RE: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: zondag 5 januari 2003 17:41 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: A Problem For Conservatives It's not the job of scientists to prove the Big Bang - it's their job to disprove it! I don't know why,

RE: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Richard Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: zondag 5 januari 2003 21:15 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: A Problem For Conservatives I wish the likes of Scientific American would stop saying things like More proof for the Big Bang when

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Richard Baker
Jeroen said: What's the difference? If you have proof for something then it is absolutely, incontrovertibly true. If you have evidence for something then it's just probable. Rich GCU Degrees Of Certitude ___

Re: Wildcard Picks

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:08 AM 1/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 11:22 AM 1/5/2003 -0500 Kevin Tarr wrote: Yes congratz John. There was no way that should have happened, but that's the playoffs. The Falcons had solid defense, moved the ball well, and showed poise. Plus I didn't know Duckett was back. What do you mean

For Dan

2003-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Two strangers are sitting in an adjacent seats in airplane. One guy says to the other, Let's talk. I hear that the flight will go faster if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger. The other guy, who had just opened a good book, closes it slowly, takes off his glasses and

Fwd: SCOUTED: Kitty CAT scan: More vets use high tech

2003-01-06 Thread Robert D. Zimmerman
Return-Path: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:08:23 EST Subject: Fwd: SCOUTED: Kitty CAT scan: More vets use high tech To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/30/2002 8:39:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They can't put the genie back in the

Fwd: Tolkien's Libertarian Vision

2003-01-06 Thread Robert D. Zimmerman
Return-Path: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:19:33 EST Subject: Fwd: Tolkien's Libertarian Vision To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/30/2002 9:30:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After all, who wouldn't prefer Middle Earth, unless

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gary L. Nunn wrote: Good God! This fish should be called the Satan Fish. Someone was telling me about this fish and I didn't believe them so I looked it up. Are there any in your neck of the jungle Alberto? No. BTW, I am not sure the Candiru exists, or if it is just an urban legend Alberto

RE: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: The problem with many attempts (NOT necessarily Dr. Townes's) attempts to unify science and religion is that they basically assume one is completely true and then try to make the other one fit into that framework, regardless of how much they have to hammer on it or trim pieces

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread William T Goodall
on 6/1/03 2:32 am, Julia Thompson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Baker ... The thing is, it's not possible to prove the Big Bang. How would one even go about trying to

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread William T Goodall
on 6/1/03 5:21 am, Ronn! Blankenship at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:15 PM 1/5/03 -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote: Candiru The vampire fish of Brazil When candirus parasitize humans, it is usually only when they are skinny-dipping while urinating in the water. The candiru tastes the urine

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread William T Goodall
on 6/1/03 4:00 pm, Alberto Monteiro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary L. Nunn wrote: Good God! This fish should be called the Satan Fish. Someone was telling me about this fish and I didn't believe them so I looked it up. Are there any in your neck of the jungle Alberto? No. BTW, I am

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Richard Baker
William G said: Of *course* God exists. It was proved otherwise last year on this list. Our recent troubles may have been an unpleasant reminder of the imperfection of the world, but surely they weren't bad enough to disprove the existence of God? Rich GCU Did I Miss Something?

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said: Why waste time trying to disprove it anyway? Might as well spend your time trying to disprove the existence of invisible, undetectably pink unicorns. Heretic! ...wait, were those *flying* invisible, undetectable pink unicorns? I advise that you consider your answer carefully if you

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: Re: A Problem For Conservatives On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 11:01:18PM +, Richard Baker wrote: William G said: Of *course* God exists. It was

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: Re: A Problem For Conservatives On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:19:33PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why waste time trying

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:42:29PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Actually, in this case, it was the damn invisible virtual partons. :-) Dolly family? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: A Problem For Conservatives On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:42:29PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Actually, in this case, it was the damn invisible virtual

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: Of *course* God exists. Haven't you ever heard of Mulder's Razor? William T. Goodall replied: It was proved otherwise last year on this list. As I recall, that proof was refuted. O Jeroen, master of the archives? Reggie Bautista :-)

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: A Problem For Conservatives - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:54

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:49 AM 1/5/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: Pretty much exactly my point. I'm just sick of conservatives giving voice to luddite morons and pretending it to be virtue. Given the existence of the 1st Amendment in this country, please provide a detailed memo to, quote, conservatives on how

Proving God Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
William T. Goodall replied: It was proved otherwise last year on this list. The poor dears! Someone should have told them that God loved him so much that he died on a cross for his sins so that he might have eternal life before he wasted all that effort! JDG

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:21 PM 1/5/03 -0600, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 10:15 PM 1/5/03 -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote: Good God! This fish should be called the Satan Fish. Someone was telling me about this fish and I didn't believe them so I looked it up. Are there any in your neck of the jungle Alberto? Gary

Re: Proving God Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 08:00:00PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: The poor dears! Someone should have told them that God loved him so much that he died on a cross for his sins so that he might have eternal life before he wasted all that effort! That was kind of silly of her, wasn't it?

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread William T Goodall
on 7/1/03 12:20 am, Reggie Bautista at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: Of *course* God exists. Haven't you ever heard of Mulder's Razor? William T. Goodall replied: It was proved otherwise last year on this list. As I recall, that proof was refuted. O Jeroen, master of the archives?

New MUD Instructions

2003-01-06 Thread Steve Sloan II
Since we've changed MUD servers, I've updated the MUD instruction page to reflect the new server: http://www.sloan3d.com/brinl/brinmud.html Please let me know if you have any problems following the instructions, or getting into the chat on Wednesday afternoon.

