I wish I had gone to the 802.11wg more regularly than I did. I only
gave one bloat related presentation in 2014, shipped the
make-wifi-fast code in 2016(?), and never went back. IETF ate all my
money and time. I just assumed they were all in the slipstream of
linux and openwrt. :/
I did have a
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Date: Wed, May 1, 2024, 8:13 AM
Subject: [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class
To: , , <
pet...@infradead.org>, , ,
, , , <
mgor...@suse.de>, , , <
a...@kernel.org>, , , <
martin@kernel.org>, , , <
I did my usual bufferbloat rap on this pretty excellent podcast. What
I am most proud of however,
was showing off my mom´s art in this segment here, including her most
powerful piece "Sad Sam".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg=1098s
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Date: Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: network simulator for service provider
To:
On 4/3/24 04:13, aun Joe wrote:
is there anysi network simulator for carrier networks ?
well, from 2023 to 2024 there happes so many
quic takes over
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Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 12:23 PM
Subject: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/5] net: In-kernel QUIC implementation
with Userspace handshake
To: network dev
Cc: , , Eric Dumazet
, Paolo Abeni , Steve French
, Namjae Jeon , Chuck Lever
It is amazing how many different ways people can do themselves in with
knobs. In this case there was an off-by-1000 error in calculating the
fq_codel target and interval.
https://forum.vyos.io/t/what-kind-of-performance-should-be-expected-when-applying-fq-codel-on-a-shaper-policy/13841
But I am
t 11:08 PM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> a little seo might help:
>
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39533800
>
> --
> https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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a little seo might help:
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I totally did not remember writing this piece about the bufferbloat
projects' history (vs a vs mikrotik the then pending mikrotik
deployment) before now.
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=181289
I have had several people encourage me to write a book, but I fear
only 300 people would
I think this is a very encouraging paper. The 6 stages required to do
this tho...
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10329918
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also your investigation showed me a probably bug in cake's
gso-splitting. thanks!
However, after capturing the how as you just have, deeper
understanding the effects on the network itself of this stuff would be
great.
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:54 AM Michael Welzl via Bloat
wrote:
>
> Dear all,
Thank you as well. Lacking source code, and them using copa, I was
dubious about digging any deeper. It also did not appear they
understood the dynamics of slow start very well, although I
appreciated them hitting it with IW10 bursts.
It also seemed that they were doing inbound shaping rather
I hope the "unglitching the net" talk gains a good audience. For those
that have not signed up for today: https://sotn24.sched.com/
More fuel for the fire:
https://blog.apnic.net/2024/02/12/unbloating-the-buffers/
Elsewhere, Oleg just tore down and tested the latest gen4 starlink
dishy in
nice to see someone looking at slow start finally. Hilarious that they
do not call it by name. Slow start overshoot I have been now harping
on for a decade...
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 12:05 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat
wrote:
>
> This looks interesting: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.18030.pdf
And I still have never seen anyone give me a packet capture of juniper
or cisco´s red
implementation.
https://lkml.kernel.org/netdev/caa93jw7wal75pvrb-q+xgacpqtizz4ivw0z2w9e8vgsyufo...@mail.gmail.com/
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ys of improving slow start by varying it. I
hope more enlightenment spreads, and your attempt to document it
improves.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uXnPDcVBKmg5krkG5wYBgaA2yLSFK_kZa7xGDWc7XU/edit#heading=h.7624xn94jzf6
>
>
> > On 7 Feb 2024, at 13:05, Dave Taht wrote:
> >
&g
Dear Michael:
Thank you for digging deeply into packet pacing, TSQ, etc. I think
there are some interesting new possibilities in probing (especially
during slow start) that could make the core idea even more effective
than it is. I also tend to think that attempting it in various cloudy
https://www.measurementlab.net/blog/feb24-community-call/#how-should-internet-quality-be-measured
I am not going to be able to attend, methinks.
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I would love to meet with mediatek, myself.
