profiteering and not in terms of isolating ourselves from the
problems of the rest of the world. He would, for instance, be very much
against spending billions of dollars on an ineffective missile defense
system.
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Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows
at the
moment, is there another site that has the video avalilable?
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.
Ahem. As were Democrats.
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IMO, of course
of the majority of
Christians in this country.
Where did he say that it was an official viewpoint of Christianity?
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:05:09 -0400, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 04:20 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.
Ahem
Erik wrote:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 07:01:59PM -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote:
It would be simple to have a player database with each player's exact
dimensions.
It would be simple, IF everyone agreed on the player's dimensions. As
I said, the problem is NOT technology, it is agreement on the strike
Alberto wrote:
Doug Pensinger wrote:
How many watched tonight?
I did! But it didn't change my vote, because the alternatives
to Cesar Maia are even worse than him.
Alberto Monteiro wtf is he talking about?
What, you don't like Crivella¹?
Sorry, Alberto, I shouldn't assume that our international
How many watched tonight? You all know I'm slightly biased, but I think W
got trounced and Kerry rescued his campaign.
Thank goodness, I think we've still got a fighting chance.
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:15:16 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many watched tonight? You all know I'm slightly
biased, but I think W
got trounced and Kerry rescued his campaign.
Thank goodness, I think we've still got a fighting
don't think you should get rid of the home plate ump as he's doing a
good deal more than calling balls and strikes. The system should give him
an immediate audio or visual cue.
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the insurgency in
Iraq was getting worse'' as forces opposed to the United States and the
new Iraqi leadership remained determined to disrupt the election'' set
for January.
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sure you lay off the right one! :-)
A-fu**ing-men to that.
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Its not horrible now, but the signs for the future are not good. The tax
cut, which is focused on the upper income tax payer, should exasperate
the problem.
exacerbate
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Robert wrote:
Anyone have any idea why Cat Stevens is verboten?
Don't know, but I'm on the road to find out.
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) of
South Carolina on CNN, while saying they still supported the president,
took the administration to task for allowing insurgents to gain the upper
hand, and said that many more troops were needed in Iraq if elections in
January were to be held successfully in January.
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watching my daughters pup this WE while they're at a wedding at Tahoe. My
son took her out to play and she took off on him - towards a busy street.
He followed her and corralled her a few blocks away, but it was a scary
moment.
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Gautam wrote:
Hehe. I expressed a desire (to my _Mom_) to at least
once in my life be described as an evil genius a
couple of weeks ago.
Evil, maybe.
Genius, no way.
G
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and acting upon their advice.
Why can't we find better people to run the country?
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of
stores, none of which have benefits.
And isn't Texas one of the worst states in terms of workers that don't
have health care?
Check out this article and tell me what you think.
[http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html]
or http://tinyurl.com/v1sz
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the worst coverage in the country by a substantial margin(~24%
uninsured), but Ca. is pretty bad too (~18%). The National average is ~15%
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is not if it will happen, but if it
will happen in time to save the country from these elitists. I'm
convinced that even now they will stop at nothing to retain power - that
if they can't win the coming election fairly they will do whatever it
takes to rig it.
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with their trillion dollars worth of U.S. investments
and their oil are our friends and can do no wrong.
Maybe if they nuked NYC _and_ DC?
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find out about what the
administration knew before the invasion the more obvious this becomes.
But then again, you probably still think that the Supreme Court changed
the outcome of the last election.
No, I think Jeb and his cronies were primarily responsible.
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Travis wrote:
laughing Reminds me of Jeffrey Miller - former list member - and his
little quote of - I love being inconsequential, it takes all the
responsibility off me.
Ahem. He's actually still here and carrying his share.
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Bryon wrote:
I was just thinking about Chad also... Are you still around, Chad?
How are you doing?
Ronn is the one I was wondering about - did he go on a long vacation?
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:09:32 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:45 AM 9/11/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
Maybe if they nuked NYC _and_ DC?
That's a low blow. :-(
Sorry. I see what you mean, but that's not how I meant it. Those are
just the two most likely targets, IMO.
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JDG wrote:
Still, she was at least nominall a Democrat - which hardly supports the
theory of a Republican conspiracy to, quote, cheat.
Sounds like the ultimate cheat to me; switch parties in order to influence
the election from the inside.
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JDG wrote:
At 01:19 PM 9/11/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
Still, she was at least nominall a Democrat - which hardly supports the
theory of a Republican conspiracy to, quote, cheat.
Sounds like the ultimate cheat to me; switch parties in order to
influence
the election from the inside.
Its
JDG wrote:
Doug, you've now changed the subject. None of your links has anything
to do with a conspiracy involving the Palm Beach County Board of
elections.
Heck, Dionne's column didn't even alledge fraud of any sort!
