On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:17:25 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're going to decorate nipples, body-paint is much better.
Makeup-quality airbrush body paint is kick-ass, in fact. And you can
get it in metallic colors, so you could have a metallic star, but it
wouldn't be
At 02:11 AM Wednesday 9/6/2006, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:17:25 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're going to decorate nipples, body-paint is much better.
Makeup-quality airbrush body paint is kick-ass, in fact. And you
can get it in metallic colors,
On Sep 6, 2006, at 12:23 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 02:11 AM Wednesday 9/6/2006, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:17:25 -0500, Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're going to decorate nipples, body-paint is much better.
Makeup-quality airbrush body paint is
At 02:33 AM Wednesday 9/6/2006, Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 6, 2006, at 12:23 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 02:11 AM Wednesday 9/6/2006, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:17:25 -0500, Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're going to decorate nipples, body-paint is much
On 9/3/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 at 0:41, William T Goodall wrote:
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals
If our Milky Way were to collide with an anti-matter galaxy of equal mass,
perhaps one that our astronomers had somehow overlooked, and tomorrow our
whole galaxy were to cease to exist, what difference would it make? Is the
universe benefited in any way from having the Milky Way as part of its
My atheist father used to tell me that might makes right is a bad
philosophy? Why? Unless there is a God who is against it, why would that
philosophy be any better or worse than any other? Upon what do atheists base
their morality? I've never been able to understand this. If selection of
the
On 9/4/06, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/grin.asp
I wonder what the Barsoomians are doing to increase green house gases like
this? For shame!
John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/3/06, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
I do dual-boot windows 2k and linux, but I don't feel that Linux is
ready for most home users, unlike projects like OpenOffice, which
I've recommended for some years... it's a shame that I can't move
On 6 Sep 2006, at 12:58PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
My atheist father used to tell me that might makes right is a bad
philosophy? Why? Unless there is a God who is against it, why
would that
philosophy be any better or worse than any other? Upon what do
atheists base
their morality? I've
On 9/4/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those people either buy from people like me (who pre-install the
software), or they buy a brand..which allready has antivirus and
firewalls loaded. I have not seen a PC sold in the last 4 years
without that software...the ones loaded with
On 6 Sep 2006, at 12:40PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
I agree with Goodall, us religious people are sickening poisonous
evil
filth. That is why we need the Atonement and forgiveness that can
only
come in one way. But I can see things from the atheist perspective
too.
Since all of us are
On 6 Sep 2006, at 1:24PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
What ever happened
to our rights to be secure in our persons and effects as guaranteed
in the
Bill of Rights? And how come none of these free men and women in this
country seem to care?
I blame it on religion myself :-
Opiate of the People
On 9/4/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 3, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No: I'm afraid WTG made a mistake in making that equation, so I won't
throw my lot in with him on that account. They're both valid points,
however:
Macs *do* tend to have a longer productive life
On 9/3/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 20:01, Dave Land wrote:
On the contrary, there may well be better words for it, such as better
informed about the current state of the Macintosh line than you seem to
be. Or, not just shooting his mouth off without being
On 9/4/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think anybody's suggesting that you change careers just so you
can use a Mac, but you could always run Windows via Parallels
(http://www.parallels.com) and enjoy the best of both worlds (on a box
that you did _not_ build yourself, I
JohnR said:
My atheist father used to tell me that might makes right is a bad
philosophy? Why?
Isn't might makes right basically the religious position? I believe
in an all-powerful God. That God says these things are good and those
are evil, therefore I believe these are good and those are
On 6 Sep 2006, at 2:31PM, Richard Baker wrote:
Or: how does God Himself decide what is good and evil? Isn't He, at
least, basically in the same position as us atheists?
I think I have an advantage in not being imaginary.
Real Me Maru
--
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web :
JohnR said:
What we really need is an OS with all of the advantages of XP and
Ubuntu and none of the disadvantages of either. Then maybe we
would have a decent operating system.
That's called OS X. Oh, except for the fact that OS X is much easier
to use (and prettier!) than XP.
And
JohnR said:
Or you could buy a machine with lots of RAM, hard drive and a fast chip.
Then install VMware and a half dozen operating systems and use all of
them at the same time. I wonder if anyone finds doing that to be
useful?
I tried doing that at work but the video performance was
On 6 Sep 2006, at 2:46PM, Richard Baker wrote:
JohnR said:
What we really need is an OS with all of the advantages of XP and
Ubuntu and none of the disadvantages of either. Then maybe we
would have a decent operating system.
That's called OS X. Oh, except for the fact that OS X is much
Richard Baker wrote:
Andrew said:
Plenty which can be done. But someone who is dyslexic will allways
make certain personally consistant spelling errors. That is not
something which can be overcome, as stated.
