Re: Suuuuuuuuper Bowl

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:53 PM 1/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: Let us all drop on bended knee and bow our heads in the direction of Tampa Bay. The Bucs rule. Now, Tampa Bay is east of here, right? Do I have to get it within 2 compass degrees, or is just making sure my body is parallel to

Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms]

2003-01-27 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bob Zimm [you never sign your messages. I never know how to address you] wrote: I could not enjoy the story because the science was so flawed. Darwin is turning over in his grave the way his theory was abused. :-))) So I guess you hated the Uplift books because the science is

Re: Worm May Attack Again Monday

2003-01-27 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
I spent the weekend dealing with the aftereffects of this, since it appears the IT team at my employer did NOT bother to download the free security patch for their SQL systems, including the database the has all of the maps used in my department to determine how close excavation activity is to our

bush throwing away more tax dollars

2003-01-27 Thread The Fool
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20030123_1515.html Bush Plan: HUD Funds for Faith Groups Bush Administration Plan Would Allow Religious Groups Access to Federal Housing Money The Associated Press WASHINGTON Jan. 23 — The Bush administration wants to give religious organizations access to

colorado throwing away tax dollars on national motto

2003-01-27 Thread The Fool
More forced religious indoctrination: http://www.bouldernews.com/bdc/news_columnists/article/0,1713,BDC_2421_169 3149,00.html The bill's stated purpose is to foster patriotism, inculcate hope, express confidence in the future and acknowledge the historical role of faith in our society.

The EU is utterly godless. Let's keep it that way

2003-01-27 Thread The Fool
http://argument.independent.co.uk/regular_columnists/joan_smith/story.jsp? story=371878 The EU is utterly godless. Let's keep it that way Its secular values are inclusive, focusing on those ideals the majority agree on, not what divides us Joan Smith 23 January 2003 Should God have an

RE: The EU is utterly godless. Let's keep it that way

2003-01-27 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ... For while there are many values on which believers and non-believers can agree – democracy, freedom of expression, freedom from torture and other degrading treatment – it is not the case

Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ... The Bush administration wants to give religious organizations access to federal housing money that could be used to erect or refurbish buildings where religious activities are held, so

Re: First real post - Hugo Noms

2003-01-27 Thread G. D. Akin
I've never sold anything, but I've found many books that I wanted, and now have, in my collection at abebooks.com. Great service. George A - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Re: First real post - Hugo Noms

Re: Catholics Could Lose Seal of Confession

2003-01-27 Thread Bradford DeLong
Bradford DeLong wrote: But when the Knights Templar were suppressed by Philip the Fair of France and Pope Clement V in 1307, one of the charges was that the Templars confessed only to each other and not to other priests--so that nobody outside the order knew what horrible and foul things were

RE: An Ebay question (was Re: First real post - Hugo Noms)

2003-01-27 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Jim Sharkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 06:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: An Ebay question (was Re: First real post - Hugo Noms) Andrew Crystall wrote: How many of you, as a matter of interest, buy books on Ebay?

Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
From The New York Times. BOSTON ‹ Jaron Friedman, a senior at Boston University, has done his time in the traditional dormitory double: a 180-square-foot box with a stranger in the next bed ‹ his video-game-addicted sophomore roommate was probably one of the worst roommates anyone on this campus

Beware new Nigerian Bush spam scam

2003-01-27 Thread William T Goodall
http://212.100.234.54/content/28/29034.html I AM GEORGE WALKER BUSH, SON OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, AND CURRENTLY SERVING AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS LETTER MIGHT SURPRISE YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MET NEITHER IN PERSON

Re: [Listref] Environment

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: Some of today's posts in this thread are not in the spirit of IAAMOAC, re: personal attacks. :( Some posts in this thread by people with initials such as D.H. are not in the spirit of clear thinking but instead make

Re: protein destroys up to 70% of cancer cells

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Protein 'makes cancer cells self-destruct' A protein has been discovered which causes cancer cells to self-destruct. US researchers have discovered it destroys up to 70% of cancer cells. It regulates the production of a key enzyme involved in the

