--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there's nothing wrong with opposing the
unjustifiable attack on
Iraq, why are you so committed to twisting the tits
of everyone who
does oppose it?
Because so many of them say things like calling it
unjustifiable, when, of course, it's
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there's nothing wrong with opposing the
unjustifiable attack on
Iraq, why are you so committed to twisting the tits
of everyone who
does oppose it?
Because so many of them say things like calling it
At 12:10 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:49 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:59 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
though there's some wiggle room there -- IIRC the original text had it
as behold, a young woman shall conceive.
Which is correct, afaik.
At 10:58 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:59 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Not really. Virgin conception is impossible,
I am not a fertility specialist, nor do I play one on TV, but even I can
think of ways to implant a fertilized egg in a
At 10:49 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 04:10 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 07:52 AM Wednesday 4/6/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:31:53 -0500, Julia
At 12:04 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
I am not a fertility specialist, nor do I play one on TV, but even I
can think of ways to implant a fertilized egg in a woman's uterus
without her having ever had sexual
At 12:52 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
_There's nothing wrong with
opposing the war_. Knowing what I know now about the
competence of the Administration, I don't think _I_
would have supported the war (not knowing then what I
know
At 01:28 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Why didn't we focus on doing that in Afghanistan first? I think it's
because -- and this is really important -- Iraq was sexier. GWB would be
able to finish what Daddy was unable to see to fruition. That's the
elephant in the room very few
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:45 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:04 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Sigh. Reproduction via union of sperm and egg is sex. It's not
meaningful to speak of an asexual pregnancy, and it's impossible for
artificial insemination techniques to have existed 2K
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:10 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
And the epistles of Paul, while effective at establishing and
maintaining the infant cult of Iasus, read like a lot of hard-right
propaganda, which to me is more or less what they are.
On Apr 8, 2005 3:21 AM, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And we refuse to fund DDT usage why, exactly? The
environmental movement has (and, in fact, continues
to) push for a worldwide ban on DDT usage
because...I'm sure you'll explain it to me, Martin.
The same reason
On Apr 8, 2005 3:23 AM, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I came across this website:
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm
Yes, Steven Milloy is the perfect example of the astroturf hacks who
are paid to smear that I was talking about.
Martin
On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Not really. Virgin conception is impossible, though there's some wiggle
room there -- IIRC the original text had it as behold, a young woman
shall conceive.
Bishop John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism:
When I became
On Apr 7, 2005, at 10:10 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:49 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:59 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
though there's some wiggle room there -- IIRC the original text had it
as behold, a young woman shall conceive.
Which is correct,
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Be careful not to leave out the -.
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At 02:08 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:10 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
And the epistles of Paul, while effective at establishing and
maintaining the infant cult of Iasus, read like a lot of hard-right
At 02:41 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Martin Lewis wrote:
On Apr 8, 2005 3:23 AM, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I came across this website:
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm
Yes, Steven Milloy is the perfect example of the astroturf hacks who
are paid to smear that I was talking
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:28:38 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
...
What you are talking about is a slow
and uncertain process.
Compared to what? The speedy and certain process underway in Iraq???
Nick
___
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:40:04 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
... virtually no one
thought that inspections were working _before_ the
war.
No one? No one? What is your definition of working here? Certainly no one
saw Saddam stepping down immediately and no one thought he was
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At 10:58 PM Thursday 4/7/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Woobs (was: Tits (a womans perspective))
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:13:16 +0900
Be careful not to leave out the -.
The subtleties of the near
On Apr 8, 2005 10:16 AM, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raymond Brown, in the Birth of The Messiah argues that this is a
reasonable scenario. He discusses the theological reasons for including
virgin birth in the infancy narratives...and thinks that they are not very
convincing.
... a strong consensus that nothing short of war would force
Hussain out.
Please remember that as of 17 Feb 2003, when I posted to the Brin
List, the US government did not argue anyone should
... help the people of Iraq free themselves from a cruel
dictatorship.
During a
On Apr 8, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Woobs (was: Tits (a womans perspective))
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:13:16 +0900
Be careful
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On Apr 8, 2005 10:16 AM, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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Well, the argument that the virgin birth is in the infancy
Nick wrote:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:40:04 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
... virtually no one
thought that inspections were working _before_ the
war.
No one? No one? What is your definition of working here? Certainly
no one saw Saddam stepping down immediately and no one thought he was
On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 10:10 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
And hardly remarkable. Young women conceive pretty regularly.
Embedding
such a phrase in a prophecy is a little like predicting rain in
Seattle.
I think your lay scholarship isn't serving
On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:46 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 02:08 AM Friday 4/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
It is interesting that you are much more likely to state things as
absolutes than most people I know who do claim to have the sure word
of God on issues.
Well, when arguing facts, I tend to
On Apr 8, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
Personally, I could be persuaded either way on this question. One
could
indeed argue that someone who's knowledge of Isaiah is from the
Septuagint
and who is aware of the other virgin birth narratives could weave this
into
the tradition relied
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:18:57 -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote
In the Persian Gulf region, the presence of American forces, along
with British and French units, has become a semipermanent fact of
life. Though the immediate mission of those forces is to enforce the
no-fly zones over northern and
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Dan wrote:
My point was (however poorly I made it) that the
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:38:03 -0500, Dan Minette wrote
Look at the
On Apr 8, 2005, at 3:01 PM, Dan Minette, voice of reason, wrote:
The main point that Gautam seems to be arguing is that whether or not
to
go to war in Iraq was a point that reasonable moral people can differ
on. Words like unjustifiable tend to indicate that such a stand is
impossible for a
At 06:17 PM Friday 4/8/2005, Dave Land wrote:
On Apr 8, 2005, at 3:01 PM, Dan Minette, voice of reason, wrote:
The main point that Gautam seems to be arguing is that whether or not to
go to war in Iraq was a point that reasonable moral people can differ
on. Words like unjustifiable tend to
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:03:39 -0500, Dan Minette wrote
OK, let's talk about medical policy then. According to UN figures,
tens if not hundreds of thousands were dying in Iraq due to
conditions under Hussein. The war
Did you leave that for me to finish?
... has increased the death rate
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
I am not a fertility specialist, nor do I play one on TV, but even
I
can think of ways to implant a fertilized egg in a woman's uterus
without her having ever had sexual intercourse and
Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Woobs (was: Tits (a womans perspective))
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:13:16 +0900
Be careful not to leave out the -.
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Woobs (was: Tits (a womans perspective))
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:44:46 -0500
Travis Edmunds wrote:
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:29:22 -0700
On Apr 8, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: G. D.
On Apr 8, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Sigh. Reproduction via union of sperm and egg is sex. It's not
meaningful to speak of an asexual pregnancy, and it's impossible for
artificial insemination techniques to have existed 2K years ago.
Sure, this is readily
On Apr 8, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Dave Land wrote:
I wonder if we couldn't have more effective discussions here if we said
things like I couldn't find a compelling justification the invasion
instead of the invasion was unjustified.
The former asserts one's own observation, not subject to contradiction
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050328/pf/050328-8_pf.html
Black holes are staples of science fiction and many think astronomers
have observed them indirectly. But according to a physicist at the
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, these awesome
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