The common theme you apparently missed was that the Republican party has
Robert wrote:
If W were not president, Jeb would likely be in jail now.
And if Jeb had not been Governor, Shrub would likely be back to putting
companies out of business by now.
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JDG wrote:
As opposed to the Sainted Democrats, of course, who have no history of
illegal election activity.
The Democrats may have competed, but the GOP's won all the medals.
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Democrats may have competed, but the GOP's won
all the medals.
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Doug, that's absurd. Speaking purely as an historical
point, that's a ludicrous statement
JDG wrote:
At 06:55 PM 9/6/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
That presumes a cover-up.
It doesn't presume a cover up. It presumes what Grahm says is true. If
it's true then there _is_ a cover up. So prove him wrong.
Uh yeah that's what I said. If, however, what Graham is saying
and comfort to the enemy, IMO.
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this is aid and comfort to the enemy, pure and simple.
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. If the administration is
actively protecting a government that helped finance the 9/11 attacks they
should be the subject of a criminal investigation. Indeed, it gives one
pause. If they are protecting the people that committed that atrocity,
their own innocence is suspect.
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on this list
are going to say and do? Couldnt I design an experiment to test the
hypothesis that the people on this list are not predictable 100% of the
time?
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JDG wrote:
This is aid and comfort to the enemy, IMO.
Not that you would *ever* question the patriotism of _your_ political
opponents.
JDG - Uh huh, Maru
OK, John, justify the cover up. Please.
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JDG wrote:
That presumes a cover-up.
It doesn't presume a cover up. It presumes what Grahm says is true. If
it's true then there _is_ a cover up. So prove him wrong.
All I am pointing out, Doug, is that you have been the *most sensitive*
and the *loudest* person on this List to any perceived
that he is protecting his Saudi friends.
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Committee under President Nixon.
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differences on the list, but I kind of
doubt he has any need to feel important here or anywhere else.
You also wrote:
By the way, Doug, do you consider yourself more inept than Bush? I think
he holds a security clearance, and I seem to remember him commenting on
some issues from time to time...
I'm
cloning was synonymous
with human cloning, which he said he and Kerry oppose. Edwards promised an
increase in funding for embryonic stem cell research to at least four
times the $25 million spent by the federal government in fiscal 2003.
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ludicrous
to me especially in view of the fact that their country was at war
assumedly with the rights restrictions that are normally present in such
cases.
I'm not taking sides, BTW, but I'd be interested in further reading on
this if anyone has a reference.
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clearance you aren't supposed to even discuss
stuff that is common knowledge because by doing so you may verify or
discount information that may or may not be correct. I'm not sure it the
same in the private sector, but I'm sure the principal holds
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Warren wrote:
That is, I don't think you can have an I in a vacuum.
In fact, I think your I's pop right out in a vacuum...
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headed for the hills
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David Hobby wrote:
The Fool wrote:
ghostpost snipped
Let's NOT have a flamewar with the TITLES of our posts?
Seconded.
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force was a coallition. And can you
expand on how the rest of the world is activly opposing efforts to help
the Iraqis?
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on but the point is; what would you
expect? Of course they are harder on the people that have shown callous
disregard for their cause in the past.
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to extend that strategy into the future.
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seem to only find the most dire NPS budget shortfalls under
Republican Presidents.
Your reply reminds me of the incredible conservative myopia when it comes
to evaluating the Bush presidency.
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William wrote:
Not a Catholic today then?
Even here in the U.S., four out of five Catholics belive that it's OK to
use birth control.
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areas...
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- C
Minority HIV/AIDS InitiativeD - D -
Prevention D F
ResearchB + D
Global C - C
Executive Office of the Pres. N/A D +
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for what I don't
understand. As a cognizant, intelligent being I can choose my own
purpose(s). One of the purposes I believe we have collectively chosen is
to explain the universe that we live in.
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if that computation
was nearly instantaneous.
So, IMO, while we might not have _pure_ free will, what we do have is
virtually indistinguishable from it.
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there is an omnipotent being
that could control all the factors composing that choice. If such a being
exists, there can be no real free will.
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Is there a usefull definition and if so could you share it with us?
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to fabricate
an explanation for them. In fact I consider it one of the factors that
give our existence purpose.
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to fabricate reasons for justifying it. Etcetera, etcetera.
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Dan wrote:
I cannot point to the gene for free will any more than I can point to the
gene for reflective self-awareness. :-)
But isn't the evidence for reflective self-awareness in humans much more
compelling than the evidence against free will in pumas?
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a
better chance of survival and would increase his power within the
community. Thus, imposing ethics upon a community becomes not only a
means to create order, but also a means for intellectuals to thrive.
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, wouldn't this reduce the genetic
diversity of a population and thus result in an evolutionary disadvantage?