Re: Suuuuuuuuper Bowl

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:04 AM 1/27/03 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: The after game interviews, […] was cringe worthy. One word for ABC: Heidi. Not Even The First View Of Jennifer Garner Was Worth The Waste Of Time Maru Guess I'm glad we started getting Sammy ready for bed just a

Re: Spammers with no shame

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia Thompson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip p.s. anyone, recommend one of her books to me if you'd like, OK? The Witch World series is her best known work (Witch World, Web of the Witch World, Year of the Unicorn, ... and a dozen or so

Weirdness

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
I just got glasses with a new prescription. To be exact, a new prescription for just one eye, the other is the same as it was before. If I look with just one eye or the other, everything seems reasonable. If I look with both eyes, the floor, the bottom of the monitor screen, the diningroom

Fareed Zakaria on Iraq

2003-01-27 Thread Gautam Mukunda
http://www.msnbc.com/news/864430.asp An excellent article. Zakaria needs no introduction, but I'll give a short one anyways. He's currently the editor of Newsweek International and formerly the editor of Foreign Affairs. He got his PhD at Harvard studying under Stanley Hoffmann and Sam

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: When I went to Aberdeen University in the 1970's every freshman got a private study-bedroom in a hall of residence. This was before the personal computer, but students had their own hifis and tvs. The university had started building these halls in the mid 60's. The idea

Re: [Listref] Environment

2003-01-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:00:30PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: I Was Not Alone In That Observation Maru Neither are lemmings... -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Weirdness

2003-01-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:27:45PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I just got glasses with a new prescription. To be exact, a new prescription for just one eye, the other is the same as it was before. If I look with just one eye or the other, everything seems reasonable. If I look with both

Re: Now I know I am a Netizen!

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- J. van Baardwijk wrote: Debbi Harrell wrote: The Old Ones Made Me Do It Maru Ah yes, the classic blame it on your parents approach... GRIN And now you know why I call myself an Evil Overlady: daddy is a squidhead! From one Evil Overperson to another: Join me, oh Evil

Re: [Listref] Environment

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Listref] Environment On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:00:30PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: I Was Not Alone In That Observation Maru Neither are lemmings...

Re: [Listref] Environment

2003-01-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:43:05PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: An argument based on a faked scene from a Disney movie is rarely convincing. Quite a leap you made there, anyone with you? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: [Listref] Environment

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Listref] Environment On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:43:05PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: An argument based on a faked scene from a Disney movie is rarely

Re: Catholics Could Lose Seal of Confession

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Bradford DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Catholics Could Lose Seal of Confession Bradford DeLong wrote: But when the Knights Templar were suppressed by Philip the Fair of France and Pope

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread jjoc
Quoting Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ... The Bush administration wants to give religious organizations access to federal housing money that could be used to erect or refurbish

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars) Quoting Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 27 Jan 2003 at 19:00, Dan Minette wrote: Bishops do have human faults. But, becoming a priest in order to live a lavish life style is fairly foolish. A priest makes about 15k/year, for goodness sakes. On the level of the diocese, as well as on the parish level, the salary of the priests

Re: Welcome, Jose

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Welcome, Jose Quoting Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Every once in a while, someone I knew long ago finds me on the Internet. Our newest subscriber to Brin-L is

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars) On 27 Jan 2003 at 19:00, Dan Minette wrote: Bishops do have human faults. But,

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars) - Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: About me (was First real post - Hugo Noms)

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Sloan II
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are even books by Frank Bawm at times. Didn't he write the Wizard of Awz? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars) - Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: First real post - Hugo Noms

2003-01-27 Thread Reggie Bautista
Dean wrote: The only Banks I have read is Feersum Endjinn. While quite difficult reading, I did enjoy it. !!! OH!!! *That* Banks! I read Feersum Endjinn when it first came out, and liked it also. When I started reading about The Culture onlist within the past year and a half, I never made

