On 31/08/2008, at 2:54 PM, Olin Elliott wrote:
On 30/08/2008 Charlie Bell wrote:
...there are some people that believe human life
starts at birth. There are a few (a very few) that believe it starts
when humans attain sapience (Peter Singer is one). There are many
that
think it starts at
Alberto said:
So you believe that the logic of capitalism should be used to decide
on who lives or who dies? For example, think how many children's lives
in Africa could be saved if we took all those infected with HIV,
gassed
them, burned their bodies (in an anthropothermic power plant -
On 31 Aug 2008, at 03:45, Charlie Bell wrote:
If you're trolling back at Will, please stop it. One like him on this
list is enough.
Who's a naughty boy then?
Ad Hominem Maru
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At 06:17 PM Friday 8/29/2008, Doug Pensinger wrote:
Ronn! wrote:
Being there.
A faulty memory is a poor cite.
That is an obvious statement with which anyone would have to agree. ;)
Not only wasn't inflation anywhere near
20% during the Carter administration,
Somebody has
At 11:54 PM Saturday 8/30/2008, Olin Elliott wrote:
When pro-life advocates start defending all life I'll take them seriously.
Olin
So you're a strict vegan?
No Wisecracks About 26 Light Years Maru
. . . ronn! :)
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At 07:30 PM Saturday 8/30/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
On 30 Aug 2008, at 23:53, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Just think of how many children's' lives in Africa could be saved
with the
resources used to support the world's first surviving set of
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The problem with teaching creationism in a
So you're a strict vegan?
No Wisecracks About 26 Light Years Maru
I'm a vegetarian, became one some years ago when I just ran out of excuses.
Because I like it didn't' seem like enough reason to keep supporting the
industry that produces our meat in this age. I'm working toward veganism,
On 31 Aug 2008, at 15:29, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being
interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of
humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a
breath of fresh air.
Everybody knows the proper
McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being
interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of
humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a
breath of fresh air.
So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke?
Olin
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At 10:13 AM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
Running gag Maru
I hope someone finally caught him and gave him the Heimlich maneuver.
. . . ronn! :)
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On 31 Aug 2008, at 16:14, Olin Elliott wrote:
McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being
interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of
humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a
breath of fresh air.
So does that mean he intends
Having brought up science earlier, it seems reasonable to choose this time
to address a prevalent understanding: that the questions of ethics, human
interaction, etc. are all definable and resolvable in a scientific manner.
Indeed if we look at harmful ideologies developed over the past 150 or so
Dan M wrote:
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The problem with teaching
On 31 Aug 2008, at 18:04, Dan M wrote:
Having brought up science earlier, it seems reasonable to choose
this time
to address a prevalent understanding: that the questions of ethics,
human
interaction, etc. are all definable and resolvable in a scientific
manner.
Indeed if we look at
On 31 Aug 2008, at 19:13, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
Dan M wrote:
I wouldn't put it that way, because there are a wealth of possible
future
tests. And theories that have been falsified are still taught in
science
class...in fact most physics that is being taught has been
On 31 Aug 2008, at 16:10, Olin Elliott wrote:
So you're a strict vegan?
No Wisecracks About 26 Light Years Maru
I'm a vegetarian, became one some years ago when I just ran out of
excuses. Because I like it didn't' seem like enough reason to
keep supporting the industry that produces
William T Goodall wrote:
...
So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke?
The latest rumours about her are pretty funny %-}
http://www.spartacuslives.org/node/20463
William--
That is interesting. One never knows, but those
are a lot of pictures of her not showing as pregnant.
So
I've been looking into getting a RAID backup system for my home (my
current mixture of Firewire drives is cumbersome and not all backed
up) and the Drobo looks quite attractive. I had thought of going NAS
too, but cheap NAS RAID (Thecus, Acer Altos, Freecom, Synology) all
seem to have
(Sorry about the titles. I just replied about
Sarah Palin in the Honest Terminology thread,
and in the Sarah Palin thread, I'm talking about
honest terminology.)
William T Goodall wrote:
On 30 Aug 2008, at 04:54, David Hobby wrote:
...
William--
I truly admire the subtlety with which you
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:18, David Hobby wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
...
So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke?
The latest rumours about her are pretty funny %-}
http://www.spartacuslives.org/node/20463
William--
That is interesting. One never knows, but those
are a lot
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:32, David Hobby wrote:
No, it's the honest terminology. Abortion kills children,
very young children who can't survive outside the womb, and
who wouldn't count as human at all except for their human DNA.
Now this happens to be the same term adopted by some religious
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:32, David Hobby wrote:
(Sorry about the titles. I just replied about
Sarah Palin in the Honest Terminology thread,
and in the Sarah Palin thread, I'm talking about
honest terminology.)
William T Goodall wrote:
On 30 Aug 2008, at 04:54, David Hobby wrote:
...
William T Goodall wrote:
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:18, David Hobby wrote:
...
Seriously, if true, the rumor immediately disqualifies
her. Not for lying, not for hypocrisy, but for being
dumb enough to think she could get away with it.
If it's not true it's amusing payback for the Republican
William T Goodall wrote:
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:32, David Hobby wrote:
...
William--
No, it's the honest terminology. Abortion kills children,
very young children who can't survive outside the womb, and
who wouldn't count as human at all except for their human DNA.
No it doesn't. Children
On 1 Sep 2008, at 02:32, David Hobby wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:32, David Hobby wrote:
...
If you start counting zygotes as children then IUDs and morning after
pills are infanticide. That's just wackjob wingnut daft.
Well, they are preventing things from
At 08:16 PM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:32, David Hobby wrote:
No, it's the honest terminology. Abortion kills children,
very young children who can't survive outside the womb, and
who wouldn't count as human at all except for their human DNA.
Now
At 01:40 PM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
On 31 Aug 2008, at 19:13, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
Dan M wrote:
I wouldn't put it that way, because there are a wealth of possible
future
tests. And theories that have been falsified are still taught in
science
class...in fact
At 01:40 PM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
I was taught that 22/7 was a handy approximation for pi but I wasn't
taught that it was pi.
Just like those things sold at McDonald's and similar fast food
places may be handy but are at best approximations of pie.
Caution: Filling
William T Goodall wrote:
On 31 Aug 2008, at 19:13, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
In a class that is about how science develops, that could well make
sense. I taught a class some years ago on History of Science, and that
is something I tried to bring into it. But I would (and did) insist
that
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On 31 Aug 2008, at 18:04, Dan M wrote:
Having brought up
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