Re: [board-discuss] Question about ANSSI certification for Apple App Store

2023-02-16 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2023-02-11 at 09:32 -0500, Patrick Luby wrote:
> Anyway, I know that preparing the application for this certicate was
> not an easy task, but would TDF be willing to publicly share their 
> application (or at least any technical answers) with the community?

FWIW: the ANSSI cert was mentioned in today's ESC. Minutes:
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2023-February/089958.html
"
   + question from Patrick
   + had no time to look into that yet (Cloph)
   + will share info once TDF filed its papers
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[board-discuss] [VOTE] TDF to change composition of legal oversight group

2022-07-21 Thread Caolán McNamara
Hello,

the special working group of the legal oversight group hereby makes 
available the draft of an amendment to the Rules of Procedure [1] of
the Board of Directors.

The amendment is to change the internal delegation of responsibilities 
(“areas of oversight”) in § 3 only regarding “contracts, legal 
compliance, GDPR, trademarks”.

The former members of the legal oversight group regarding “contracts, 
legal compliance, GDPR, trademarks” shall be replaced by the new
members Caolán McNamara, Emiliano Vavassori and Paolo Vecchi. (All
other oversight groups remain unchanged.)

We hereby call for the following VOTE, which will start Friday, 
2022-07-29 00:00 UTC+2/CEST and will then run for 72h.

This vote is proposed by all members of the special working group of
the legal oversight group: Caolán, Emiliano, Paolo. Members of the
board who are in conflict shall explicitly declare their abstention.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_rules

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[board-discuss] calming pause please

2022-06-12 Thread Caolán McNamara
I suggest a little calming pause for a day or two on this list, it has
become somewhat fraught. It would be great to hold off on posting
anything rash and give the part of the board here in Berlin a chance to
get back home and catch up.

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Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] TDF to publish LibreOffice in app stores

2022-06-08 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2022-06-08 at 11:44 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> happy to update the vote template if the board is fine with that.
> 
> All board members are on this list, so we can gather some feedback.

Yeah, I'm content to see that information presented by default.

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Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-13 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 14:29 +0200, Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> after receiving quite a few comments and suggestions it seems like is
> time to publish what, hopefully, is the final version of the proposal
> to add 2 in-house developers to TDF's team:
> 
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/sfJeNq7H9GS8YPe

The project management section might imply something of a mentoring or
micro management role for the ESC which isn't really something that I
think it's suited for, if that is envisioned.

The commentary around targeting specific stalled/neglected areas of
development is appealing, I fear there may exist a general feeling TDF
developers will solve everyone's pet peeves whereas hiring to primarily
do a specific XY sets achievable expectations.

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Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)

2022-04-28 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 20:27 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote:
> it may be good to know why there are the need for two members from
> one ecosystem company? Has no other individual contributors or
> ecosystem system members shown interest to participate in the ESC?
> 
> The ESC should represent a wide diversity of the ecosystem and the
> interests of its members (individual and organizations). Thus every
> organization (aside maybe from TDF) should only hold one seat in the
> ESC.

The text of proposed changes is a diff against the current list
available in the link at the top of the original mail, just in case the
text reads as if the proposed changes are the full ESC complement.
There is (and here proposed to still be) 5 TDF employees, 5 Collabora,
3 allotropia, 3 Red Hat and 6 other Individual or single company
employees on the ESC giving IMO a fairly broad representation of
ESC-relevant skills and insights. I wouldn't welcome dropping 8 (or 12)
members and lose out on that.

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Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] ratify board communication best practices document

2022-04-12 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2022-04-12 at 18:44 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> ... calling for a vote, to:
> 
> * ratify attached best practices as current board communication
>   guidelines ... https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/900757
> 
> Vote runs the usual 72 hours, please answer with +1/-1/abstain to

+1

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Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] approval of preliminary budget for 2022

2022-04-06 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 08:15 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> On behalf of the Board, I therefore call for the following VOTE:
> 
> Approval of the preliminary budget for 2022

+1 approve

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Re: [board-discuss] Re: New draft of the proposal for in-house developers

2022-03-30 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2022-03-26 at 21:13 +, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 12:21 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> 
> > - fixing old regressions, e.g. the chart bug in the report builder;
> 
> This one I'm unaware of. Is this bug#87012 or another?

