Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi David, On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 15:40 +0300, David Nelson wrote: Sorry, I just want to add this small comment/question to my preceding posts in this thread: These belong on discuss - as has been pointed out. They are also rather tangential to the role of the board IMHO - which devolves

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-10 Thread Tom Davies
...@suse.com Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Monday, 10 October, 2011, 10:11 Hi Tom, On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: One of the top priorities for the Documentation Team right now is a guide

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Michael, On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 12:22 +0300, David Nelson wrote: Your arguments resound with the sideways logic and suave patter of a dishonest used car salesman combined with the moral values of a larcenous

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Michael, Thanks for the answers. I don't have time to reply in detail this week, but I will certainly be thinking about what you said. I don't intend to let go of this subject, but will be planning my next attack (let me register that as a joke already) on the discuss list. I'll be coming up

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-10 Thread David Nelson
Sorry, I just want to add this small comment/question to my preceding posts in this thread: I have been searching around, and I have not been able to find an official development roadmap of any kind. For sure, there's detailed information about planned release dates going far into the future [1].

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-10 Thread David Nelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:40 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: For sure, there's detailed information about planned release dates going far into the future [1]. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Michael, Thank you for taking time out to give me those interesting answers. Lots of food for thought there, as has been the case in the past after discussing with you. I'll be arming up for work on the online help and the code base in the near future, and will pop up on IRC at that time. And

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:38 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi, :-) Minor addition after a few hours sleep and before starting work: This kind of design documentation is really essential for various reasons. What would happen if there was some kind of disaster and we were to

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread David Nelson
Hello Norbert, On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously ? for a distributed open source software, _that_ is your doomsday scenario ? If that were to happen, it would probably means that your immediate problem would be survival: finding food and

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread David Nelson
To give you an idea of the kind of collaboration I'm proposing to our leading devs, you could read this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_design_document -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems?

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, David Nelson wrote (08-10-11 16:38) 2011/10/8 Jesús Corriusje...@softcatala.org: In my opinion, I don't think it's best for the project to put some of the most skilled developers to work in documentation, when other developers can also do this task perfectly well. It is precisely

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi Cor, On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: I see no link between the role of the BOD and individual members making commitments to certain day to day tasks. Is there something why I should, in your opinion? I don't see anything incongruous about asking a

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, David Nelson wrote (09-10-11 13:30) I don't see anything incongruous about asking a candidate in the Board of Directors election about what commitments he might be willing to take on if elected. In fact, what else are you supposed to ask of candidates? Taking care for

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:22 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hello Norbert, No amount of documentation will turn a 'non-geek' into a core dev. Clean, well written code, with the least amount of 'trick' is the best documentation: It is by definition accurate, complete and

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Norbert Thiebaud wrote (09-10-11 14:25) Trying to extract election promises out of some people, on ground completely unrelated to the office they seek, is not going to get you there. Correct. I would assume (have seem some mails swiftly after posting my initial contribution to this thread)

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Simon Phipps
On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, David Nelson wrote: Let's not get side-tracked. You're asking a development question that's not among the duties of a member of the Board of Directors. You're obviously welcome to ask community members about your project proposal, but I suggest you wait until after

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi, On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Norbert Thiebaud wrote (09-10-11 14:25) Trying to extract election promises out of some people, on ground completely unrelated to the office they seek, is not going to get you there. Correct. I would assume (have seem

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Simon Phipps
On 9 Oct 2011, at 13:57, David Nelson wrote: Hi Simon, On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Simon Phipps webm...@opensource.org wrote: You're asking a development question that's not among the duties of a member of the Board of Directors. You're obviously welcome to ask community members

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello David, Le 09/10/2011 16:02, David Nelson a écrit : Hi Simon, On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Simon Phipps webm...@documentfoundation.org wrote: I am indicating that questions about development plans and intentions fall outside the scope of questions for Board candidates as regards

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Simon Phipps
On Oct 9, 2011 3:04 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: It would have been so much simpler if the candidates had been allowed to answer for themselves. Hey, cool it. No-one is stopping them answering; I'm explaining why they are not. Please read what I wrote calmly and, if you still

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread Cor Nouws
David Nelson wrote (09-10-11 14:55) Norbert, it would be good if you read things carefully and accurately. Cor, it would be good if you did not jump to conclusions. David, it would be good if you just understood the point ;-) Norbert and Cor, it would be polite and in keeping with the

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-09 Thread David Nelson
Cor, Apparently you enjoy an argument. :-D I wasn't going to write further to this thread, but apparently you need to have the last word, and I don't see why you should. I'll explain why below. My only mistake in writing to the candidates was that I continued in the threads they started on this

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Michael, Please let me start by thanking you for your past service on the SC, and your important contributions to TDF and the LibreOffice project. I would like to ask whether you would be willing to make a commitment for a term of office on the BoD. I am certain that you will assure us that

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jesus, 2011/10/8 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org: In my opinion, I don't think it's best for the project to put some of the most skilled developers to work in documentation, when other developers can also do this task perfectly well. It is precisely these guys who could put the most

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-08 Thread Jesús Corrius
Hi David, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Jesus, 2011/10/8 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org: In my opinion, I don't think it's best for the project to put some of the most skilled developers to work in documentation, when other developers can

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Jesus, I'm hoping to see from three of our leading devs who are candidates for the BoD how committed they are to *Open Source* software. ;-) Open the doors wider, and more people might come in. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-08 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/8/11 5:12 PM, David Nelson wrote: I'm hoping to see from three of our leading devs who are candidates for the BoD how committed they are to *Open Source* software. ;-) I do not think that this discussion should happen during the election time, as it might have an influence on the

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Italo, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think that this discussion should happen during the election time, as it might have an influence on the election outcome based on parametres which are not relevant for being a director (based on

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello David, Le Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:39:13 +0300, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz a écrit : Hi Italo, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think that this discussion should happen during the election time, as it might have an influence on

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Charles, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: I'll let the candidates you have asked your question to answer. I had one question for you though: will you be in Paris next week? Sadly not. :-( I'm wrapped up in a client project for

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Norbert, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: But here you are taking advantage of the fact that these candidates happen to also be core developer to corner them. Of course. :-) That's politics right? But seriously, this is - to me, a non-dev but

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
:) --- On Sat, 8/10/11, Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org wrote: From: Jesús Corrius Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Saturday, 8 October, 2011, 15:33 This could usefully be a collaborative initiative actively worked on by Caolan

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

2011-10-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) Minor addition after a few hours sleep and before starting work: This kind of design documentation is really essential for various reasons. What would happen if there was some kind of disaster and we were to lose the essential core of our lead devs for some horrible reason? We'd be

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board of Directors

2011-10-04 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Olivier, I recognize you as an important person for the propagation of LibreOffice, specially in Brazil, for your performance inside and outside of TDF. You never refused to perform you role as a member from TDF, neither to promote LibreOffice in all possible instances. You got my vote,