Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice no longer in Apple store ?

2023-01-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Thanks Sophie ! Le 13/01/2023 à 11:58, sophi a écrit : You don't see it currently because their is a special request for France that we have to comply with first (ANSSI certificate). Once this done, you'll be able to see it :) Christian provided a direct link, but we don't know if it will wor

Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice no longer in Apple store ?

2023-01-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Italo, Le 13/01/2023 à 10:18, Italo Vignoli a écrit : Hi Alex, some people see LibreOffice in the Apple Store, and some don't see it (I don't see it, and I see different things from you). We are investigating with Apple. The new version 7.4.4 was approved, and has been uploaded without is

Re: [board-discuss] Report about numbers from Apple App Store

2022-11-22 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Andreas, Perhaps I'm missing something, but why would the board have these figures, unless the private company distributing the product agreed to provide them, or was under some contractual obligation to do so? Just trying to understand exactly what it is you're trying to say, or prove, as

Re: [board-discuss] Re: "Documents Pro - Write & Edit" & others on Mac AppStore

2022-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
vant licence and source code. > >We have already issued take down notices in the past so we will keep >the >situation monitored and act accordingly. > >Please feel free to forward to me links to other examples so that we >can >complete our list of action items. > >Ciao &

[board-discuss] Re: "Documents Pro - Write & Edit" & others on Mac AppStore

2022-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
hases GO Office 2021 (Xiaoqin Chen / HNBSoft Team) - 9,99 € DOC Mate:for MS Office (Cynoble Technology Limited) Alex Le 08/09/2022 à 10:15, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : Hi everyone, I just wanted to draw the Board's attention to the existence of the products "Documents Pro

[board-discuss] Documents Pro - Write & Edit on Mac AppStore

2022-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi everyone, I just wanted to draw the Board's attention to the existence of the products "Documents Pro - Write & Edit" and "Office PDF Suite - for Word, Spreadsheet, Slides & Adobe PDF Docs Editor" These products are being sold respectively for 14,99 € and 39,99 € on the AppStore, which i

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] TDF to change statutes following a Federal Court of Justice decision

2022-07-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Thanks Thorsten 👍 Alex Le mer. 13 juil. 2022 à 23:41, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > Hi Alex, > > Alexander Thurgood wrote: > > Did I misread, or isn't the impugned clause (“Der Vorstand ist in seiner > > Vertretungsmacht durch den Zweck der Stiftung beschränkt.”)

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] TDF to change statutes following a Federal Court of Justice decision

2022-07-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Florian, Interesting decision by the BGH. Did I misread, or isn't the impugned clause (“Der Vorstand ist in seiner Vertretungsmacht durch den Zweck der Stiftung beschränkt.”) still present in the amended version ? If so, how is that now different to the previous situation (other than wha

Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree

2022-07-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
My ha'penneth below. Surely, the point of TDF is/was to foster community driven contributions by all ? If a languishing codebase was already there, and people are now prepared to update it and have a go at making something of it, shouldn't TDF be seen to be supporting such an initiative ?

Re: [board-discuss] Collabora Productivity from AppStore - bug reports

2022-06-15 Thread Alexander Thurgood
It is neither a question of overblowing or "paranoia", (thanks for the gratuitous comment by the way, in tdf#147130), but I raised the issue as to where bugs for Collabora should be reported when it was first released via the AppStore and was told, multiple times, and no less by Michael Meek

Re: [board-discuss] Collabora Productivity from AppStore - bug reports

2022-06-15 Thread Alexander Thurgood
ot the way to retain volunteers like myself, quite the contrary. In fact, had I been of a less phlegmatic disposition, I would have told you all where to go, in no uncertain terms. Alex Le 14/06/2022 à 21:58, sophi a écrit : Hi Alex, Le 14/06/2022 à 09:52, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : He

Re: [board-discuss] Collabora Productivity from AppStore - bug reports

2022-06-15 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Jan, For example : tdf#147337 The others (there were at least 2 other instances, for example tdf#147130), all seem to have had similar comments deleted in the interim. Alex Le 14/06/2022 à 19:42, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood píše v Út 14. 06. 2022 v 09:52

[board-discuss] Collabora Productivity from AppStore - bug reports

2022-06-14 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hello to all, Might I suggest that a discussion be had, either by the Board, or the ESC, and a decision be made of public record, as to where bugs relating to Collabora Productivity are to be reported ? I have reported a number of bugs against Collabora Productivity in the LibreOffice bugzil