tdf#117162 apparently. Seems to work again now with:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=70f3a94949cce612be9eff14fca94976acfc61a4
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=78f7bd90b96ac168fdacd1e0cb0693ab3861872a
which maybe helps to unblock things a little in the short term

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Re: [board-discuss] Re: New draft of the proposal for in-house developers

2022-03-26 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 12:21 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> - making embedded Firebird the functional equivalent of embedded
> hsqldb - currently, it is like some awkward reject, shivering in the
> cold and dark - lots of incremental improvements to be made here;
> - migrating the Java report generator code to C++ - there used to be
> a native report writer, and it got killed off in favour of Java -
> however, this would not be a small endeavour.

FWIW the firebird and report generator things are the two base issues
that I'm aware of and would love to see progress on.

> - fixing old regressions, e.g. the chart bug in the report builder;

This one I'm unaware of. Is this bug#87012 or another?

> Of course, if the general thinking in the "dev community" is that
> database front end support is a dead duck

FWIW I don't think base a dead duck or that it needs to be excised, but
maybe it's fair to designate it as an area of concern. 

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Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] Approve the attic proposal

2022-03-24 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 00:20 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> Dear directors,
> 
> calling for an email VOTE on the below final version of the Attic
> Proposal. The vote runs for 72 hours, starting now.

+1 in favor.

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Re: [board-discuss] Draft text: an "attic" proposal - version 2.0

2022-03-14 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 17:34 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> For me the clear demands in the proposal are to prevent a situation 
> where projects restart without a good change on success, which is IMO
> quite relevant for TDF's good name.

I tend to agree. I don't think making it trivial to deattic something
by applying a set of superficial commits to a very large code base
which don't achieve meaningful change while f.e. unaddressed security
issues mount up, creating a sort of zombie would be a good idea.

wrt the proposals exact number of devs and commits, I could imagine
that on getting atticed a project is categorized into small, medium,
large with 1, 3, 6 devs required to de-attic if there is genuine
concern about the proposed bar being too high vs a new from scratch
project.

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Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] Approve version 1.3.2 of the CoI policy

2022-03-04 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2022-03-04 at 13:30 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> as discussed in
> https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/nUXiQDLatIR_Od6g63A08xU3 
> and in the last board call, the following VOTE is proposed on the 
> recently published draft update to the CoI policy [1], to modify our 
> Rules of Procedure [2] - such that we reference version 1.3.2 of the
> CoI policy:

+1. Yes.
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[board-discuss] Representation statement

2022-03-03 Thread Caolán McNamara
I, Caolán McNamara, elected member of the Board of Directors of The 
Document Foundation, hereby and until further notice, nominate the 
following deputies to represent me during board calls and meetings, in 
the order set forth below:
 
1. Gábor Kelemen
2. Gabriel Masei
3. Ayhan Yalçınsoy

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Re: [board-discuss] [DISCUSS] Proposed update for the CoI Policy: version 1.3.2

2022-02-24 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2022-02-24 at 12:41 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Paolo Vecchi wrote on 24/02/2022 09:06:
> 
> > On 24/02/2022 03:19, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> > > How do you suggest we move this forward then? The current state
> > > of the policy is still considered not ok for some.
> > All of us read and accepted to be bound by the current version of
> > the CoI Policy by being a member of the Board of Directors.
> > I believe no one in the current board has any problem with it or 
> > wouldn't have ran for a board position.
> 
> Life can be so complicated at times ;)
> 
> I do not see a reason not to support the small improvements that are
> in.

I don't have concerns about the specific changes, which substantively
looks like +1/-3 words. The document reads very draconian to me but
that's not the question asked here.

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Re: [board-discuss] Re: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-15 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2022-02-15 at 12:47 +0100, Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> Hi Caolán,
> 
> thanks for your feedback.
> 
> On 14/02/2022 21:49, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> > I think at least some of the push back is less against the concept
> > that TDF should hire developers and more that it's a clearer path
> > to start with some specific problems and then what options could
> > solve them and hiring can be an option on that decision tree. It's
> > a rare dev that has skills in multiple appstores, mentoring, qa,
> > a11y, CTL, CJK and bugfixing in the various quite diverse
> > components.
> 
> Keep in mind that the point of the proposal was to get feedback from
> the community and the team which seems to confirm that it is
> desirable to have in-house developers to take care of certain areas.
> 
> Now that we know we want in-house developers, the team and the 
> interviews will help in determining which areas we can start
> covering.

