At 07:30 AM 1/15/2005 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:
I find Brad's predictions of ugliness reasonable, considering the
administration's starting point.
Of course you do.you're not exactly a non-partisan yourself.
I hear Bush warning us of financial
instruments of mass destruction and I
At 10:35 PM 1/16/2005 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
1. How far would the tweaks I mentioned (and whatever other practical
steps can be taken) do towards actually fixing the system as it now
exists?
I must have missed that post, so I can't answer that one.
2. What is the advantage of having the
Is there a second source confirming this? I've always had some doubts about
the Guardian...
If true, and the US does undertake strikes against Iran, I predict yet
another political -- and possibly military -- disaster. Such an attack
would again play into the hands of the Jihadists,
JDG wrote:
There is no excess money in the system. Every dime of Social
Security taxes collected in excess of current payments is currently
being spent by
the rest of the Federal Government.
Misappropriated?
After all that spending is done, the
US Government is still borrowing on the order
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:35:17 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a second source confirming this? I've always had some doubts about
the Guardian...
The Guardian is reporting a story in the New Yorker.
Martin
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Special forces 'on the ground' in Iran
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:35:17 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a
At 08:35 AM 1/17/2005 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
There is no excess money in the system. Every dime of Social
Security taxes collected in excess of current payments is currently
being spent by
the rest of the Federal Government.
Misappropriated?
It depends if you think that it would
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:02 +, Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:35:17 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a second source confirming this? I've always had some doubts
about
the Guardian...
The Guardian is reporting a story in the New Yorker.
John wrote:
It depends if you think that it would be wiser for the Social Security
Administration to simply put hundreds billions of dollars in vault - or
else invest hundreds of billions of dollars in equities. Is this what
you believe?
What's the problem with investing the money? What would
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:47:34 -0600, Dan Minette
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From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:35:17 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a second source confirming this? I've always had some doubts
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Special forces 'on the ground' in Iran
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:47:34 -0600, Dan Minette
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On Monday 2005-01-17 03:19, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote:
* Trent Shipley [Sat, 15/01/2005 at 11:59 -0700]
http://www.holocenechat.com/
==
If you are interested please, reply to Brin-L. (Effectively this is a
blank-check form of RSVP.)
I'm interested. Provided that there is a
Trent Shipley invited:
If you are interested please, reply to
Brin-L. (Effectively this is a
blank-check form of RSVP.)
Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can see one problem: the regular chatters
are Mac or Linux users, and I imagine that the
holochat software is Windoze-based.
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:55:46 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* maru dubshinki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
But if you suspect I am some old foe, or new adversary, out to entrap
you or that I intend some other nefarious practising on you, just ask
me.
If you were not posting
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:44:01 -0500, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:30 AM 1/15/2005 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:
I find Brad's predictions of ugliness reasonable, considering the
administration's starting point.
Of course you do.you're not exactly a non-partisan yourself.
Pot -
On Jan 17, 2005, at 8:44 AM, JDG wrote:
And BTW, please explain for me the difference between Bill Clinton's
views
on WMD's and the Bush Administration's views of WMD's in Iraq.
Did
Bill Clinton fool you once, shame on you??
Bill didn't get us into an interminable morass of a war.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:54:40 -0600, Dan Minette
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He does. But, those contacts also use him in internal political games.
Agreed.
If he reported there was a number of American deaths in an Afghan
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To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Special forces 'on the ground' in Iran
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:54:40 -0600, Dan Minette
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:47:17 -0600, Dan Minette
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To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Special forces 'on the ground' in Iran
On Mon, 17
On 17 Jan 2005, at 12:12 am, Trent Shipley wrote:
David Brin filters the list so that he only sees subject lines
containing
Brin:. To get Dr. Brin uptodate seven regulars have contributed to
the
thread so far. Steve Sloan, Vilyem/Medievalbk, Gary Nunn, and Robert
Seeberger have all expressed
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:00:05 -0600, Robert G. Seeberger
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1018065,00.html
The Bush Administration has not yet offered details of its plan for
Social Security, but it's expected to follow the contours of a
proposal
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From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Special forces 'on the ground' in Iran
This may really get into a CIA - Special Forces dispute where probably
someone was
I see another paper is willing to use the l word against Bush.
Dan and other looking into details might want to read this.
Editorial: Social Security/Blacks get more, not less, from it
http://www.startribune.com/stories/561/5187689.html
Of all the lies -- let's call them by their right name --
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:52:29 -0600, Dan Minette
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This may really get into a CIA - Special Forces dispute where probably
someone was disparaging the special forces versus using CIA forces.
Another
A recent speech at the Commonwealth Club asks disturbing questions.and
finds disturbing answers.
Excerpt -
With fond memories, a heavy heart and a desire for progress, I say to
you tonight that...
Environmentalism is dead.
Every significant indicator of global environmental health is heading
in
On 17 Jan 2005, at 12:12 am, Trent Shipley wrote:
David Brin filters the list so that he only sees
subject lines containing Brin:. To get Dr.