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To: TWNOG Program Committee
Cc: North American Network Operators Group
Dear all,
I'm writing
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To: discuss
Hi everyone,
I hope your New Year is off to a good start! Writing to
The cake mailing list is more appropriate for this question, but as it
has not come up much before, I figured I would attempt to answer it.
In general, FQ and AQM technologies are more resistant to simple
floods and even DDOS attacks than a FIFO. Starting with FQ first,
a single DOS (or
Apparently there was a bug that prevented the fq_codel module from
being loaded, leading to:
"Change default TCP queue discipline to fq_codel to address missing
patch in SLES 15SP4. This is intended to address many of the
communication failures larger scale jobs are experiencing."
From:
this version of this song might have legs
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From: Don Hopkins via Internet-history
Date: Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 1:14 PM
Subject: [ih] Baby's Got Bufferbloat
To: Jim Gettys , Mitch Bradley
,
Sir Mux-A-Lot - Baby Got Bufferbloat (Official Music Video)
With
, and a wild experimentalist in on
*their* paper... and someone that is occasionally good with a ringing
phrase or two... please contact me privately. I am just terrible with
TeX.
On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 3:00 PM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> This CFP looks pretty good to me: https://tma.ifip.org/202
This was quite excellent, and did go into a delay based controller a bit.
https://www.meetecho.com/blog/bwe-janus/
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On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:45 AM Kenneth Porter via Bloat
wrote:
>
> I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on
> colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years
> ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas
> City. We also ran
This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues,
behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things.
https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-internet-packages-ericsson
In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a
slow start.
>
>
>
> Thank you again for your valuable comments, which have given us a deeper
> understanding of network optimization and for our future researches. Wishing
> you a happy new year!
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Li
>
>
>
>
>
>
on if implemented at a
> single end-node delivers "better" numbers for that end-node but also on its
> effect on the rest of the network).**
>
> **) I occasionally wish for a tit-for-tat scheduler that is generous at first
> but will "retaliate" if a flow abuses tha
I am very happy to be seeing various advances in slow start techniques.
If you are interested in AI's interactions with networks, this was a
very good talk.
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Date: Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 7:57 AM
Subject: [NetDev-People] 0x17: Keynote Video up
To: people
Cc: , Kimberley Jeffries
, Ricardo Coelho
,
I am very pleased with all the talks given so far in the understanding
latency conference (I hope many of you are attending?), so much so
that I no longer know what to say wednesday morning. I wanted to wax
philosophical, and look forward to a brighter future next year... and
I enjoyed
This CFP looks pretty good to me: https://tma.ifip.org/2024/call-for-papers/
Because:
¨To further encourage the results’ faithfulness and avoid publication
bias, the conference will particularly encourage negative results
revealed by novel measurement methods or vantage points. All regular
I do not anticipate any further major changes, although comments remain welcome!
Just add your name, what you are known for, country, and email address
via comment here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit
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> > deadline, with as many signatures as possible, and do PR later.
> >
> > gofundme link: https://gofund.me/c1f3ad18
> >
> > PS I would also like to thank "robert" for throwing in $250 (via other
> > means), although I am not sur
PS I would also like to thank "robert" for throwing in $250 (via other
means), although I am not sure if he was throwing in to keep the flent
fleet alive or this effort.
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 4:42 AM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> This is so drafty that normally I would not be distrib
Donations to the core bufferbloat effort are at an all time low,
$832.00/month. [1]
I am presently also in the process of finalizing a response to a FCC
NOI for which I will conduct another funding (and signature!) drive
later this week. It is due December 1, and I hope to start circulating
a
The first tool I whip out when someone proposes replacing something
(like dnsmasq, or a custom codebase) is to apply something derived
from the cocomo model to add up what it took in terms of programmer
hours to write the existing thing in the first place. There was a fun
recent competition to see
Dear Joy:
good paper that extends the idea of zoom fatigue into something closer
to zoom-induced somnolence. Thanks for doing this kind of detailed
measurements!
