At 04:06 PM 10/16/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
But let's be fair. If infanticide were legal, a ten %
drop in the rate would not stop you from being boiling
mad. The real problem isn't pragmatic but
philosophical. As romantics, each neocon subgroup
must go for a whole loaf, never part of one.
--- JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 04:06 PM 10/16/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
But let's be fair. If infanticide were legal, a
ten %
drop in the rate would not stop you from being
boiling
mad. The real problem isn't pragmatic but
philosophical. As romantics, each neocon subgroup
must
d.brin wrote:
The one MUST READ for the weekend is Ron Suskind's piece on Dubya in the
New York Times Magazine, Without A Doubt.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?oref=loginpagewanted=printposition
This article paints a believable and deeply disturbing picture to me, in
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At 04:06 PM 10/16/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
But let's be fair. If
On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
d.brin wrote:
The one MUST READ for the weekend is Ron Suskind's piece on Dubya in
the New York Times Magazine, Without A Doubt.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?
oref=loginpagewanted=printposition
Who's in charge in the
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Sorry, I didn't finish a thought.
But, the legal system doesn't have murky linesIt can't. The
present,
On 18 Oct 2004, at 6:54 pm, Dave Land wrote:
On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
d.brin wrote:
The one MUST READ for the weekend is Ron Suskind's piece on Dubya in
the New York Times Magazine, Without A Doubt.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?
On Oct 18, 2004, at 11:27 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 18 Oct 2004, at 6:54 pm, Dave Land wrote:
On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
d.brin wrote:
The one MUST READ for the weekend is Ron Suskind's piece on Dubya
in the New York Times Magazine, Without A Doubt.
On 18 Oct 2004, at 8:04 pm, Dave Land wrote:
On Oct 18, 2004, at 11:27 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 18 Oct 2004, at 6:54 pm, Dave Land wrote:
On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
d.brin wrote:
The one MUST READ for the weekend is Ron Suskind's piece on Dubya
in the New York Times
William T Goodall wrote:
Religious ideas aren't 'opinions', they are counterfactual statements
about the nature of the world.
How about extra-factual?
Nick
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On 18 Oct 2004, at 10:09 pm, Nick Arnett wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
Religious ideas aren't 'opinions', they are counterfactual statements
about the nature of the world.
How about extra-factual?
Stuff like the Earth being 4000 years old, or people getting
reincarnated as bugs, or coming
On 18 Oct 2004, at 10:46 pm, Nick Arnett wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
How about extra-factual?
Stuff like the Earth being 4000 years old, or people getting
reincarnated as bugs, or coming back from the dead, or insert
endless catalogue of bizarre drivel. There's other stuff that is
merely
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/List_of_U.S._Presidents_by_military_s
ervice
Interesting for you history buffs.
xponent
George Washington #1 Maru
rob
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I'm afraid I'm very young; I wasn't around for the 70s. By what
precisely was the Left hijacked by then? (I know the 30s one;
refusing to recognize the true colors of the communists.)
~Maru
From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This week it was that enormous payoff to big corporations by
their
And what would you advocate? Converting to humanism by the sword?
Better to reach an accomadation and convert by example, or work
to improve the world so that those -isms are no longer valid or
convincing.
~Maru
From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, would you argue that compromise is the
IMOO, I think the Left is slowly moving, as fast as is
acceptable, to a sentience definition of humanity, which is to
say, the more counsciousness one possesses, the more 'human'.
Now this is defintely slowed by reactions left over from the
early IQ tests and Nazis, but I think it is definitely
http://www.electoral-vote.com/info/military-service.html
Democrats
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, etc
Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/Bronze Stars, Vietnam
Bill Clinton: Did not
Donald Savage
Headquarters, WashingtonOct. 18, 2004
(Phone: 202/358-1727)
Whitney Clavin
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
(Phone: 818/354-4673)
RELEASE: 04-347
ASTRONOMERS DISCOVER PLANET BUILDING IS BIG MESS
Planets are built over a long period of massive collisions between
While watching the Farscape miniseries, I've caught several advertisements for an
Earthsea miniseries. Surprisingly, given that it *is* SciFi network, and they hate
their fans, it looks like it might be pretty good. Anyone else looking forward to it?
Jim
At 06:36 PM 10/18/2004 -0500 Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
So who is Maru?
I thought it was you! ;-)
JDG - Courage, Maru. ;-)
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The liberty we prize is not America's
Finally, the belief in absolutes is not a Romantic notion. Faith in
thetrancendental is definatly a part of the enlightenment. Kant, the
quintessential Enlightenment philosopher, speaks very clearly towards
that.Jefferson penned such a faith statement in the Declaration of
Independance.
On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:35 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
Not all ideas are equal. Some, like '2 + 2 =5' or religion, are just
plain wrong.
Hey, for sufficiently large values of 2, 2 + 2 = 5.
If you're rounding in what you're showing, but still *carrying* the
value of the number,
Maru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMOO, I think the Left is slowly moving, as fast as is
acceptable, to a sentience definition of humanity, which is to
say, the more counsciousness one possesses, the more 'human'.
yes and this angers those who want prim dividing lines.
But That's not what
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:46:14 -0500, Robert G. Seeberger
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http://www.wordiq.com/definition/List_of_U.S._Presidents_by_military_s
ervice
Interesting for you history buffs.
The rank order seems quite odd. The Army/Navy lieutenant variants are
mixed together, with some
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:53:32 -0500, Robert G. Seeberger
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http://www.electoral-vote.com/info/military-service.html
Seems just a wee tiny bit slanted...
From this list, you'd think 95% of Dems served and maybe 10% of
Republicans. I don't know what the real percentages
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