It does still feel somewhat cart before horse in the sense that it
starts with a premise that hiring developers is the best solution and
then backfills it with the problems to solve. And I can understand
reluctance to go straight to that conclusion without stepping through
it starting from some specific priority problem areas to make sure
funds are distributed as wisely as possible to get the most tangible
reward.

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Re: [board-discuss] Re: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-14 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 18:12 +0100, Paolo Vecchi wrote:
>  Hi Kendy,
>  
> On 14/02/2022 16:42, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > In my world [regardless of the hat], a constructive debate is much
> > easier over a document collecting:
> > 
> > * the problem statement & the need
> > * the pros & cons of various solutions
> > * the proposal & conclusion
>  
>  Something like this?:
>  
>  *     As shown by Italo's slides at FOSDEM again and by others, TDF
> is not contributing as much as it could
>  *     Up to now no strategic decisions have been taken to make TDF a
> more regular and active code contributor
>  *     Members of the ecosystem and others also suggested that we
> should spend more money in development
>  *     Bugs, a11y issues and features can be harder to taken care of
> by volunteers and are not always addressed by the ecosystem
>  *     We need to build up internal skills and development
> capabilities to speed up innovation
>  *     Lack of suppliers diversification, mostly 2 at present, is a
> suboptimal situation for TDF, LibreOffice and its community
>  *     Internal developers can grow to cover areas like mentoring and
> QA while also helping with new contributors support
>  *     TDF needs to expand its internal capacity to deal with
> publishing in app stores directly and manage variable levels of
> complexity due to ever changing rules
>  *     Some proposed projects could be developed internally instead
> of outsourcing them, which helps to grow in-house skills and capacity
> to address our donors needs
>  *     Potential App Stores revenues may allow for more developers
> and to invest in developing other projects
>  *     Our development mentor together with the team should propose
> to the BoD projects for internal development
>  *     While internal projects may cover different areas tenders and
> ESC proposals will be also evaluated to avoid effort duplication
>  *     This is not "just" a new project, it's an essential and
> strategical move for TDF to grow further in its second decade which
> widens the horizon for new visions and opportunities to do more and
> even better things for LibreOffice and our community
>  *     Funds are available for at least 2 developers allowing us to
> start employing them straight away
>  *     Next steps: create and publish the job offers for developers
> and on-board them ASAP
>  
>  This has allowed to get a feel for the proposal, which seems very
> positive, and now we'll be working on the details but at least it
> showed that the community thinks we are moving in the right
> direction.
>  
>  Then should the new developers invest 30% of their time in QA, 50%
> in bug fixing and 20% in reviewing tenders and deliverables?
>  That's something we should see with the team as they have a very
> good feel of what is going on.

I think at least some of the push back is less against the concept that
TDF should hire developers and more that it's a clearer path to start
with some specific problems and then what options could solve them and
hiring can be an option on that decision tree. It's a rare dev that has
skills in multiple appstores, mentoring, qa, a11y, CTL, CJK and
bugfixing in the various quite diverse components.

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[board-discuss] Re: Acceptance of role in the Board of Directors

2022-01-07 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 00:10 +0100, Marina Latini wrote:
> Dear Caolán McNamara,
> 
> let me first take this opportunity to personally congratulate you for
> having been elected as member of the board. Then I kindly invite you
> to officially accept your position in the board by answering to this 
> message with a "Reply to all".
> 
> On behalf of the Membership Committee,
> Marina Latini
> 
> 
> 
> I, Caolán McNamara, elected director of the board of The Document 
> Foundation, hereby accept this position within the Stiftung
> bürgerlichen Rechts. My term will start February 18, 2022.
> 
> Signed: Caolán McNamara
> 
> 
> Ich, Caolán McNamara, gewähltes Mitglied des Vorstands der The
> Document Foundation, nehme mein Amt innerhalb der Stiftung
> bürgerlichen Rechts an. Meine Amtszeit beginnt am 18. Februar 2022.
> 
> Unterzeichnet: Caolán McNamara
> 

I accept


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[board-discuss] Re: Board elections: questions to the candidate Caolán McNamara

2021-11-29 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2021-11-27 at 12:19 +0100, Marina Latini wrote:
> 1. Do you commit yourself to have enough time and the necessary 
> technological tools in order to participate to the regularly scheduled
> board calls?

