Health care is civil law, not guns involved (Re: WeChooseTheMoon)

2009-07-30 Thread Nick Arnett
ain states, the provider would be breaking the law. If the > provider refused to cease selling policies without acupuncture, they > would eventually send the police to arrest them, with guns if the > person attempted to defend themselves. This is so much baloney that Oscar Meyer would be j

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19 are shot dead every year. Under 19? Wouldn't that include a few who are playing Survivor: Iraq? Pat __

RE: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:16 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Guns > Maybe the guns only work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Guns >

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Dave Land
: 16 Unknown Intent by Firearms 5 Total by firearms198 Using this definition of child, just less than 4 children a week are killed by guns. The chance of an individual child being killed is slightly less than 4 in a million per year. Many of whom, frankly, deserved it

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Dave Land
On Mar 22, 2006, at 2:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 22 Mar 2006, at 10:11PM, Dave Land wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 5:41 AM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1736424,00.html?gusrc=rss "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According

RE: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dave Land > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:11 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Guns > > On Mar 22, 2006, at 5:41 AM, William T Goodall wrote: > > >

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread William T Goodall
On 22 Mar 2006, at 10:11PM, Dave Land wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 5:41 AM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1736424,00.html?gusrc=rss "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 1

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Dave Land
On Mar 22, 2006, at 5:41 AM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1736424,00.html?gusrc=rss "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19 are shot dead every year. No time to wade

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Alberto Monteiro
> > No time to wade into this in any depth, but 1 child every 3 hours = > 8 * 365 = 2920, not "nearly 1,000" -- Unless the first sentence > uses some other definition of "child" or "killed" or "gun" than the > second sentence. > Maybe

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Damon Agretto wrote: > > I wonder how this compares to other accidental deaths of teens under > 19 by other means. 900+ deaths from firearms looks daunting when > viewed on its own... > 900+ per year in a population of 300 million / n [whatever the n, it can't be 100 or more]? It doesn't sound

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread dcaa
lliam T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:41:44 To:Brin-L Subject: Guns http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1736424,00.html?gusrc=rss "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19

Re: Guns

2006-03-22 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1736424,00.html?gusrc=rss "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19 are shot dead every year. Another 800 use guns to commit suicide

Guns

2006-03-22 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1736424,00.html?gusrc=rss "A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19 are shot dead every year. Another 800 use guns to commit suicide, and more than 160 d

RE: platforms in canada (was :Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us)

2006-01-01 Thread Nick Lidster
>Sounds like the conservatives have the more practical solution in this case. I doubt it seems that way to those who believe that all guns are e—ee—eee—vil . . . --Ronn! :) "Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the p

Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2006-01-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
. Sounds like the conservatives have the more practical solution in this case. I doubt it seems that way to those who believe that all guns are e—ee—eee—vil . . . --Ronn! :) "Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pled

Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2006-01-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick Lidster wrote: Currently there are really 2 camps that are slugging it out on this issue, the liberals who want more laws and to create a new gun task force within the RCMP who are in a huge manpower shortage. Then there is the Conservatives who are taking a stance on increasing funding to

RE: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread Nick Lidster
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: December 31, 2005 3:28 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us On 31 Dec 2005, at 3:24 pm, Gary Nunn wrote: > > I apologize in a

Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
difference guns make it isn't enough for either side to have proved it after years of argument. Given that we have strict controls over the sale of alcohol, tobacco, fireworks and other possibly harmful materials it seems entirely sensible and in line with other regulation to control

Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm a realist when it comes to firearms in this country; we'd sooner ban pizza than guns. But that doesn't negate the fact that they're a serious problem. I'd sooner ban guns than pizza. Not sure how my next-door neighbor who owns a pizza jo

Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread Doug Pensinger
te. If the difference in violent crime or murder rates or whatever was really obviously significantly different between gun-control/non-gun- control areas then one side or the other of the debate would be trumpeting that fact loudly. So whatever difference guns make it isn't enough for

Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread William T Goodall
e fair and accurate. If the difference in violent crime or murder rates or whatever was really obviously significantly different between gun-control/non-gun- control areas then one side or the other of the debate would be trumpeting that fact loudly. So whatever difference guns make it isn&#x

Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread Gary Nunn
the bottom) Myths, Lies and Straight Talk A List of 10 Media-Fed Myths MYTH # 5 - Guns Are Always Bad for Us America is notorious for its culture of gun violence. Guns sometimes do cause terrible harm, and many kids are killed every year in gun accidents. But public service announcements and ne

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:44 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 20, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Crap on it Physics kills people! Blame Dan! xponent Finger Pointing Fads Maru rob Hey … now is not the time for finger-pointing! Besides, you don't know if that finger mig

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 20, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Crap on it Physics kills people! Blame Dan! xponent Finger Pointing Fads Maru rob Hey … now is not the time for finger-pointing! That's one of the blue cards from the other thread. :) Julia g

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 20, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Crap on it Physics kills people! Blame Dan! xponent Finger Pointing Fads Maru rob Hey … now is not the time for finger-pointing! -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books Current work