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JDG wrote:
Doug, I think there is a huge difference between the religious attitudes
of Brin-L members vs. Brin-L posts. Quite simply, this List is
consistently bombarded with a plethora of anti-religious,
anti-Christian, and yes,
anti-Catholic posts. For whatever reason, very few people
, not just brin-l. Declaring that you are
an atheist/agnostic even here in the liberal bay area can have RL
consequences. Which is worse; the mostly harmless bigoted nonsense here
on the list, or the kind of silent bigotry that can cost you a job,
promotion, political office etc?
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thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we.
A misstatement, you say? I beg to differ
8^)
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it probably feels as if the wheels are
coming off to those that aren't used to having their faith challenged. 8^)
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with Basic and a
full set of manuals.
I didn't have a clue about programming and when I got to a place in the
manual where it told me x=x+1 I was completely befuddled - trying to
understand the algebra.
D'oh...
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http://tinyurl.com/6x7qy
In another poll taken on August 11, 1993, 82 percent of Catholics said
one can use artificial birth control and still be a good Catholic.
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following the embassy bombings?
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town I visited in Alaska; Sitka, Juneau and
Haines.
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think.'
Posted at 08:11 PM
You're getting desperate John. Kerry proved long ago that he knows how to
react in a crisis; his service record speaks for itself.
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are the driver of a car
involved in an accident vs if you are a passenger. The passenger has the
luxury of not thinking while the driver does not.
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connection in one of our hotels in Southeast Alaska.
Hoping for sunshine
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yourself to long-term, meaningful measures.
Lincoln imposed a number of restrictions on rights during the Civil War
including the suspension of Habius Corpus. Considering the situation, do
you think they were justified?
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Ronn! wrote:
Was your father a lot older at that age, or was it only mine?
Way, way, way older. Ancient.
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Ronn! wrote:
What is really bad is that _Star Trek_ is considered an *old* television
show . . .
So What Does That Make Its Viewers? Maru
Turning fifty in about 32 days?
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The Final Frontier Maru
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:46:05 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A pretty selective sampling there, Doug.
It's enough to show that the constitution provided a wall of separation
in the minds at least some of the more prominent founders.
It also neglects the fact, that your reading
throughout the Southwest.
If it _does_ have considerable historical significance, I would agree with
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Doug Wrote:
Turning fifty in about 32 days?
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George A
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of a God
or supreme being but denies revealed religion, basing his belief on the
light of nature and reason. In other words, the mention of a Creator in
the DoI has no religious significance in the eyes of a Deist
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, Eliasberg said. It's a preeminent symbol
of a religion. If we want to have a war memorial on federal land, the
government certainly knows how to do that without using a divisive
sectarian religious symbol.
In case you missed it, the government is referenced twice, the VFW not at
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religious association, assurances of my high respect esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.
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by themselves nor b y an authority
derived from them, and are slaves.
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. Government property it isn't the VFW's speech that
is in question. Because it is on U.S. government property is the U.S.
Government's speech. The VFW doesn't figure at all in the decision, their
involvement is completely, totally irrelevant.
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Repeat after me: Separation of Church
separation of church and state and are aghast at the idea that the
government shouldn't be able to endorse religion. It might be easier to
live with the pledge and other minor violations than it would be to live
with the backlash caused by banning them.
For the time being anyway.
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JDG wrote:
At 09:36 PM 6/15/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
Because it is on U.S. Government property it isn't the VFW's speech that
is in question. Because it is on U.S. government property is the U.S.
Government's speech. The VFW doesn't figure at all in the decision,
their
involvement
than they
have
received for memorializing our First World War dead.
Once again, you completely miss the point. They can memorialize all they
want providing that they don't use religious symbols to do so.
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the reaction be as severe as if he had a
truckload of dynamite?
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at the terror caused by the D.C. snipers. What if they had been
really smart; stopped after killing several victims then moved on to a
different city? It may have been years before they were caught.
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:59:14 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:46 PM 6/14/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
They definitely whimped out. What this means to me is that they were
afraid to rule because of the impact their ruling would have, so they
found a way to weasel out of making any
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:52 -0400, David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Doug Pensinger wrote:
David Hobby wrote:
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Oh, that twist! As I recall, that was 100 pages from the end.
(Yes, a fair-sized book.) I thought you meant the ironic
big pile of historical documents
the preeminent reason, was to protect people that might otherwise
be excluded by the majority. That's what separation of church and state
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it that far.
Anyone care to tell me what they thought was good about it?
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I finished this one a month or so ago and while some of it was interesting
I thought the endless train of riddle solving got tiresome and that the
twist near the end was poorly done. Has anyone else here read it?
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of a sudden the previously evil Cardinal
and his albino henchman were the Teacher's poor, misused victims.
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