferro
I like the sand paper idea but not for getting Crazy Glue off my hands. I think it's a solution you can buy that helps get the stuff off your fingers...like nail polish remover...if you use that! Jo and Cookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Brice Mijares
Also, you may see if it's against the law to run gray lines in your state. Gray lines use to be legal here in California, but if I'm not mistaking, it's now against the law. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread John Schwery
I encourage my wife to use power tools. I have had her using our drills, table saw, router, planer among other tools. She likes using them. earlier, Jo Taliaferro, wrote: Dear Ray, As a woman, I am trying hard not to feel insulted by your post about a general tool kit for women, wives,

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread David Sexton
is at least 50 feet from the garden. Any suggestions? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ NOD32 2215 (20070424) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

RE: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
Also, you may see if it's against the law to run gray lines in your state. Gray lines use to be legal here in California, but if I'm not mistaking, it's now against the law. __ NOD32 2215 (20070424) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Ray Boyce
Hi Dan It was meant to create dialog and discussion and a tool kit that women could put together to tackle jobs around the home, however if some women have taken offence to this message then they have misunderstood my meaning entirely. I posted an article some time ago that in fact because

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Scott Howell
Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions and especially with respect to a slip issue. Got some things to consider and certainly some form of rug etc. might be good as a runner and it would give us what we want, provide some safety, and ease of cleaning. So, great thoughts and

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Fowle
Back in the late 70s when we had a big drought here, I just removed the trap from the garage sink, capped the sewer line with an appropriate pipe cap, and put fittings from the sink drain to garden hose size. Then ran a garden hose out maybe 20 feet to the dry soil. At that time I had no

RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
and appreciate them. Scott Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:s.howell%40verizon.net __ NOD32 2216 (20070424) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html

RE: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
. The washer is at least 50 feet from the garden. Any suggestions? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ NOD32 2215 (20070424) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Jennifer Jackson
What about some rain barrels with hose attachments. Then you can hook up the hose and water when needed. Jennifer - Original Message - From: Rob Monitor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water Hi,

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Fowle
Can't help with crossing the walkway, but you don't want to add load to the outlet hose, as in having to push through the pipe, you want to use the garage sink as a flow control device, kind of like a capacitor that the washer charges up quickly and the slower flow through the hose, pipe etc.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Fowle
Dan, Of course, kidding obviously I hope. Now where is it the women are strong and the men are good looking? Was it Pitsburgh GRIN and all the blind people are nearly above average! Poor Ray, I'm sure he didn't mean it at all, and he's quivvering in his mucklucks. Tom To listen to the show

Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread Ray Boyce
Hi Clifford That is exactly what my message was meant to create discussion on finding a general purpose tool kit. Ray - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit

[BlindHandyMan] leatherman

2007-04-24 Thread carl
i'm looking for a leatherman is thair anything to look for or anything to avoied? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Brice Mijares
You can also go to a pool supply, and buy some real flexible inch and a half hose that is used for back washing the filter. After using it, it will flatten out and you can roll it up. and store it where ever you want near to where it's hooked up. I think I paid somewhere around a dollar a

RE: [BlindHandyMan] leatherman

2007-04-24 Thread Larry Stansifer
All of the Leather man tools are of good quality so just buy the one that fit's your needs, and don't attempt to board any commercial airline flights with it on your person. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Don
Larry, out standing post here, you just can't have enough good tools. Don - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman Ladies, I was

RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread John Schwery
Larry, what is a leather man multi-tool? earlier, Larry Stansifer, wrote: Ladies, I was trying really hard not to jump in on this one but here goes. Avoid buying one of those one size fit's all plastic tool kits filled with what somebody else thinks you need. First of all take yourself down to

[BlindHandyMan] leatherman

2007-04-24 Thread carl
whair can i get them i carn't get them in the uk is thair some whair in the us that wil send to the uk and can you pay too mutch for one? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives

RE: [BlindHandyMan] leatherman

2007-04-24 Thread Larry Stansifer
Please punctuate: I don't understand what you are asking. Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of carl Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:16 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread David Sexton
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread Larry Stansifer
Oh GOD... Mom how do I explain this one... A leather Man multi-tool is the next evolution of the Swiss Army Knife. They contain a pair of pliers, a series of serrated, pointed and blunt tip knife blades, a file, colmon and Philips screw driver tips, can opener, bottle opener *particularly handy

Re: [BlindHandyMan] glue remover

2007-04-24 Thread Max Robinson
The family of glues known variously as super glue or crazy glue are soluble in acetone. That is the principle ingredient in nail polish remover but you can get a quart for a couple of dollars at the hardware store. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site

RE: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
suggestions? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ NOD32 2215 (20070424) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com http://www.eset.com http://www.eset.com http

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Max Robinson
Tom. That's quite a switch. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Jewel Blanch
Much as I approve of using grey water for the garden, I have to issue this warning. Be careful of what sort of detergent you use in the laundry as some of the brands will harm the soil and the plants that grow therein. Jewel - Original Message - From: Rob Monitor To:

Re: [BlindHandyMan] leatherman

2007-04-24 Thread Max Robinson
Will someone please educate the uneducated. What is a leatherman. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes

RE: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Larry Stansifer
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] tool kit for the lady of the house

2007-04-24 Thread Richard Sherman
Hi, the other day the news ran a story about how the greatest increase in do it yourself'ers was women and how the tool industry has been making new tools specifically geared towards women. I don't see any reason for both to go shopping for a tool kit just for her. Rich - Original

Re: [BlindHandyMan] hitting the ceiling

2007-04-24 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
We have the same junk on our ceiling. Since our home is 26 years old, we were warned that it may contain aspestus. One suggestion was to cover the whole mess with a hanging ceiling. Haven't done anything about it yet. Betsy At 12:35 AM 4/24/2007, you wrote: My little trophy wife wants to

Re: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread cheetah
the hardware store sells sump pump hose thats about an inch and a half or so and you can make adapters to what ever size you need. i think i got about 30 feet for about $10. it is pretty lite and easy to handle jim At 02:07 PM 4/24/2007, you wrote: Locally, we are having our driest year ever

RE: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit for your handywoman

2007-04-24 Thread John Schwery
Larry, thanks. Makes sense. earlier, Larry Stansifer, wrote: Oh GOD... Mom how do I explain this one... A leather Man multi-tool is the next evolution of the Swiss Army Knife. They contain a pair of pliers, a series of serrated, pointed and blunt tip knife blades, a file, colmon and Philips

Re: [BlindHandyMan] hitting the ceiling

2007-04-24 Thread Dale Alton
Why couldn't you just take your dry wall sander and sand it off? Dale - Original Message - From: tunecollector To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:35 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hitting the ceiling My little trophy wife wants to scrape off the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit For Your Wife or Girlfriend.

2007-04-24 Thread Dale Alton
The way I see it my girlfriend can go downstairs just as easy as I can and grab a tool out of the tool box. Dale - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] A Tool Kit For Your Wife or

RE: [BlindHandyMan] hitting the ceiling

2007-04-24 Thread tunecollector
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Kevin Doucet
Hi, Is this Konecto flooring ok to put directly over concrete? Thanks. At 02:09 PM 4/24/2007 -0400, you wrote: Victor wrote: In the last couple of months, Boop wrote in that she installed cork flooring. I think this might be the way to go for you. We didn't install cork flooring, we are in

RQuestione: [BlindHandyMan] gray water

2007-04-24 Thread Gerry Mack
In my wife's e-mail last Saturday there was a message concerning a workshop about house maintainance somewhere in Wisconsin. Does any one have any information about this workshop? Gerry To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or

Re: [BlindHandyMan] hitting the ceiling

2007-04-24 Thread Dale Alton
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] tough flooring

2007-04-24 Thread Boop
I'm pretty sure it can be installed on concrete, but I would ask the dealer first. It is a floating type floor. Boop Is this Konecto flooring ok to put directly over concrete? To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or

RE: [BlindHandyMan] leatherman

2007-04-24 Thread Jim Ruby
And they are usually very durable, better then some of the others out there. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jewel Blanch Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:47 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] leatherman Max!