Re: Wank.

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Baker
John said: Alex, What is what Bill Clinton had to do once Monica was uncovered? Wouldn't when Monica was uncovered be a time that he didn't have to do that? Rich GCU Uncovered/Disrobed/Whatever ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Amusement

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
LOL, almost roling on the floor. George A - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:28 PM Subject: Amusement http://www.nextmill.net/vids/nerds.wmv A dog puppet from Late Night with Conan O'Brien makes fun

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-07 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Andrew Crystall wrote: The EU at least has a *strong* judicial branch. One which dopsn't roll over to companies like M$. The Belgians might think a bit differently. Seen the upheavel over their judicial system. Else I do agree. The judicial system in the EU is pretty independent from company

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: I don't, really. But several reports out of Iraq that I've seen and heard contain a notes about how the locals consider the Iraqi exile community a bunch of elitists who escaped when the going got tough and who hope to lord it over the rest when they return

Re: [L3] Re: Afghanistan Success?

2003-02-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:30:42PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: Rebuilding Afghanistan will cost roughly $15 billion over the next ten years. One year's NASA budget. The United States pledged $297 million in Tokyo and has already more than met its initial one-year commitment to Afghan

Re: Fwd: Candlestick Rocket Ship

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:12 PM 2/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 10:15 AM 2/5/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: As long as it doesn't get dumped down the sink and solidify, causing a nasty clog, what's the problem? :) Julia Been there, done that, took apart the drain pipes The people who clean the Harman

You BRAT!

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
BRAT? Can you elaborate, or at least expand? I have a friend who regularly stops getting food at the certain establishment for a couple of months. (I think her problem is that onions get into things that onions aren't supposed to be in, though.) The worst case of food poisoning from a

Re: Fwd: Candlestick Rocket Ship

2003-02-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:10 AM 2/7/03 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 08:12 PM 2/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 10:15 AM 2/5/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: As long as it doesn't get dumped down the sink and solidify, causing a nasty clog, what's the problem? :) Julia Been there, done that, took apart the

UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Baker
This is interesting reading: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,890916,00.html Here's some more commentary by Charles Stross: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blosxom.cgi/2003/Feb/6#wartime-7 Rich, who's glad that we aren't paying for all those expensive spies and analysts for

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:20 PM 2/6/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: If that's true, why are they wasting a golden opportunity in Afganistan? I take exception to this. First, the rest of the world has hardly borne their full share of the load in rebuilding Afghanistan, You know better than to believe it would.

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 07:10:11AM -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: Dan, you have to check the L-cap on your keyboard. The tax cut is widely focused on the Americans who pay the taxes. Kevin, you have to check the supporting-data-cap on your keyboard. Your comment is entirely uncredible. -- Erik

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Ray Ludenia
http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/2003/02/06/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't, really. But several reports out of Iraq that I've seen and heard contain a notes about how the locals consider the Iraqi exile community a bunch of elitists who escaped when the going got tough and who hope to lord it over the rest

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: I consider the Bush administration a bunch of wealthy elitists who lived a charmed life, but I don't judge them on that but rather on what they do. Maybe the Iraqi people would do the same? Anything's possible, I suppose. I'm not sure the parallel is

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To speculate that the Bush Administration would abandon Iraq is to speculate that the Bush Administration is profoundly incompetent - and only the most blinded of partisans do so. Will the nation building in Iraq be on the same scale as the

Re: Wank.

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote: But just in case I suggest that everyone begin having sex as often as possible in order to make the list a funnier place filled with happier people! G Excellent idea! Just remember to lay a towel on the carpet before you break out the candle

Re: [L3] Re: Afghanistan Success?

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to read the last 3/4 of the article that discusses the room for improvement in Afghanistan, you'll have to buy the article from The Economsit. :) I added a few links on that.

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote: Preemptive conquest and nation-building looks a lot like colonialism to a lot of people, especially the conquered. What evidence do you have of this? Does your statement here match what we know about the reactions of the people of

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote: re: white man's burden I see this as a bitter diatribe against imperialism and not so much as a ralling cry for colonialism. Of course I am not a Kipling expert and my interpretation is only informed by my own experience writing poetry. I find the

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq We find, not surprisingly, that whites do better than the overall population. But, the

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The White man's burden has been sung. Who will sing the Brown man's? Mark Twain On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Of course not. Surely you don't expect anyone to believe that that was the goal of European colonialism? Or

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my (admittedly slight) knowledge Kipling was a critic of abusive colonial practices (and of what struck him as a naive American enthusiasm for colonialism in the Phillipines) but a supporter of the idea of a Christian colonial empire. I see

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:22 6-2-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: I would say that it certainly will be much greater, if just for the difference in strategic reasons and the ready availability of oil revenue to the first Iraqi republic to finance its own development. Why would post-war Iraq be the first Iraqi