[board-discuss] Re: New draft of the proposal for in-house developers

2022-03-25 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi all, See my comments inline under Julien's. Le 25/03/2022 à 09:18, Julien Nabet a écrit : Firebird is not the only pb, charts aren't displayed anymore in reports and the whole reports part is dependent on old Java external components. Yes, the issue of charts in reports no longer being

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi all, I'd just like to comment on the exchange below, from my perspective: Le 10/02/2022 à 15:27, Italo Vignoli a écrit : Then there is a number of donors who ask to stop the recurring donation. Some of them provide a reason, which in some cases is that he wanted to donate once and not

Re: [board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-14 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Thanks Ilmari ! I seem to have missed that ! Will need to try it out again, and apologies for my erroneous statement in that case. Alex Le 13/01/2022 à 21:08, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit : On 13.1.2022 21.56, Michael Meeks wrote: On 13/01/2022 12:35, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Endian-ness

Re: [board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Michael, Thanks for jumping in on this thread, and I appreciate you having taken the time to address my points. Comments inline : Le 12/01/2022 à 21:45, Michael Meeks a écrit : Unfortunately - this tends to dis-aggregate the funding again - so we end up either with too little money

Re: [board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-12 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Paolo, Answers/comments/response inline : Le 12/01/2022 à 14:56, Paolo Vecchi a écrit : *1) Support offering from commercial entities* There isn't much we can do in this area as each company chooses its own business model. Offering a SLA to fix a bug could mean spending a day in fix

Re: [board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-12 Thread Alexander Thurgood
an 12, 2022 at 10:09 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: It seems increasingly obvious that the provider of these commercial versions is not interested in maintaining database functionality and the supporting Java functionality that accompanies the Base module. The reasons for t

[board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-12 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi *, Sophie suggested that I might want to raise what I perceive as an issue here on this list, that is connected, but not identical, to the issue relating to the Attic question, and the questions around the sidelining of features/functionality in commercially developed and distributed versi

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-08-23 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 23/08/11 15:25, Simon Phipps a écrit : Hi Simon, >> better still : >> >> "Use thereof is explained in our trademark policy." > > I agree that's more precise English. I am a little concerned it's uncommon > usage that those with English as a second language might consider difficult, > and th

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-08-23 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 23/08/11 10:18, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Second thoughts, > subject to international copyright laws. Uses are explained our > trademark policy. > better still : "Use thereof is explained in our trademark policy." Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@d

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-08-23 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 23/08/11 10:18, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, > > Alex, how does that sound from a legal point of view? Is it strong enough? > "Usage is explained in our trademark policy." Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? ht

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-08-20 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 20/08/11 11:34, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, > "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation" are registered trademarks of > their corresponding registered owners or are in actual use as trademarks > in one or more countries. Their respective logos and icons are subject > to internat

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-08-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 31/07/11 16:53, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, > hmmm... do I get it right that not mentioning any trademark protection > is better than mentioning that a mark is protected, but not naming the > registrant? The easiest way around such a situation in the present state of...flux, wo

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-07-31 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 31/07/11 10:21, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, > legally, the German association "Freies Office Deutschland e.V." is the > current trademark holder, as TDF doesn't exist as legal entity yet. Ideally then, reference should be made to the FOD Verein and not to TDF. Not mentioning th

[steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-07-30 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 30/07/11 18:39, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian > > I received a trademark use request from an extension vendor. For > confidentiality reasons (the product has not yet been launched), I'll > remove the name, but the request is as follows: > > Back of the product box: > LibreOffice

[steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 09/07/11 23:26, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : Hi all, Someone suggested I sling in some caselaw or other references on whether copyright protection is available for UIs : US Just one caselaw review : http://www.legalserviceindia.com/articles/crind.htm Europe In European Union Court of Justice C

[steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 09/07/11 23:32, Simon Phipps a écrit : > As someone who also has worked in this field for the best part of a decade, > and given the advice Alex has already provided appears extreme, I would > suggest also seeking counsel from another specialist if TDF wishes to pursue > this path, perhaps fr

[steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 08/07/11 12:01, David Nelson a écrit : David, How much clearer can this page be : http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/IntellectualProperty/Permissions/Default.aspx "You may only copy, modify, distribute, display, license, or sell the content if you are granted explicit permission with

[steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 06/07/11 11:48, Tom Davies a écrit : Everyone : To me, the point has more to do with SC communication. Once again, a topic has raised its head that I considered "dealt with", and now it is back on the table. Although not a member of the SC, the question of the legality of screenshot usage and

Re: [steering-discuss] Quo Vadis TDF Development - paid support based model ?