Re: The CIA's Secret Army

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030203-411370,00.html Because of past scandals, the agency had largely dropped its paramilitary operations. But the war on terrorism has brought it back into the business... snip If a

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:49 AM 1/28/2003 +1000, you wrote: William T Goodall wrote: When I went to Aberdeen University in the 1970's every freshman got a private study-bedroom in a hall of residence. This was before the personal computer, but students had their own hifis and tvs. The university had started

Re: Suuuuuuuuper Bowl

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:51 PM 1/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:04 AM 1/27/03 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: The after game interviews, […] was cringe worthy. One word for ABC: Heidi. Not Even The First View Of Jennifer Garner Was Worth The Waste Of Time Maru Guess I'm glad we started

RE: [Humor] Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 32° Fahrenheit (0 ° C) American water freezes. Canadian water gets thicker. But what's IN that water? Some things are better left secret... So *that's* what's going on with that lake up in

Re: Church and state (was RE: bush throwing away more tax dollars)

2003-01-27 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 27 Jan 2003 at 19:19, Robert Seeberger wrote: On 27 Jan 2003 at 19:00, Dan Minette wrote: Bishops do have human faults. But, becoming a priest in order to live a lavish life style is fairly foolish. A priest makes about 15k/year, for goodness sakes. On the level of the

Re: For your amusement - paper towel dispensers

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Friday discussion of paper towel dispensers by TCU faculty members. If you're a little bored and looking for something amusing, this might fit the bill: http://libnt2.lib.tcu.edu/staff/bouchard/papertowels.htm From Adam Eve to the difference

Re: Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms]

2003-01-27 Thread Bemmzim
Bob Zimm [you never sign your messages. I never know how to address you] wrote: I will sign from now on; Bob is what most people call me. . :-))) So I guess you hated the Uplift books because the science is also flawed, with the 17 or so ways of cheating Einstein?

Re: Weirdness

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got glasses with a new prescription. To be exact, a new prescription for just one eye, the other is the same as it was before. If I look with just one eye or the other, everything seems reasonable. If I look with both eyes, the floor,

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The idea of a room-mate as per American TV/movies always seemed so awful I didn't really think it was real. One of the joys of campus life...one roomie had a full-length poster of Burt Reynolds in his birthday-suit - not a cheery sight to

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Sharkey
Deborah Harrell wrote: Russell Chapman wrote: The idea of a room-mate as per American TV/movies always seemed so awful I didn't really think it was real. One of the joys of campus life...one roomie had a full-length poster of Burt Reynolds in his birthday-suit - not a cheery sight to wake up

Re: Suuuuuuuuper Bowl

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 03:51 PM 1/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: Brad Johnson has a cute kid, though. Anyone else remark on that during the milling about before the award presentation? Julia Sure my brother, a friend, and I all talked about how cute his kid was after the game.

Re: Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms]

2003-01-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/27/2003 6:48:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But isn't speciation itself a jump? You can't change from a being with, say, 44 chromosomes per cell to a being with 46 without a jump. A few more thoughts. The notion of an evolutionary jump is

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Chapman
Deborah Harrell wrote: One of the joys of campus life...one roomie had a full-length poster of Burt Reynolds in his birthday-suit - not a cheery sight to wake up with; I walked in on another (and her boyfriend) who'd forgotten to let me know the *do*not*disturb* signal. Then There Was The Time

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy When I was at uni, also in the 70's, we had the exact arrangement discussed in the article - little towers like

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Chapman
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 08:49 AM 1/28/2003 +1000, you wrote: When I was at uni, also in the 70's, we had the exact arrangement discussed in the article - little towers like mini-apartment blocks, with 4 rooms per floor and a common bathroom shared between the 4 residents of that floor. The

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Chapman
Robert Seeberger wrote: How Harry Potterish! G Ha! Never thought of it like that - the potions we were brewing were a little more specific in their purpose, even the herbology experiments had the same goal as the potions experiments... Actually, the boarding house here at work is a lot more

Texas fiction (L3!)