I would be very interested in a study of brain activity while varying
latency alone as the variable for videoconferencing. One being
Aside from me pinning the start of the bubble closer to 1992 when
commercial activity was allowed, and M for ISPs at insane valuations
per subscriber by 1995 (I had co-founded an ISP in 93, but try as I
might I cannot remember if it peaked at 50 or 60x1 by 1996 (?) and
crashed by 97 (?)), this was
https://github.com/cilium/cilium/issues/29083
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From: Dave Taht
Date: Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 5:44 PM
Subject: 25 years of embedded linux based wifi and wireless routers
To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard
this time! , Greg Retkowski
I have been reflecting on the era we
First of a a series, apparently:
https://blog.webex.com/hybrid-work/how-latency-harms-collaboration/
Points to this study of videoconferencing latency's effects:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1071581914000287
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I am curious if anyone is testing BBRv3 through this now also?
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/628bd935bf709b13cada8065/62a7aeb32534669cbe15cf3b_BQN-TCPO-Performance.v3.pdf
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I carry around a gl.inet travel router with our stuff flashed on it.
If the conversation veers that way, I do a demo. I have upgraded two
out of 6 airbnbs so far. Cost me 30 bucks each. :)
I wish we could improve the airbnb speedtest. I have not tried it in a
while, but it did not test for bloat.
thank you! A packet capture, however, would be more revealing...
On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 12:44 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2023, at 21:01, Dave Taht wrote:
> >
> > netstat -I en0 -qq
>
> Here is a bit of output from macosx
50 AM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 11:17 AM Jonathan Morton
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 14 Oct, 2023, at 8:23 pm, Dave Taht wrote:
> > >
> > > I would really like someone with a fresh set of eyeballs to review the
> > > "c
I have a bit more hope for less than best effort congestion controls now.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10273209
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Anyone got a ps4 or ps5 and can take a packet capture at their router?
Dying to know if it is cubic or bbr in particular
https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/23/10/05/154219/sonys-high-bitrate-movie-service-is-now-available-on-ps5-and-ps4
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e can do with the
> limited information at hand, anything else needs additional information).
> What I think is elegant about flow-scheduling is that it taps into essential
> information for digital communications and hence is hard to exploit (hard,
> not impossible).
>
>
> &g
The increase in traffic volume here triggered a spamcop alert (when I
did reach out to all my existing lists),
automatically triggered a complaint, a 3 day holding period that I
ignored since it was just the one report, which then shutdown the
server we were on, until I managed to express fully to
https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/23/10/05/154219/sonys-high-bitrate-movie-service-is-now-available-on-ps5-and-ps4
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As I am taking time off from work to do this, I would very much
appreciate a few dollars thrown into this new gofundme to help, which
I called: “Technical input in Title II & Network Neutrality”. Please
donate AND share with others! I spent 6+ weeks last time to get 260+
people to agree on the
That is a really beautiful selection. In my case highly influential on
me were reading Ed Bernay's book on "public relations", Chomsky's
"Manufacturing Consent", and "The medium is the massage." Buckminster
Fullers enthusiasm for the future, and "Spaceship earth", also had a
big influence on me.
Sometimes I liken this debate about the internet, to 1906-era
partisans arguing about the right cures for syphilis. One side,
intoning with great authority: "Tinctures of mercury, yes a good dose
of mercury, is just what you need... " and the other side, insisting
that "Leeches, leeches will
I like to think, that as we defeated cholera, and designed water and septic
systems that just work, that engineers and scientists had successfully
informed policymakers of the right things to do - not always right, the
first time!
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I was really comforted at what appeared to me at least, to be a very
successful test of the USA emergency broadcast system. The alarms went
off in multiple places in the coffee shop in Santa Cruz within a few
seconds of each other, and while startled, everyone looked at the
message, and went back
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Date: Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 7:51 AM
Subject: [PATCH net-next 3/4] net_sched: sch_fq: add 3 bands and WRR scheduling
To: David S . Miller , Jakub Kicinski
, Paolo Abeni
Cc: Willem de Bruijn , Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
, Neal Cardwell , Jamal
can *enjoy* constructively disagreeing
with - and possibly mutual enlightenment will happen!