Sure.

> 2. Do you commit yourself to follow up and work on (at least) the main
> items and actions you will volunteer to oversee or that will be
> assigned to you by the board?

Sure.

> 3. What is your willingness to delegate decisions, especially in lack
> of time?

I'm happy to delegate.

> 4. What are your views on the foundation's budget? How should the money
> be spent, besides our fixed costs?

I'm particularly keen on funding for elements on the ESC suggested
tenders: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021 and
similar where there isn't currently sufficient existing activity.

> 5. Should we work towards broadening our pool of contributors, both 
> technical and non-technical?

Sure, though we should be sure we also retain what we have.

> 6. What actions do you suggest to increase the engagement and 
> participation of volunteers from local communities around the world
> in project's activities?

I think obviously covid has seriously hindered the ability to host in-
person conferences and regional meetups so it's difficult to maintain
energy without that regular face to face boost. Hopefully in the coming
year circumstances improve to allow those to return.

> 7. Should the Foundation -as an entity distinct from the LibreOffice 
> project or the Document Liberation project- engage into growing its 
> influence and promoting and defending Free Software and Digital
> Freedom?

wrt to promotion and defense, I'd like The foundation to also consider
risks to the other projects that LibreOffice depends on; spell checking
and hyphenation engines, spellchecking and hyphenation dictionaries,
document liberation project filters, specialized spreadsheet external
dependencies, cmis libraries and existence of fonts that are metrically
equivalent to important competitors.

>  If yes, do you have ideas on what should be done about this?

I'd like to see our dependencies recognized and categorized into what
risks they pose if they were to go dark. Perhaps there is potential to
more effectively cooperate with Mozilla Foundation where there is some
overlap on some of these technologies.

> 8. What's your idea to let TDF membership become more appealing? 
> Currently, the only difference from being Community member and TDF 
> member is the possibility to vote and be voted for TDF's governance,
> and it's fine, but can you imagine anything to encourage more
> Community members to become also part of TDF?

I was unaware there was a gulf between the numbers of community members
and actual TDF members. I'd be interesting in knowing the numbers and
if there are identifiable subgroups of community members that feel it's
undesirable, unnecessary or pointless to be TDF members.

> 9. How do you view your (potential) role as a member of the board of 
> directors, given that this position does not give you any specific 
> functional role inside the LibreOffice or Document Liberation
> projects?

I'd hope to act as a bridge to the development community, not just on
LibreOffice itself, but as a sometimes contributor to a wider set of
related projects.

> 10. What is the biggest problem of the foundation in your opinion?

Vulnerability to the loss of one or more of the larger employers of
developers that contribute to LibreOffice.

> What is its biggest opportunity?

LibreOffice is an established project and there is considerable good
will held towards it and the foundation.

> 11. If they will occur, how do you think to handle conflicts within
> the board?

I'm reasonably confident I can remain even handed if a problem arises.


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[board-discuss] Candidacy to the BoD elections: Caolán McNamara

2021-11-24 Thread Caolán McNamara
Dear Members,

I would like to stand for elections to the Board of Directors of The
Document Foundation.

I'm Caolán McNamara, full time developer on LibreOffice and member of
the ESC. I'm employed as a Principal Engineer by Red Hat as part of the
Desktop Team and have been involved with LibreOffice since its
inception and had involvement with its predecessors back to a stint as
a Sun Microsystems employee on StarOffice. I'm currently living on the
damp and windy west coast of Ireland.

For LibreOffice the type of things I currently work on are the existing
Gtk3 port and the work-in-progress Gtk4 port. I also act in the
LibreOffice security team as the liaison for LibreOffice's CVE
Numbering Authority, helping to turn security reports into fixes and
managing the admin work required. I oversee the oss-fuzz continuous
fuzzing of LibreOffice and maintain our continuous document
import/export crashtesting process, discovering and fixing crashes
close to the time of their introduction. 

Full name: Caolán McNamara
Email: caol...@redhat.com
Corporate affiliation: Red Hat, Inc.