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
After our move in July, everything I was reading in the way of fiction was by a Texas author, up until sometime in September, when I noticed the trend and decided to see how long I could keep it up. As I have a policy of not reading more than 1 book by a given author per month, and I've exhausted

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The idea of a room-mate as per American TV/movies always seemed so awful I didn't really think it was real. One of the joys of campus life...one roomie had a full-length poster of Burt Reynolds in his

Re: Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms]

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/27/2003 6:48:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But isn't speciation itself a jump? You can't change from a being with, say, 44 chromosomes per cell to a being with 46 without a jump. A few more thoughts. The notion

Re: Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms]

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/27/2003 6:48:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: Texas fiction (L3!)

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
You forgot the most important one!!! William Browning Spencer xponent Zod Wallop Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back.

Re: Texas fiction (L3!)

2003-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: You forgot the most important one!!! William Browning Spencer xponent Zod Wallop Maru I don't *have* any Spencer to have been reading. Should I start with _Zod Wallop_? Or would you recommend something else? (I also didn't list Bill Crider among the

Re: Colleges Offer Students Privacy

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:21 PM 1/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The idea of a room-mate as per American TV/movies always seemed so awful I didn't really think it was real. One of the joys of campus life...one roomie had a full-length

Re: Texas fiction (L3!)

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
Were you looking for more authors? (okay I see you weren't) How about: http://mostlyfiction.com/west/mcmurtry.htm#bio Larry McMurtry was born in Wichita Falls,Texas in 1936. His father and eight uncles were all ranchers. He graduated with honors from Archer City High School, received his B.A.

Re: Fareed Zakaria on Iraq

2003-01-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/864430.asp An excellent article. snip It presents the potentially good outcomes of a (more-or-less unilateral?) American invasion of Iraq very well; Saddam's downfall is without question desirable. The same Newsweek issue

Re: Suuuuuuuuper Bowl

2003-01-27 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:04 AM 1/27/03 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: The after game interviews, [...] was cringe worthy. One word for ABC: Heidi. Not Even The First View Of Jennifer Garner Was Worth The Waste Of Time Maru John Madden is still head and shoulders above anyone else

Re: Texas fiction (L3!)

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Texas fiction (L3!) Robert Seeberger wrote: You forgot the most important one!!! William Browning Spencer xponent Zod Wallop Maru I

Re: Fareed Zakaria on Iraq

2003-01-27 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gautam Mukunda wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/864430.asp An excellent article. Zakaria needs no introduction, but I'll give a short one anyways. He's currently the editor of Newsweek International and formerly the editor of Foreign Affairs. He got his PhD at Harvard studying under Stanley

Re: Fareed Zakaria on Iraq

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Chapman
Doug Pensinger wrote: Who could disagree with most of what he is saying? But why not keep working with our allies and the U.N. and keep the pressure on Hussain while continuing to support internal dissent. Actively seeking a peaceful solution has the potential of reaping all or most of

Scouted: Videotaping How Bugs Breathe

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Gabriel
Original press release at the Field Museum of Chicago can be found at: http://www.fieldmuseum.org/museum_info/press/press_insect.htm Jon Stuck on top of tower. Great view, but constant pelting sleet not good for pointy hat. Am amusing self by spitting gum down on the Orcs. From: The Very Secret

RE: Darwin Radio [was: First real post - Hugo Noms]

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Gabriel
Couple of sources: (Oh, and Dr. Zim, your spelling of Richard Goldschmidt was inventive. :)) Jon Stuck on top of tower. Great view, but constant pelting sleet not good for pointy hat. Am amusing self by spitting gum down on the Orcs. From: The Very Secret Diary of Gandalf the Grey

Humor: When you're happy and you know it bomb Iraq

2003-01-27 Thread Doug Pensinger
Posted on the Culture list, no attribution: When you're happy and you know it bomb Iraq If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq. If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq. If the terrorists are frisky, Pakistan is looking shifty, North Korea is too risky, Bomb Iraq. If we have no allies with us, bomb