The list url is: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
Thank you all for being such a great crowd to hang with.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:35 AM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> Despite the sturm und d
(she died yesterday):
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=C6FFF484-16F1-4CC9-9836-F36446C3B33D
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 8:23 AM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> The starlink list was not originally cc´d and yet since I think this
> debate concerns that also, I h
The starlink list was not originally cc´d and yet since I think this
debate concerns that also, I have added the cc back. Carry on!
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 8:20 AM Sebastian Moeller via LibreQoS
wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> [I took the liberty to remove some individual address from the Cc, as I
>
$65 and full resolution
> video" for example. Or "100Mbps Net Neutral service". The secret DPI's
> QoE shaping is my main concern here, and where I think consumer protection
> needs to be pursued.
>
> Again however, I think that ISPs should be able to offer dedica
:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 2023, at 18:38, Dave Taht wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 11:25 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> please excuse a number of tangents below ;)
> >
> > It would be nice, i
I put it on hackernews: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694306
I too strongly support formal NN rules, and am in general, against
some but certainly not all of the title II regulation, and unlike
jason, perhaps, tend to want to supercede lawyers´ claims that it can
only be solved via legal
home routers and
CPE that are increasingly capable of doing the right thing.
The time to try and shift the memes in in the coming days, and weeks.
So ya'all being distracting below... aggh... ok, I'll bite.
>
>
> > On Sep 27, 2023, at 20:21, Dave Taht via Rpm
> > wrote:
> >
&
Dear Bob:
I have always thought the long standing dispute over moving flow
queuing (FQ) into the network has always been about enabling common
carriage for the vast majority of possible use cases for the internet
or not, going all the way back to the fights over it in 1989, and many
discussions
Jason just did a beautiful thread as to what was the original source
of the network neutrality
bittorrent vs voip bufferbloat blowup.
https://twitter.com/jlivingood/status/1707078242857849244
Seeing all the political activity tied onto it since (and now again)
reminds of two families at war
.org/pdfrfc/rfc970.txt.pdf
reply
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 2:18 PM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> This is possibly the first time the word bufferbloat has made the
> register. I hope it is not the last.
>
> Although the author called out van´s early work, he seems to have
> missed it was a
This is possibly the first time the word bufferbloat has made the
register. I hope it is not the last.
Although the author called out van´s early work, he seems to have
missed it was also van and kathie on codel, and he was also on the BBR
team.
What would have happened to the net without van?
transport area and congestion control... ceases to exist as a separate
wg in the ietf.
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Date: Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 1:09 PM
Subject: Result of Consultation on ART/TSV Area Reorganization
To: , IETF-Announce , Working
Group Chairs
Two
thoughtful piece here:
https://nickvsnetworking.com/mobile-ipv6-tax/
I wonder how much cell data we are billed for is useless retransmits and
timeouts, due to bloat, or just overhead traffic, as this fella points out.
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From: Abhiram Ravi
Date: Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 7:43 PM
Subject: [ippm] New Internet Draft: Congestion Signaling (CSIG)
To:
Cc: , Nandita Dukkipati , <
ic...@irtf.org>, Naoshad Mehta ,
Hi IPPM folks,
I am pleased to announce the publication of a new
Looks interesting. Jim Troutman in particular has a really nicely
structured partially BEAD funded project connecting New England and Canada.
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7092221645922152448/
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Very detailed paper on how gpon works:
https://www.nctatechnicalpapers.com/Paper/2022/FTF22_WLINE05_Sundaresan_3894/download
H/T sebastian
(a bit off topic for the starlink mailing list, I figure, but at least
gpon´s underlying behaviors and metrics are documented here)
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Pretty good piece:
https://blog.apnic.net/2023/08/22/striking-a-balance-in-fairness/
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latency and jitter,
purveyor of fq_codel and libreqos, sailor and tinkerer, the monsieur: Dave Taht.