(Less than) 75 words candidacy statement:

"I'm a long term contributor to LibreOffice on the development front
and I would like to serve in the Board to help represent the
perspective of contributors to our project in order to aid the Board in
making decisions that sustain existing contribution sources and
encourage growth"


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Re: [board-discuss] hiring Christian Lohmaier

2013-06-11 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 18:15 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 I hereby ask the board to
 
   1. vote on hiring Christian Lohmaier, for a limited period of one year, 
 part-time with 20 hours per week, specifically for web development, at 
 costs not exceeding 25.000 € per year,
   
   2. authorize Thorsten Behrens and me to sign the work contract on 
 behalf of TDF

+1

C.


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Re: [board-discuss] Request for auxiliary travel budget Dresden Impress Sprint

2013-03-04 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 14:44 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
 I'd like the board to approve an extra € 1,000.00 for travel bursaries,
 only to be used when host budget has run dry.

+1, bring us back a new impress hacker.

C.





Re: [board-discuss] travel refund for Italo's trips

2013-02-14 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 10:28 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hello,
 
 based on the recent discussions, I'd ask the board to vote on:
 
 1. Having a budget of 2.500 € in total for Italo's trips to POSSCON, 
 LibrePlanet and FOSSC Oman,
 
 2. thereby revoking decision # 20121220-01 [1]

ok, +1

C.




Re: [board-discuss] additional FOSDEM budget

2013-01-29 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 12:43 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask the board to approve an additional 600 € for collaterals.

+1

C.

Maybe we should have a money available bot that adds a sig with that
amount to budget request emails :-)




Re: [board-discuss] Request: approve 523,60 € lawyer fees for drafting a work contract

2012-12-17 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 01:57 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
 Dear board,
 
 we had hired counsel to come up with a suitable work contract to hire
 Florian. This has concluded, and the aforementioned fees are due,
 please approve the not-yet-budgeted amount.

+1

C.




Re: [board-discuss] budget for project weekend

2012-06-25 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 13:49 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 +1 from my side, but we need some more votes to reach a quorum
 
 Florian Effenberger wrote on 2012-06-20 15:37:

  Would the board be willing to approve up to, let's say, 200 € expenses
  for that?

sure sure, +1

C.


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Re: [steering-discuss] Board of Directors Candidacy: Caolán McNamara

2011-10-12 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 17:11 +0300, David Nelson wrote: 
 I would like to ask whether you would be willing to make a commitment
 for a term of office on the BoD.

Sure.

 I am certain that you will assure us that you support openness of the
 source code of LibreOffice.

Sure, apple pie and motherhood too.

 But I would like to put it to you that no software source code is
 truly open until it has been rendered as understandable as possible to
 as many people as possible.

err, sure, it would be nice to have source code as understandable as
possible. It might be a bit of a stretch to conclude that it's not open if
developer documentation is somewhat on the slight side.

 The solution of interested individuals gleaning knowledge by lurking
 and asking questions on IRC is not an effective and community-oriented
 method of sharing knowledge.

*shrug*, most questions are asked and answered on the mailing list,
where they can be archived so they don't have to be asked again. irc
tends towards more real time chat on specific right now problems
rather than a stomping ground for discussing anything indepth.

 Would you be willing to commit yourself to actively work ... on
 developing global design documentation

No. I couldn't make such a commitment.

 I am thinking of something along the lines of:
...

 Please may I ask your thoughts about this idea and whether you would
 explicitly agree to be part of it?

Well, here's what I *have* written, lazy uno hackers guide to porting,
default paper size selection, various bits of
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/FAQ
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/String_Classes and bits
and pieces like that. Generally stuff which gets asked of me a lot so
its less time to write it up once than repeat it on every question, or
stuff that was sufficiently difficult that I know I won't remember it
in a few weeks time.

Personally, I reckon developers hate wrong documentation more than
they hate no documentation. I mean, they would be compelled by their
natures to *fix* incorrect documentation far more than they could be
motivated to write correct documentation in the first place ;-)

C.

As an aside, I think we can somewhat lower the barrier to entry a good
bit here and there by removing the necessity for specific LibreOffice
documentation, e.g. there's great work underway with the various
macro-based list things to replace them with stl, so necessity to
document libreoffice-specific code goes away when its the same stuff as
found in any standard reference manual.


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