Does your mail client support the checking of spelling? Mail.app for OS
X
On 9/6/06, John W Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If our Milky Way were to collide with an anti-matter galaxy of equal mass,
perhaps one that our astronomers had somehow overlooked, and tomorrow our
whole galaxy were to cease to exist, what difference would it make? Is the
universe benefited
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Richard Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:32 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: The Morality of Killing Babies
My atheist father used to tell me that might makes right is a bad
DanM said:
I think the most critical question involved is the understanding of the
transcendental: Truths that are true, whether or not they are believed
by humans, or even whether they are perceived by humans; Reality that
exists apart from our perception.
But that seems like an especially
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:17 PM Tuesday 9/5/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 1, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Aug 26, 2006, at 11:54 PM, Dave Land wrote:
Apparently, after screening and re-screening that couple of
milliseconds
of Janet Jackson's
Richard Baker wrote:
If not, then I fail to see how the religious and atheist positions differ.
Or: how does God Himself decide what is good and evil? Isn't He, at
least, basically in the same position as us atheists?
I guess so, unless he himself has a God as I believe.
John W. Redelfs
Richard Baker wrote:
JohnR said:
What we really need is an OS with all of the advantages of XP and
Ubuntu and none of the disadvantages of either. Then maybe we
would have a decent operating system.
That's called OS X. Oh, except for the fact that OS X is much easier
to use (and
Richard Baker wrote:
JohnR said:
Or you could buy a machine with lots of RAM, hard drive and a fast chip.
Then install VMware and a half dozen operating systems and use all of
them at the same time. I wonder if anyone finds doing that to be
useful?
I tried doing that at work but the
On 6 Sep 2006, at 4:13PM, Brother John wrote:
Richard Baker wrote:
If not, then I fail to see how the religious and atheist positions
differ.
Or: how does God Himself decide what is good and evil? Isn't He, at
least, basically in the same position as us atheists?
I guess so, unless he
On 06/09/2006, at 3:51 PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
I wonder if anyone has two machines, a Mac and a PC?
iBook, Athlon 2200XP based PC currently running XP SP2, Claire's
iMac. Had a dual-boot to Fedora Core 3 but I use the PC for media
storage and Civ and Half-Life and I currently don't
William T Goodall wrote:
And does God's God have a God too? And if so does he have a God? And
does God's God's God's God have a God?
GEB flashback
Not necessarily what I needed today, but it's not entirely bad. Might
even be calming, which I *could* use today.
Julia
As Steve said,
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six
years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set
up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established
a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat
technologies, and even casts of
On 6 Sep 2006 at 6:46, Richard Baker wrote:
JohnR said:
What we really need is an OS with all of the advantages of XP and
Ubuntu and none of the disadvantages of either. Then maybe we
would have a decent operating system.
That's called OS X. Oh, except for the fact that OS X is much
On 6 Sep 2006 at 4:38, John W Redelfs wrote:
On 9/4/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those people either buy from people like me (who pre-install the
software), or they buy a brand..which allready has antivirus and
firewalls loaded. I have not seen a PC sold in the last 4
On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:51 AM, John W Redelfs wrote:
I wonder if anyone has two machines, a Mac and a PC? That way you
could use whichever one seems to be doing best whatever you want to
do.
Sure. I do it almost every day: I use an aging Powerbook G4 for 99%
of my work) as well as lugging
Ooh!
New 24 screen iMac with 1920 x 1200 resolution.
Rattles piggybank Maru
--
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/
The three chief virtues of a programmer are: Laziness, Impatience
and Hubris - Larry Wall
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Richard Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:53 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: RE: The Morality of Killing Babies
DanM said:
I think the most critical question involved is the
John W Redelfs wrote:
My atheist father used to tell me that might makes right is a bad
philosophy? Why? Unless there is a God who is against it, why
would that philosophy be any better or worse than any other? Upon
what do atheists base their morality? I've never been able to
John W Redelfs wrote:
If our Milky Way were to collide with an anti-matter galaxy of equal
mass, perhaps one that our astronomers had somehow overlooked, and
tomorrow our whole galaxy were to cease to exist, what difference
would it make?
To the Big U? Nothing.
Is the universe benefited
On 6 Sep 2006, at 8:18PM, Dan Minette wrote:
Actually, it is possible, with a simple assumption, to do more than
that.
Again, I fully admit that there is no proof, but I think that...if the
transcendental is partially and imperfectly discerned by humans,
then one
can reach some general
On 6 Sep 2006, at 8:33PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
But it requires too much thinking to conclude that - and atheists
are no smarter than fundamentalist theists, and will be satisfied
with short-range egoistical goals. Short-term egoistical goals
for theists mean do good or God will punish you.
-- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Then, last Saturday, my
Dad died at the age of 90...and I just got back from
the funeral...and helping my mom.
I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Even when we expect
our loved ones to die soon, of whatever, it's hard
when they go.
Debbi
Anticipating
On 6 Sep 2006 at 6:31, Richard Baker wrote:
Isn't might makes right basically the religious position? I believe
Nope. At least, not for Jews.
in an all-powerful God. That God says these things are good and those are
evil, therefore I believe these are good and those are evil. (And
Again,
On 6 Sep 2006 at 14:43, William T Goodall wrote:
On 6 Sep 2006, at 2:31PM, Richard Baker wrote:
Or: how does God Himself decide what is good and evil? Isn't He, at
least, basically in the same position as us atheists?
I think I have an advantage in not being imaginary.
Uh-huh. So
Andrew said:
Again, Jews believe there are universal standards for good and for
righteousness (and that the most certainly don't need to be a Jew to
be righteous) - and further, the Bible states that the Law of the
Land is the Law.
So is that an argument from the authority of the Bible, an
Dan said:
Actually, it is possible, with a simple assumption, to do more than
that.
Again, I fully admit that there is no proof, but I think that...if the
transcendental is partially and imperfectly discerned by humans,
then one
can reach some general conclusions about our best bets at
William said:
I got Singh's _Mac OS X Internals_ the other week. 1641 pages of
hard-bound fun to dip into!
That one's on my list of books I'd like to read in the near future.
At the moment, I'm reading Scott's _Programming Language Pragmatics_,
Hennessy and Patterson's _Computer
On 06/09/2006, at 10:33 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Short-term egoistical goals
for theists mean do good or God will punish you. Short-term
egoistical goals for atheists lead to mass murder.
Hope that's satire.
Charlie
___
From: John W Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My atheist father used to tell me that might makes right is a bad
philosophy? Why? Unless there is a God who is against it, why would that
philosophy be any better or worse than any other? Upon what do atheists
base
their morality? I've never been
On 6 Sep 2006 at 22:10, Richard Baker wrote:
Andrew said:
Again, Jews believe there are universal standards for good and for
righteousness (and that the most certainly don't need to be a Jew to
be righteous) - and further, the Bible states that the Law of the
Land is the Law.
So is
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6 Sep 2006 at 14:43, William T Goodall wrote:
On 6 Sep 2006, at 2:31PM, Richard Baker wrote:
Or: how does God Himself decide what is good and evil? Isn't He, at
least, basically in the same position as us atheists?
I think I
On 06/09/2006, at 11:31 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No. You're commiting the basic theological falicy (again, in Jewish
terms) of thinking of G-d as a Human. To eff the ineffible. Which is
understandable (especially since Christians HAVE adopted a Human
aspect to their G-d) but from our POV
John W Redelfs wrote:
And tomorrow, Google will be forced to turn over all our
search history to George Bush just so he can make sure he approves of where
we visit on the web.
If you think Bush is an Evil Dictator, you should know
that here in Brazil the Justice is trying to _close_
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger rceeberger@
wrote:
No, it won't - it would be _wrong_ to call it a planet! It should
be called by something else, to stress the fact that it does
not orbit
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the connection of Katrina to global warming, I think that
advocates of doing something about global warming do themselves no
favors by making such arguments. After all, these arguments
connecting
specific weather
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for keeping this alive John. I have been exceptionally busy for
the last few weeks, but I have read beyond the next chapter. Is anyone
up
for kicking off the discussion on Chapter 3? If not, I'll have
something
by
Ronn! wrote:
Dave wrote:
I think he means the nipple-like protrusion on the top of the
rock.
Yeah, I saw that, but, like you, I was looking for something else . . .
I was struggling because I thought that the photo was
entitled Kids and Grandkids, so I was looking for them in the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals and society.
However a number of
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This type of change, while certainly having negative consequences, is
not a
catastrophe. I'd argue that the potential for disaster from an
asteroid hit
is far higher than from global warming.
And the recent discovery of the
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:25:36 -, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I guess that I don't understand why it is invalid to also assume that
warming will increase ocean temperatures, and so increase the number of
storms.
I'm just referencing what I've read, John, Here's an article
JDG wrote:
I'm not sure that enough is known about Easter Island culture to
directly connect the moai to religion. I'm not sure that Diamond ever
conclusively demonstrates it in his Chapter (although it has been a
while since I read it now.) It certainly seems possible that the
building of
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