...@comcast.net
To: 'McLeod, John' john.mcl...@sap.com; jacob_w_kl...@msn.com;
r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
You can still easily get into deadline trouble with either large
...@msn.com];
boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
If a project really needs half day deadlines, the BOINC architecture may not be
the right choice. If it doesn't really need half day deadlines, it shouldn't
have
Haselgrove [r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com]
*CC:* Charles Elliott [elliott...@comcast.net]; McLeod, John [
john.mcl...@sap.com]; jacob_w_kl...@msn.com [jacob_w_kl...@msn.com];
boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
*Subject:* Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed
: r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com [r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com];
elliott...@comcast.net [elliott...@comcast.net]; jacob_w_kl...@msn.com
[jacob_w_kl...@msn.com]; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
That may be the goal
@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
That may be the goal. The client machines may have other plans.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:16 AM, McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.commailto:
john.mcl...@sap.com wrote:
BOINC should be able to handle half to two day
@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu];
r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com [r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com];
korp...@ssl.berkeley.edu [korp...@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re[2]: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
If user wouldn't participate in his favorite game tournament exactly
(www.nitrodesk.com)
-Original Message-
From: Erik Veit [zombi...@mac.com]
Received: Saturday, 04 Oct 2014, 11:38AM
To: McLeod, John [john.mcl...@sap.com]
CC: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
But that’s exactly
@ssl.berkeley.edu; elliott...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
You can still easily get into deadline trouble with either large queues, or
multiple projects and an occasional tight deadline.
Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com
; jacob_w_kl...@msn.com;
r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
You can still easily get into deadline trouble with either large queues,
or multiple projects and an occasional
]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Just observe. I'm currently running two SIMAP tasks which were issued with a
two-day deadline (additional replications required for validation - they must
be using
reliable_reduced_delay_boundX/reliable_reduced_delay_bound
When a need
From: john.mcl...@sap.com
To: elliott...@comcast.net; jacob_w_kl...@msn.com; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu;
r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com
Subject: RE: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 13:00:15 +
That is one I had forgotten about. BOINC is probably
: Charles Elliott elliott...@comcast.net
To: 'McLeod, John' john.mcl...@sap.com; jacob_w_kl...@msn.com;
r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
You can still easily get
There are actually 2 exceptions to round-robin:
- jobs that would miss their deadline in round-robin
- jobs that haven't checkpointed
The question is whether we should show this info in the GUI.
My inclination is to show it in the event log rather than the GUI.
However we express it in the GUI,
@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Set a two day queue, and BOINC panics.
Use the words that the users are already using.
“Panic Mode”. It’s concise, easily understandable, no confusion with system
priority, and is the term BOINC users have been
]; McLeod, John [john.mcl...@sap.com];
elliott...@comcast.net [elliott...@comcast.net]; BOINC Development
[boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]; Richard Haselgrove [r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
There are actually 2 exceptions to round-robin
: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Set a two day queue, and BOINC panics.
Use the words that the users are already using.
“Panic Mode”. It’s concise, easily understandable, no confusion with system
priority, and is the term BOINC users have been using for years
@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
But that’s exactly what BOINC *is* doing. It’s stopped thinking, and is no
longer considering all the normal scheduling rules. It’s scheduling on pure
fear (panic) of a missed deadline
To: McLeod, John [john.mcl...@sap.com]
CC: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
But that’s exactly what BOINC *is* doing. It’s stopped thinking, and is no
longer considering all the normal scheduling rules. It’s
To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Set a two day queue, and BOINC panics.
Use the words that the users are already using.
“Panic Mode”. It’s concise, easily understandable, no confusion
[boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Set a two day queue, and BOINC panics.
Use the words that the users are already using.
“Panic Mode”. It’s concise, easily understandable, no confusion with system
priority, and is the term BOINC
OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS Scheduler
Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule might be good
for helping diagnose problems.
___
boinc_dev mailing list
boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS Scheduler
Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule might be good
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC workshop in
Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation was one that I
highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking that High
@ssl.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC workshop in
Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation was one that I
highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking that High
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC workshop
in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation was one
that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking that
High
Haselgrovemailto:r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com
Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM
To: McLeod, Johnmailto:john.mcl...@sap.com;
boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edumailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC
: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline.
Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline.
Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of
importance or urgency, we may want to go
though.
-Original Message-
From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jord
van der Elst
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM
To: David Anderson
Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Task xx_yy_zz
Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another.
or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important.
or: the right to take precedence or to proceed
anything that beats my proposal, hence why I'd still like
to see it.
:)
From: john.mcl...@sap.com
To: els...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:13:11 +
CC: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
I know the dictionary meanings
to mean settable by the user.
-Original Message-
From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:els...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM
To: McLeod, John
Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Priority: a thing
3, 2014 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com wrote:
I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation of
permanent.
From BOINC's point of view, it runs these tasks before
@ssl.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation
of permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean settable
by the user.
-Original Message-
From: Jord van der
]
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Skipping queue to meet deadline ?
-Juha
On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein jacob_w_kl...@msn.com wrote:
I still would like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next
to Running, despite David's logic against it.
The user's
boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu;
juha.sointus...@gmail.com juha.sointus...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
That misses the detail that the time is borrowed, and will be paid back.
Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown
: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Skipping queue to meet deadline ?
-Juha
On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein jacob_w_kl...@msn.com wrote:
I still would like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next
to Running, despite David's logic against it.
The user's
@ssl.berkeley.edu]
*Subject:* Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Skipping queue to meet deadline ?
-Juha
On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein jacob_w_kl...@msn.com wrote:
I still would like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next
to Running, despite David's logic
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
Simplest and very truthfully is of course: Running, trying to meet
deadline. Does that really need an explanation of borrowing time,
running ahead of the pack, skipping queue, take precedence,
risk at missing or high priority?
-- Jord
: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
I'd like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next to
Running.
From: Richard Haselgrovemailto:r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com
Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM
To: McLeod, Johnmailto:john.mcl
, 10:10PM
To: 'Jacob Klein' [jacob_w_kl...@msn.com]; 'Richard Haselgrove'
[r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com]; McLeod, John [john.mcl...@sap.com];
boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Subject: RE: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.
On my computer, which is allocated
40 matches
Mail list logo