2011-05-18 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Thorsten, all, Le 18/05/11 10:01, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > TDF's mission surely also includes catering for 'business' users. > Our ability to perform that will grow over time (remember, we're > starting this organisation from scratch) - and encouraging people > who can afford it to get pa

[steering-discuss] Quo Vadis TDF Development - paid support based model ?

2011-05-17 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi all, A recent discussion on the developer list has brought me to ask myself where, if anywhere, there is a positive statement or decision on development strategy that implies or explicitly mentions that "enterprise stability" can/will only be expected in the LibreOffice product if companies / a

[steering-discuss] Re: LibreOffice TSC call, Thur May 12th - 15:00 UTC...

2011-05-17 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 16/05/11 19:31, Bjoern Michaelsen a écrit : Hi Bjoern, > Looking at the bug shows: > - It did not only happen with Ubuntus build. > - It did not only happen on Ubuntu. > - It does not happen in Libreoffice 3.3.2 on Natty even for people > reporting it before. 3.3.2 on Natty is the first offi

[steering-discuss] Re: LibreOffice TSC call, Thur May 12th - 15:00 UTC...

2011-05-16 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 16/05/11 11:25, Petr Mladek a écrit : > >> Bug 36991 - crash when duplicating draw page with linked wmf pictures >> I think a crash in a basic function that might affect many users is not >> acceptable. > > I agree that it is annoying and we should fix it ASAP. It seems to > behave very rand

[steering-discuss] Re: LibreOffice TSC call minutes, Thur May 12th

2011-05-12 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 12/05/11 18:28, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, > > Actually only 30 unconfirmed ones (well, those that use the unconfirmed > state). > I don't know who would have the rights to do so, but enforcing > unconfirmed state for non-developer/non-qa people might make sense to > get a better ove

[steering-discuss] Re: Fwd: Fundraising events

2011-03-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/03/11 13:40, sophie a écrit : Hi all, > I've proposed that we write a charter with local associations, where > when they earn money using our name, a percentage of this revenue is > reversed to TDF. It could be a small amount for basis and if more, done > as a donation. However it seems th

[steering-discuss] Re: Approval of our Trademark Policy

2011-03-04 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 04/03/11 01:00, drew a écrit : Hi Drew, > Well which is it - is the community logo w/registered trademark, mark or > not? - it is both ways on the wiki page above - PNG w/out any mark, SVG > with 'registered trademark", while on the trademark policy page it seems > that maybe it is just a "tm"

[steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-01-28 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 28/01/11 13:48, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi, > Good point; 'business' is confusing, I switched it to company name to > make it more comprehensible: > > "Thus uses of the Marks in a domain name or company name without > explicit written permission from TDF are prohibited."

[steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-01-28 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 28/01/11 13:47, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi Michael, > I suppose they need permission :-) > With the caveat of the "fair use" exception, which does not require permission. The notion of "fair use" varies from country to country. In some countries, you are even allowed to use registered

[steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-01-28 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 28/01/11 13:47, Michael Meeks a écrit : I might add that "non-commercial" use of a trademark is also, in some jurisdictions, not considered to be an activity that infringes a trademark holder's rights. One of the basic rules is whether there is a risk of confusion in the buying public's mind /

[steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-01-24 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 14/01/11 15:46, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hi again, "- Accompanying Symbol: The first or most prominent mention of a TDF Trademark should be accompanied by a symbol indicating whether the mark is a registered trademark ("®") or an unregistered trademark ("™"). " How is anyone to know which

[steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-01-24 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 21/01/11 15:21, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi all, > > There is some concern about the lack of clarity on whether > incorporating libreoffice (or other marks) into a domain name > is allowed - this is an area people often want to tread on, and > we should probably directl

[steering-discuss] Re: Update on the Foundation

2011-01-03 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Charles, Le 03/01/11 17:00, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : > Yes, you get the idea. Although I would certainly not dismiss donations > of 500, 1000, 2000 euros. They do make a real difference. > If the Stiftung is not yet in existence, how, in concrete terms, is the "whip around" done ? By dona