Brin uptodate seven regulars have contributed to
the thread so far.
Steve Sloan, Vilyem/Medievalbk, Gary Nunn, and
Robert
Seeberger have
In the last paragraph, you meant 'did not' right?
But don't give up hope. The Kyoto protocol still passed. People are
still aware of enviromental problems (despite crappy propaganda like
Crichton's State of Fear'.), and there is potential in the religious
right: Didn't Genesis say we were
On Jan 17, 2005, at 1:46 PM, David Brin wrote:
Below is the list of those I already see interested.
Anyone else?
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Doug Pensinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
,William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Best to you all.
I'll give it a go if you're interested in a
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:50:11 -0500, maru dubshinki
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In the last paragraph, you meant 'did not' right?
Sigh, yes, I write and hit enter.
But don't give up hope. The Kyoto protocol still passed. People are
still aware of enviromental problems (despite crappy
Boston Globe
http://tinyurl.com/595f7
The myth of partisan gridlock
By Robert Kuttner | January 12, 2005
THERE'S A standard story about partisan gridlock: The American electorate is
mostly middle of the road. The voters want the parties to work together and
solve national problems. Both
On Jan 17, 2005, at 1:50 PM, maru dubshinki wrote:
and there is potential in the religious right: Didn't Genesis say we
were put here to tend and care for the Earth?
Actually I believe the commonest interpretation is dominion rather
than stewardship:
And God said, Let us make man in our
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To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Is environmentalism dead?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:50:11 -0500, maru dubshinki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the last paragraph, you
I was thinking of Gen 2:15: 'The Lord God then took the man and settled
him in the garden of Eden, to cultivate and care for it.' But then
again, my translation is 'The New American Bible', and I'm not sure of
its trustworthiness.
~Maru
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Jan 17, 2005, at 1:50 PM, maru
On Jan 17, 2005, at 2:45 PM, maru dubshinki wrote:
I was thinking of Gen 2:15: 'The Lord God then took the man and
settled him in the garden of Eden, to cultivate and care for it.' But
then again, my translation is 'The New American Bible', and I'm not
sure of its trustworthiness.
Well, that's
A little relevent to this discussion is a company I am debating
sending a resume out to.
http://www.pertmaster.com/riskEducation/QuickRisk.htm
They use Monte Carlo analysis or Latin Hypercube sampling.in their
risk management software.
Gary Denton
D Brin wrote...
Below is the list of those I already see interested.
Anyone else?
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Doug Pensinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
,William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
I'm in. Gary Nunn
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Dan Minette wrote:
And, remember, the US is one of only 3 developed countries that are not
considered in deep doggie do-do over demographic changes.
Only 3? That seems strangely low, though clearly there are many western
nations with a bleak outlook. Who are the other 2?
Cheers
Russell C.
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From: Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Is environmentalism dead?
Dan Minette wrote:
And, remember, the US is one of only 3 developed countries that are not
Also the books were written over a lengthy period and the first was (I
think) initially developed in a pre-writing culture,
IIRC the Bible (specifically the Old Testament) was primarily a collection
of histories, laws, and stories that originated from the *oral* traditions
of the original
Great Britain and Australia.
That's interesting. If I were to guess I would've put Canada in the above...
Damon.
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html
Now
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From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Special forces 'on the ground' in Iran
Is there a second source confirming this? I've always had some
doubts about
the
At 10:28 PM 1/13/2005 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law,
including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services
in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.
If the [Social Security] Trust
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Cc: Bill House [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Burgess
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: Holocene Chat
Below is the list of those I already see
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From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Is environmentalism dead?
Great Britain and Australia.
That's interesting. If I were to guess I would've put Canada in the
At 08:59 AM 1/17/2005 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
John wrote:
It depends if you think that it would be wiser for the Social Security
Administration to simply put hundreds billions of dollars in vault - or
else invest hundreds of billions of dollars in equities. Is this what
you believe?
JDG wrote:
Well one important difference is that in the case of the former, the SSA,
by investing hundreds of billions in equities would be a pretty
influential mover of equity markets.In the case of the latter,
individualized
decision-making woudl presumably iron out those effects some.
Trent wrote-
If you are interested please, reply to Brin-L. (Effectively this is a
blank-check form of RSVP.)
News from Wm. T. Goodall would be particularly apropos.
I am not the most techno-savvy, but I am willing to try HC
(especially if you give me training wheels). This might be
a great
http://www.changar.com/text/bushmail.html
xponent
In The Mail Maru
rob
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Rob sent-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1392078,00.html
American special forces have been on the ground inside Iran scouting
for US air strike targets for suspected nuclear weapons sites,
according to the renowned US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.
In an article in the
On Monday 2005-01-17 20:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rob sent-
Simple minded, but I don't see a whole lot here to get worked up
about. Seems like a few things strung together for a bit of
sensation... but I don't often get calls for political consultations.
That may be, but assuming we
David Brin wrote:
Below is the list of those I already see interested.
Anyone else?
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Doug Pensinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
,William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Please include Steve Sloan, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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