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote: As far as I can tell you're so caught up in the rush of condemning what they did that you're kind of missing what was really going on. No one's defending the Empire as an altruistic endeavor. The extent to which it _was_ conducted in a not-so-bad

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, J. van Baardwijk wrote: Why would post-war Iraq be the first Iraqi republic? Iraq is *already* a republic. In name only. Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:17 AM Subject: Re: war and peace At 22:22 6-2-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: I would say that it certainly will be much greater, if just for the difference in

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Baker
Gautam said: 3. We're doing more in Afghanistan than you seem to think we're doing. The Karzai government is still standing, after all, and we just fought a fairly major battle there to suppress one of the warlords. Air support for this battle was provided by Norwegian F-16s, the first time

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:52 7-2-2003 +, you wrote: This is interesting reading: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,890916,00.html Here's some more commentary by Charles Stross: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blosxom.cgi/2003/Feb/6#wartime-7 Oh wow. And this fraud was made public only *a few days*

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Baker
Jeroen said: Oh wow. And this fraud was made public only *a few days* after Colin Powell presented his evidence to the UN. It makes me wonder what else in the evidence will be exposed as lies and falsifications in the next few weeks... Along those lines, this is also interesting:

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Richard Baker
Gautam said: 2. If Britain had peacefully left its colonies in, say, 1910 or so, I think we would say that, on the whole, the British Empire did good for the world. They held on too long I think it's not so much that they held on too long, but that they left too suddenly. A more coherent,

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh wow. And this fraud was made public only *a few days* after Colin Powell presented his evidence to the UN. It makes me wonder what else in the evidence will be exposed as lies and falsifications in the next few weeks... Plenty, I

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Air support for this battle was provided by Norwegian F-16s, the first time the Norwegian airforce has seen combat since WW2. So there's another European (but not, of course, EU) country projecting force across a substantial distance, even if

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Well, Bush's rhetoric is partly aimed at an American audience, and I think largely reflects his own feelings. Post-colonial powers may understand that. But the nations who used to be colonial powers will laugh at that because the cynicism of Old

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote: He definitely felt it was the right thing to do. Kipling was the poet of Empire. Kipling's Recessional, though (probably my favorite Kipling poem) was a warning against Imperial hubris - it's probably the one poem every American should be required

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq In particular, I wonder how this will influence our view of Germany. If there is any country that should be most enthusiastic

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given what you said, and I agree with the lack of morality involved in the actions of the German companies, what would you say about an American company that sold him prohibited equipment that contained hardware that could _very easily_ be

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:03 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq At 07:45 7-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Oh wow. And this fraud was made public only *a few days* after Colin Powell

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: Nothing in the report was exposed as lies or falsifications, and no one has disputed the accuracy of what it says. And what about the piece Rich posted? Doug Haven't seen it, so

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Re: war and peace First, these arguments smell awful strongly of simply being a list-ditch effort of the peaceniks to

Re: Wank.

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: But just in case I suggest that everyone begin having sex as often as possible in order to make the list a funnier place filled with happier people! G That is a great suggestion. :) Julia ___

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:43 7-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: But no one denies that the Hussein government employs a level of brutality and terror like only a few regimes in history Undoubtedly true. However, brutality is not the reason why the US wants to invade Iraq. The reason given for the war is Iraq

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:21 7-2-2003 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Let me get this straight. You are accusing Powell of fabricating evidence? Its all made up because the poor misunderstood Mr Hussein, who is trying so hard to lead his Republic into a bright new future is being slanded by the big bad United States?

Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index.html Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives Excerpt: AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) -- In what may be the wave of the future, Dell Computer said goodbye to the past on Thursday when it announced it would stop making floppy disk drives

Irregulars stupid question: SQL

2003-02-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I am running SQL under Linux, and I am trying to write something... Well, nevermind. Is it safe to issue the command createuser nobody using the account postgres? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: Let me get this straight. You are accusing Powell of fabricating evidence? Well (this is the article that Rich ghosted) No casus belli? Invent one! As Colin Powell presents evidence to the UN to justify war, Maggie O'Kane argues that the US's justification for the

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:26:19 +0100 At 08:43 7-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: But no one denies that the Hussein government employs a level of brutality and terror like only a few regimes in history Undoubtedly

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:49 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Ridiculous. This is precisely the type of quote that sounds just great as a sound-bite and reflects nothing about the real world.

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a speech by, IIRC, Schroeder recently. He mentioned (paraphrasing) that Germany is opposed against war against Iraq, because the German people, having been in the center of two world wars, realise that going to war is never the solution

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
I'm cool either way, but I have no idea what piece y'all are referring to. I might have deleted the e-mail by mistake - I'm at work, and so blurring through them pretty fast while I calculate stuff. Gautam --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Doug

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Minette wrote: Let me get this straight. You are accusing Powell of fabricating evidence? Well (this is the article that Rich ghosted) No casus belli? Invent one! As Colin Powell presents evidence to the UN to justify war,

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq I'm cool either way, but I have no idea what piece y'all are referring to. I might have deleted the e-mail by mistake - I'm at

Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!