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:05 PM 1/6/03 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil. At 11:21 PM 1/5/03 -0600, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 10:15 PM

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: A Problem For Conservatives It wasn't refuted. It was objected to, and protested at, and even disbelieved - but not refuted. Are you

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil. At 08:05 PM 1/6/03 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL

Re: Proving God Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: That was kind of silly of her, wasn't it? Omniscient, omnipotent beings should have more sense than that! Oh, man, you've got it all wrong. Omniscient, omnipotent beings turn a blind eye to genocide while helping football players get touchdowns (at least according to

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/6/03 7:05:45 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the other site was somehow confused and got the fish mixed up with the California Gerbil. Beware the Vampire Gerbil! Instead of a cross you have to carry a large H William Taylor

Re: N Korea threatens to 'destroy world'

2003-01-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:07 PM 1/3/2003 -0800 Deborah Harrell wrote: But now you sound like you do indeed predict the Iraq conflict to become a world war - and your language suggests a certain eagerness for this. Is that really what you hope happens? To be blunt, I find that attitude dangerous, naive and

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At least the EB knows one orifice from another . . . I think the other site was somehow confused and got the fish mixed up with the California Gerbil. Eww! TMI! Put it in Gere! G rob You are a fluke of the universe. As in the electrical test

RE: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Mr. Seeberger wrote. Put it in Gere! G Armageddon! (10 putz points to anyone that knows that reference) Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [GoBills] Wildcard Picks

2003-01-06 Thread John Garcia
On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 11:50 PM, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 07:10 PM 1/5/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Final SF 39 NY 38 in the second greatest comeback victory in NFL playoff history. 8^) Ahhh.. its been a good weekend, with the 10 year anniversary of the greatest comeback in

RE: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Baker ... Our recent troubles may have been an unpleasant reminder of the imperfection of the world, but surely they weren't bad enough to disprove the existence of God? Troubles sure

Re: Proving God Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave the possibility open please. Do not prove the nonexistence of God. Because if that is done, the WB will probably replace Seventh Heaven with a reality show where 20 pro wrestlers have to live on camera together in a house with only one

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/6/03 8:22:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Put it in Gere! G Armageddon! (10 putz points to anyone that knows that reference) Movie? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Proving God Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/6/03 8:27:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave the possibility open please. Do not prove the nonexistence of God. Because if that is done, the WB will probably replace Seventh Heaven with a

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/6/2003 8:53:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beware the Vampire Gerbil! Instead of a cross you have to carry a large H Preparation H? Or prevarication H but I don't wish to know that. William Taylor

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread William T Goodall
on 7/1/03 2:52 am, Dan Minette at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: A Problem For Conservatives It wasn't refuted. It was objected to, and

Re: Proving God Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave the possibility open please. Do not prove the nonexistence of God. Because if that is done, the WB will probably replace Seventh Heaven with a reality show where 20 pro wrestlers have to live on camera together in

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: Okay what's TMI, besides the one I can see out my back window? Too Much Information. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Steve Sloan II
Gary L. Nunn wrote: Armageddon! (10 putz points to anyone that knows that reference) That's the safe word that the adventurous gay couple used in the funniest felching story I ever heard -- I think on the John Boy and Billy radio show. When they read the story, they said the word armageddon

Re: N Korea threatens to 'destroy world'

2003-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson
John D. Giorgis wrote: For now, so long as Afghanistan is an inhospitable place for the building of mega-terrorism attacks, then the peace is being won soundly. As the DPRK has demonstrated, the time to put the WMD-genie back in the bottle is rapidly running out. OK, according to a letter

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: Thats really a good question John. I mean really good. I myself wonder why the most visible face that conservatism presents, that is, the one *I* see most regularly, most clearly, not only tolerates the kind of wackiness I'm ranting about, but seems to actually

RE: Nightmare fish in Brazil.....

2003-01-06 Thread Gary L. Nunn
(10 putz points to anyone that knows that reference) That's the safe word that the adventurous gay couple used in the funniest felching story I ever heard -- I think on the John Boy and Billy radio show. When they read the story, they said the word armageddon in a hilariously squeaky

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
But creationists and their ilk are either ignorant Authoritarians or lying Authoritarians. Further, I believe they are a great danger to our freedoms and liberties as long as they are given voice and can inform policy decisions. We have had to rely heavily on the courts to protect us and I

Re: N Korea threatens to 'destroy world'

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:38 PM 1/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: John D. Giorgis wrote: For now, so long as Afghanistan is an inhospitable place for the building of mega-terrorism attacks, then the peace is being won soundly. As the DPRK has demonstrated, the time to put the WMD-genie back in the bottle is rapidly

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:40 PM 1/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: Thats really a good question John. I mean really good. I myself wonder why the most visible face that conservatism presents, that is, the one *I* see most regularly, most clearly, not only tolerates the kind of wackiness I'm

the green eyed monster

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
I'm speaking in general terms here. A friend just passed along info about someone else and it gave me a huge jolt of envy and jealousy. My friend kept asking, what do you think, and I just wanted to change the subject, talk about anything else but that. And I couldn't tell my friend that

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-06 Thread William T Goodall
on 7/1/03 4:48 am, Kevin Tarr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich asked why Amerikka seemed to have such issues while the UK doesn't. I was trying to find this stat, I only found indirect quotes: the US has 40% (seems high) religious participation while the UK has only 2% (seems too low). I

Re: the green eyed monster

2003-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: I'm speaking in general terms here. A friend just passed along info about someone else and it gave me a huge jolt of envy and jealousy. My friend kept asking, what do you think, and I just wanted to change the subject, talk about anything else but that. And I couldn't tell