Known for such FOSS hits like "It GPLs me", "The Mushroom management
song", and "One First Landing", amongst others, Mr. Taht may be
releasing a new song at 0x17!
Dave w
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From: Michael Welzl
Date: Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for
draft-herbert-tcp-in-udp-00.txt
To: Tom Herbert
Cc: tsvwg ,
Dear Tom, dear everyone else @ TSVWG,
I’m (somewhat obviously, if you see what I write
This cisco paper takes a hard look at some webex data with some new
tools. Worth reading.
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7098274920261902336/
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Date: Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 2:30 PM
Subject: [ippm] Document Action: 'Explicit Host-to-Network Flow
Measurements Techniques' to Informational RFC
(draft-ietf-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-07.txt)
To:
AM Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
> Hi Roland.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2023, at 10:48, Bless, Roland (TM) via Bloat
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > On 01.08.23 at 00:36 Dave Taht via Bloat wrote:
> >> Promising approach:
> >> https://ieeexpl
Dear Stephen:
Google gcc is a hybrid delay/loss webrtc protocol that is part of most
browsers today, and quite a few SFUs. It has been around since 2012 or
so. An RFC for it was started, here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-gcc-02
But as it grew to dominate the market,
GREAT to hear from you sean! (I added you as "accept" to the bloat
list, but did not subscribe you. You can subscribe if you want to stay
on) I am delighted to see all the places pion is popping up now, most
recently I hear it is in matrix´s stacked SFU implementation? That is
a very interesting
The CEO and CTO leaving the same day:
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7092249133889060864/
Samknows bought by thousandeyes a bit back. Hmm.
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not work for end
> >> systems to find the bottleneck bandwidth on some unknown intermediate
> >> node. However, it can deliver useful information for scheduling algorithms
> >> in forwarding nodes, which is the use case in this paper, and which may be
> >> of
Promising approach:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10188775
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From: 'Neal Cardwell' via BBR Development
Date: Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 8:56 AM
Subject: [bbr-dev] Linux TCP BBRv3 open source release and IETF 117
talk video and slides [2023/07/25]
To: BBR Development
Hi all,
A few quick announcements from the BBR team at
https://blog.apnic.net/2023/07/25/a-formal-analysis-of-karns-algorithm/
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It is in vancouver, ca this year.
https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/netdev-0x17-call-for-submissions.html
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We could use some more fresh eyeballs setting this up at home or
elsewhere, so we can at least handle some fit and finish issues, as
well as establish a roadmap for the subsequent v1.5 release.
Get it here: https://github.com/LibreQoE/LibreQoS/releases/tag/v1.4-rc9
- some pictures of the new
I have been re-reading James Gleick's book on "Chaos", (highly
recommended) and digging a little bit into Mandelbrot's work.
"A new model for the clustering of errors on telephone circuits",
published in 1963, was worth a read.
https://sci-hub.se/https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5392305
I
we have never got around to forming a non-profit for bufferbloat.net,
this grant series looks ideal for someone that has one handy. 300k
available.
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On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:23 AM Rodney W. Grimes
wrote:
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> > This paper does a really good job of measuring the impacts of tcp
> > cross traffic, including BBRv2, against the videoconferencing
> > subsystems in signal, telegram, and whatsapp.
>
> Did I miss something? The paper only shows a
This paper does a really good job of measuring the impacts of tcp
cross traffic, including BBRv2, against the videoconferencing
subsystems in signal, telegram, and whatsapp.
https://tma.ifip.org/2023/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2023/06/tma2023-final37.pdf
Naturally fq_codel shines. The paper
on all the intertubes...
https://preseem.com/2023/06/how-to-reduce-latency-for-isps-and-subscribers/
While I do embrace the need for a middlebox on the down, the home wifi
really needs fq_codel running directly on it too, and cake on the
up... I really wish somehow, someday, I could sit across
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ccwg/
is a new wg intended to poke into these issues
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:49 PM Stephen Hemminger via Cake
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> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 12:47:01 -0700 (PDT)
> David Lang wrote:
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> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, David P. Reed via Bloat wrote:
> >
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