2003-02-07 Thread Mortgage Clearing House
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Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Unless someone is claiming that Iraq did not, in fact, invade Kuwait, what is the point of this? I think the point, which you

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: Austin, Texas-based Dell, the No. 2 personal computer maker, said floppy drives had been overtaken by technologies offering greater storage capacity and would become an option on its Dimension 8250 models. I thought the corporate HQ had moved to Round

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Minette wrote: Let me get this straight. You are accusing Powell of fabricating evidence? Well (this is the article that Rich ghosted) No casus belli? Invent one! As Colin Powell presents evidence

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:47:12PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: The simulation I did was

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Dan Minette wrote: Because that type of idealism is at the foundation of the US. Lincoln said the US was the last, best hope of mankind. Is manifest destiny the only language of idealism at hand? Why do you keep on using loaded terms that do not relate to the

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug just posted it. I actually have a verisimilitude question on this. By 1991, we were already in the media frenzy phase, where even tabloid stories quickly made the rounds. If the proof of fabrication was evident in 1991, why didn't the NY

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 7 Feb 2003 at 12:38, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index.h tml Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives My floppy drive died about 6 months ago and I've not bothered to replace it. Between network, wireless network, ZIP drive and CD-RW I

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Damon
I thought the corporate HQ had moved to Round Rock. I coulda *sworn* all those nice new office buildings on Louis Henna Blvd. in Round Rock that I drive by a couple of times a week were corporate HQ buildings. They are at RR. They have more than one office. I know; I used to do collections

CP Int on Salon

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
I've now gotten responded to 3 offlist requests for today's Camille Paglia salon.com interview. If anyone else wants it, let me know and I'll send. BTW, I am totally willing to copy and send offlist any salon.com article that I'm asked for by name, but I am not a clipping service. :) Please

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: Re: war and peace What I hear coming through Bush is a belief on the part of the Republican leadership and his administration that the US is God's

More on Afghanistan

2003-02-07 Thread J.D. Giorgis
AFGHANISTAN: ISAF Commander Says Force Needs Three More Years UN WIRE The International Security Assistance Force must stay in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul, two or three more years to ensure security and stability, the commander of the force said yesterday. [snip] The establishment of

Re: Sick Nick

2003-02-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Nick wrote: Spent from 1:20 yesterday afternoon to about 8 p.m. in the E.R. with an acute abdomen that hit me like a freight train just as a meeting was starting. [snip] Definitely sorry to hear that, best wishes for a speedy recovery. Reggie Bautista

Re: CP Int on Salon

2003-02-07 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
It's a good article. On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: I've now gotten responded to 3 offlist requests for today's Camille Paglia salon.com interview. If anyone else wants it, let me know and I'll send. BTW, I am totally willing to copy and send offlist any salon.com article that

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:49 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Ridiculous. This is precisely the type of quote that sounds just great as a sound-bite and reflects nothing about the real world. War is sometimes necessary. At the risk of repeating myself, one can argue logically and convincingly that the most

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: I was thinking that perhaps I would try and pick up the slack where JDG left off and volunteer to try my hand at a chapter by chapter summary of a Brin book of the list's choosing. So, I have a couple of questions and requests before I volunteer: a) Which book would we like to

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
Some accidentally-pressed key combination caused my reply to be sent before being finished... At 12:49 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Ridiculous. This is precisely the type of quote that sounds just great as a sound-bite and reflects nothing about the real world. War is sometimes

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Kevin Tarr wrote: Time to enjoy a nice venison dinner, totally produced by me from hoof to table. Julia replied: WOW! You gave birth to Bambi? Now I'm *really* impressed! Kevin retorted: No but I took her home and Thumper. Julia responded: I haven't seen Thumper very much at

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:38 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Time to enjoy a nice venison dinner, totally produced by me from hoof to table. Julia replied: WOW! You gave birth to Bambi? Now I'm *really* impressed! Kevin retorted: No but I took her home and Thumper. Julia responded:

Re: B5 dvd

2003-02-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Concerning the B5 DVD's, Jim (I think) wrote: Man, I need to get these. I tired to talk Santa into bringing them, but I was thwarted. And they're cheap, relative to ST:TNG especially. Julia replied: I wouldn't know about ST:TNG, but I know that ST:TOS just seems to be available on DVDs

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:22:57 +0100 At 12:49 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Ridiculous. This is precisely the type of quote that sounds just great as a sound-bite