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:50 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: > Mauro Diotallevi wrote: >> On 9/3/05, Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> ok I have to say it >>> >>> >>> "Guns don&#

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
Julia Thompson wrote: > Mauro Diotallevi wrote: >> On 9/3/05, Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> ok I have to say it >>> >>> >>> "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." >>> >>>

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 9/20/05, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > > On 9/3/05, Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >>ok I have to say it > >> > >> > >>"Guns don't kill people, pe

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > >> "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." > > Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. Allow people all the guns > they want, but make bullets illegal. > Bullets don't kill people, God kills people. The bullets on

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 9/3/05, Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ok I have to say it "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." Nick "high noon" Lidster Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. Allow people all the guns they want,

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-20 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 9/3/05, Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ok I have to say it > > > "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." > > > Nick "high noon" Lidster Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. Allow people all

Re: Guns kill people

2005-09-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall quoted: > > "For the first time in 13 years Brazil has seen a fall in the number > of deaths caused by firearms. > Last year 36,000 people were killed by guns - a drop of 8% from 2003, > according to the health ministry. > > The government says the c

RE: Guns kill people

2005-09-03 Thread Nick Lidster
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: September 3, 2005 5:19 AM To: Brin-L Subject: Guns kill people http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210558.stm "For the first time in 13 years Brazil has seen a fall i

Guns kill people

2005-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210558.stm "For the first time in 13 years Brazil has seen a fall in the number of deaths caused by firearms. Last year 36,000 people were killed by guns - a drop of 8% from 2003, according to the health ministry. The government says the chan

The Guns Of Io

2004-09-15 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/14sep_jupiterdust.htm?list1119125 September 14, 2004: Jupiter's moon Io is peppered with volcanoes, the hottest, most active volcanoes in our solar system. Sizzling vents spew plumes of gas and dust as much as 400 km high. They surge, spit, subside and surg

Re: first they come for your guns...

2004-03-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > Particular interest for Julia? Maybe she doesn't carry hers that much. (Not > the story I first say that talked about a complete ban on carrying to take > effect in July) > > http://abc.net.au/news/australia/vic/200403/s1055935.htm > > Brawl prompts police crackdown on weap

first they come for your guns...

2004-03-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
Particular interest for Julia? Maybe she doesn't carry hers that much. (Not the story I first say that talked about a complete ban on carrying to take effect in July) http://abc.net.au/news/australia/vic/200403/s1055935.htm Brawl prompts police crackdown on weapons Victorian Police Minister An

Guns in the Home

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
http://www.jhsph.edu/gunpolicy/Guns_in_Home.pdf Many people who own guns keep them primarily for hunting or recreation; many keep them for self defense. This is particularly the case among handgun owners.3 Although many gun owners keep a gun in the home for protection, studies have shown that

Re: Guns in the Home

2003-08-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.jhsph.edu/gunpolicy/Guns_in_Home.pdf > > Many people who own guns keep them primarily for hunting or > recreation; many keep them for self defense. This is particularly > the case among handgun owners.3 Although m

Re: Guns and knives [was re: Br!n prediction accuracy]

2003-06-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately the equalizer also raises the stakes. > Idiots with guns are much > worse than idiots with knives. But they aren't > really any worse than an idiot > --who is physically larger and more powerful-- with

Re: Guns was:

2003-06-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
od chatter, if there are break-ins nearby. There were two shootings a few blocks from here, one by a police and another by an estranged husband. But I don't keep any guns loaded. Just seems safer. I don't have a gun safe, because I have no place to put one at the moment. But all my rif

Guns was: RE: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-02 Thread Jan Coffey
I'm sitting on this one I guess, but up and on another list so... --- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- [Snip] > > Back to reality, what do you do? Don't think it can't happen to you, it's > > happened to me twice. > > I'd hate to be the firefighter who come

Re: SCOUTED: This is what happens when governments try to ban guns

2003-05-30 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 29 May 2003 at 15:03, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > <<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/01/0 > 5/do0502.xml>> > > This is what happens when governments try to ban guns > By Mark Steyn > (Filed: 05/01/2003) > > You would thin

Re: SCOUTED: This is what happens when governments try to ban guns

2003-05-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:25 PM 5/29/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: Meanwhile in the 'Don't leave us Roy!' state: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_1974671,00.html Ah yes, the Rocky Mountain News. Generally much more interesting and informative than the Denver Post, but a lot harder

Re: SCOUTED: This is what happens when governments try to ban guns

2003-05-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:03 PM 5/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: <<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/01/05/do0502.xml>> This is what happens when governments try to ban guns By Mark Steyn (Filed: 05/01/2003) You would think if "gun control" was going to work anywhere i

SCOUTED: This is what happens when governments try to ban guns

2003-05-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
<<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/01/05/do0502.xml>> This is what happens when governments try to ban guns By Mark Steyn (Filed: 05/01/2003) You would think if "gun control" was going to work anywhere it would be on a small island. Particul