Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread toki
On 2020/07/17 16:22, Mark Hung wrote: > My impression as a user regarding LibreOffice Personal ( or Individuals, > Individuals WFH, students ) vs LibreOffice Enterprises is that they might > be different in their features, where LibreOffice Enterprise might have a > bunch of features that suits

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Mark Hung
Hi Italo, I got a few questions regarding the branding part of the plan, p46-p53. It seems that the need of "editions" is deemed to be necessary, and the "target audience" has been selected as the differentiate criteria implicitly. My impression as a user regarding LibreOffice Personal ( or

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Telesto
What is the targeted objective? To get a marketing communication plan passed? I prefer to put that on hold. Consensus about what to do, yes. A plan preparing a change. A Schedule. List of things what needs to be done. Research. Investigating options products/solutions. Markets/ Products. Say,

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 7/16/20 11:36 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Slide 28 > What is the surplus of the sum of "volonteers" and "ecosystem" to form the > "community"? Users? Takers? That is a visual representation of the relationships between volunteers and ecosystem inside the community, and has no relation with the

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 17/07/2020 09.46, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Am 17.07.20 um 08:47 schrieb Michael Weghorn: >> Doesn't TDF fund programming of software when it does tenders? > > Yes, but only in special cases and under limited conditions. Therefore the > tenders have to be carefully thought of and cannot be at free

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread Uwe Altmann
Am 17.07.20 um 08:47 schrieb Michael Weghorn: > Doesn't TDF fund programming of software when it does tenders? Yes, but only in special cases and under limited conditions. Therefore the tenders have to be carefully thought of and cannot be at free will. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-16 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi Am 15.07.20 um 16:05 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > A new version of the strategic marcom plan has been uploaded to > Nextcloud: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/4pLtn9xn76BkxFK Very much improved indeed :-) Two minor naggings: Slide 3 (in regard to 4) maybe better (?) "The Document

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Telesto
I'm still the opinion that the "Marketing Communications Plan" being (totally) insufficient to solve the current problem, not intended as offense to the author.   The Marketing _Communication _Plan shows the need for a whole business case for the company's involved (including a market

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread kainz.a
For me community edition mean that the user is part of the community so it implies user can contribute. For me community is the right label cause TDF and LibreOffice stand for community. toki schrieb am Mi., 15. Juli 2020, 21:59: > On 2020/07/15 17:47, Kev M wrote: > > >Your branding expert is

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Tuomas Hietala
Hello Italo, Thanks for explaining the reasoning behind the choice of words (p. 49-50). Perhaps I come from another filter bubble, so let me explain my perspective. To me, Personal Edition suggests a no-cost version of a proprietary application, with limits to commercial use. For example: [1]

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread toki
On 2020/07/15 17:47, Kev M wrote: >Your branding expert is possibly correct in their assessment that Personal is >better. But alarms are going off in the heads of me and other FOSS >supporters/ideologues on the implications of the term. Hard to balance >interests. The hardest part of

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > Absolutely, my hope is TDF gets more developer mentors to nurture > those who are frustrated by the code and want to become part of the > solution =) > Quite - expect some job posting there in the nearest future. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description:

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Andreas, On 15/07/2020 18:48, kainz.a wrote: > If you are at an LibreOffice conference there are 40% people from > ecosystem and 40% volunteers. By head-count - there are a vast number of volunteers doing great stuff, they completely swamp the full-time paid developer head count. Many

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Kev M
> The document just confirms that the start screen is missing, and does > not even hint to add one. Respectfully; The opposite of missing is found. I was reacting defensively but there it could be interpreted that way by someone without context (like me). On the brand expert that offered his

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 7/15/20 6:36 PM, Kev M wrote: > I still don't like slide 46: "...focused on needs of individual users" - > Why can't it say only "you are using the volunteer supported version of > LibreOffice" - or "you are using the volunteer supported version of > LibreOffice, this version does for

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 7/15/20 6:36 PM, Kev M wrote: > I don't know what the acronym USP means. Unique Selling Proposition -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Kev M
All of my comments are as a user/donor, so take from them with the importance you see fit. I believe TBD is To Be Determined. I don't know what the acronym USP means. I like "LibreOffice Technology" a lot more than "LibreOffice Engine". I still don't like slide 46: "...focused on needs of

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 15/07/2020 16.05, Italo Vignoli wrote: > A new version of the strategic marcom plan has been uploaded to > Nextcloud: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/4pLtn9xn76BkxFK > > Please refer to this version for your comment, as it clarifies some > specific points which were raised during

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Thanks for notifying us of an acronym that may lead to misunderstanding. In this context it means To Be Decided. We are still receiving feedback so nothing has been decided yet. Ciao Paolo On 15/07/2020 17:46, kainz.a wrote: > Thanks for the update Italo, > > I didn't find what TBD is at the

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread kainz.a
Thanks for the update Italo, I didn't find what TBD is at the presentation so I search the internet and get this result from wikipedia [1] TBD ... to be done, to be dated, to be designed Please add what TBD mean [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/TBD Am Mi., 15. Juli 2020 um 16:07 Uhr schrieb