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:25:02 -0600 Jon wrote: I was thinking that perhaps I would try and pick up the slack where JDG left

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:36:24 +0100 At 12:38 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer

gi joe

2003-02-07 Thread The Fool
Yo Joe! He'll fight for freedom where ever there's trouble. GI Joe is there. It's GI Joe against Qaida and Dubya Fighting to save the day. He never gives up. He's always there, Fighting for freedom over land and air GI Joe- A real American hero GI Joe is there GI Joe is the codename for

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: I haven't seen Thumper here at all, but every time it snows, I see lots of Thumper tracks in both the front and back yards. And given the amount of woods and fields around here, I'm really surprised that I've seen no evidence of Bambi at all. Kevin, have you been exceeding your

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of use and favor, but

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Damon
At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
I have little device called a Zio! by Microtech. I have an iPAQ and a Nikon Coolpix 885, both of which use Compact flash. I have a 256MB CF in both of them. Whenever I want to copy pictures or load documents or spreadsheets, I just place the CF in the Zio! and plug it into the USB port and

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:19:30 +0900 The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-07 Thread G. D. Akin
How about Bear's Moving Mars? Just a thought. George A P.S. I rather enjoyed it. - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:56 AM Subject: Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 02:28 PM 2/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Time to enjoy a nice venison dinner, totally produced by me from hoof to table. Julia replied: WOW! You gave birth to Bambi? Now I'm *really* impressed! Kevin retorted: No but I took her home and Thumper. Julia

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: war and peace On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote: re: white man's burden I see this as a bitter diatribe against imperialism and not so

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
Jon wrote: I was thinking that perhaps I would try and pick up the slack where JDG left off and volunteer to try my hand at a chapter by chapter summary of a Brin book of the list's choosing. So, I have a couple of questions and requests before I volunteer: a) Which book would we like to

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
Julia was kind enough to forward me JDG's 1st 3 chapter analyses of Glory Season. (Thanks Julia!) I'll be fine with whatever the list decides regarding a book (Brin or Not). It's 2/7. I'll wait until 2/28, tally the votes/suggestions and then start reading and writing. I think 3 weeks should

Re: [L3] Re: Afghanistan Success?

2003-02-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is that the peace of warlords who are fighting for control of the country outside of Kabul and a few other cities? I'm really not trying to be snide here, but having to run a gauntlet of various

Re: war and peace

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:41 AM Subject: Re: war and peace Gautam said: 2. If Britain had peacefully left its colonies in, say, 1910 or so, I think we would say that, on the whole, the

prisoner's dilemma

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
This is from NPR Car Talk. I couldn't see the answer. You can post the answer if you want to and win a prize, I won't post if someone answers on the list. http://cartalk.cars.com/Radio/Puzzler/Transcripts/200305/index.html RAY: I got this from my pal, Stan Zdonik, who teaches at Brown

RE: Sick Nick

2003-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julia Thompson ... Oh, and if you're pretty sure that's the place you got it from, tell your doctor. Could be a public health issue, and if so, they could probably use every data point they can get.

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:03 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq At 07:45 7-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Oh wow. And this fraud was made public only *a few days* after Colin Powell

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
Kevin Tarr wrote: Time to enjoy a nice venison dinner, totally produced by me from hoof to table. Julia replied: WOW! You gave birth to Bambi? Now I'm *really* impressed! Kevin retorted: No but I took her home and Thumper. snip Tiny point: Bambi was a stag. Maybe

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
In particular, I wonder how this will influence our view of Germany. If there is any country that should be most enthusiastic for freeing people from a genocidal dictator, it is Germany. Instead of that, though, we see Germany refusing to help under _any_ circumstances, _and_ what

Re: UK dossier on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq At 08:43 7-2-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: But no one denies that the Hussein government employs a level of brutality and

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:05 PM 2/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Time to enjoy a nice venison dinner, totally produced by me from hoof to table. Julia replied: WOW! You gave birth to Bambi? Now I'm *really* impressed! Kevin retorted: No but I took her home and Thumper. snip

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:59:27PM -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: Or Against a Dark Background. I'd be game for that one. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!

2003-02-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Mortgage Clearing House [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House! /root/8e8Ta4: Permission denied ___

Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies

2003-02-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:04:47PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: (I still remember her ripping them apart and shredding them to bits when she was done. Ruined a shredder, too.) That wasn't too bright. Didn't she notice that 3.5 floppies have some substantial pieces of metal on them that would

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 06:16 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 03:05 PM 2/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Time to enjoy a nice venison dinner, totally produced by me from hoof to table. Julia replied: WOW! You gave birth to Bambi? Now I'm *really* impressed! Kevin retorted:

Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!

2003-02-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:26:12PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Mortgage Clearing House [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root/8e8Ta4: Permission denied ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Thank you O great spirit of the list,

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