Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-07 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is it moral, just and a good idea to treat someone differently because of their sexual orientation? Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic, but everyone in New Jersey was and is free to marry, regardless of their sexual

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 6 Nov 2006 at 23:48, John D. Giorgis wrote: An oddly on-topic article.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm And as ever it COMPLETELY misses the point. Yes, public areas are covered with cameras. Private areas are not. There is the Human rights act, and a right to privacy.

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/11/2006, at 11:18 PM, jdiebremse wrote: They're not free to marry someone of the same orientation, so they're being treated differently. But that's only for a definition of marriage as a partnership between any two people, that's not true for a definition of marriage as a partnership

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/11/2006, at 11:46 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 6 Nov 2006 at 23:48, John D. Giorgis wrote: An oddly on-topic article.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm And as ever it COMPLETELY misses the point. Yes, public areas are covered with cameras. Private areas are not.

RE: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-07 Thread Ritu
Dan Minette wrote: I think we've reached a point where we cannot stop a civil war from happening. We can, as long as we stay, stretch out the first phases of that war, but I think the most likely outcome of staying the course will be to increase the potential suffering, instead of

Nitpick Re: Judicial Activism

2006-11-07 Thread Julia Thompson
jdiebremse wrote: There is certainly a bit of a judgment call when dealing with bad precedent as to how best to overturn it. For instance, the same people who love stare decisis when it comes to Roe v. Wade, wouldn't dream of deferring to precedent in Pessy v. Ferguson or in Korematsu...

Re: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: All you 'merican citizens out there in Brin-L land, please vote tomorrow. Can't. Voted Friday. :) One of my friends voted Thursday because she's working the election, at a precinct rather far from her house, and wouldn't be able to vote at her precinct today. That's a

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Andrew Crystall wrote: And as ever it COMPLETELY misses the point. Yes, public areas are covered with cameras. Private areas are not. There is the Human rights act, and a right to privacy. I was in London last week. British newspapers were classifying home surveillance as equivalent to

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 7 Nov 2006 at 13:27, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: And as ever it COMPLETELY misses the point. Yes, public areas are covered with cameras. Private areas are not. There is the Human rights act, and a right to privacy. I was in London last week. British

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Andrew Crystall wrote: I was in London last week. British newspapers were classifying home surveillance as equivalent to that of Russia and China. Which is absolute and total rubbish. What is rubbish? My report is as acurate as an eyewitness can be :-P As He wrote, the best quality of

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: I was in London last week. British newspapers were classifying home surveillance as equivalent to that of Russia and China. Which is absolute and total rubbish. What is rubbish? My report is as acurate as an eyewitness can be :-P As He wrote,

Re: Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: I know what He says. I also know what He says about 1984. But I am discussing the scare of 1984, not the 1984-zation of Airstrip One. I'm lost, Alberto. Words of 7 syllables or less and/or linky goodness to help me out here? Ok. He with a capital _H_ means His

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2006, at 5:56 PM, pencimen wrote: Charlie wrote: Still got a long way to go, especially in countries where they're specifically enacting legislation to forbid gay marriage. Round and round we go. I agree, but younger people have more

Breaking News: Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats

2006-11-07 Thread Gary Nunn
I love The Onion :-) Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats WASHINGTON, DC-Republican officials are blaming tonight's GOP losses on Democrats, who they claim have engaged in a wide variety of aggressive, premeditated, anti-Republican campaigns over the past six-to-18 months. We have