Chad Cooper wrote:
Forbes Rating of Worst Commutes to work:
Greater Los Angeles
San Fran
Dallas/Fort Worth
Houston
Washington D.C.
Denver
Nerd From Hell
character_impression type=bully source=Race for your life, Charlie
Brown
We're number one!
We're number one!
We'renumberone!
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last time any female member of my family was on the
Boston subway after
dark, someone pointed a gun at her. So I'm a little
less enthusiastic
about after-hours use of the Boston subway than you.
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
The only times I've been on the subway at night were times when I
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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At 03:32 PM 11/3/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
I wrote:
Someone else said once in the same newsgroup Of course, since
JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway.
jms' reply was Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey
Jim replied:
Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey? There
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
If you want to spend hours commuting to and from work,
Jersey's your
place
I wrote:
Someone else said once in the same newsgroup Of course, since
JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway.
jms' reply was Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey
Jim replied:
Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey? There aren't that many
areas in the world where you are
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Reggie Bautista
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 01:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
Then I drove to Colorado. If most people's
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Forbes Rating of Worst Commutes to work:
Greater Los Angeles
San Fran
Dallas/Fort Worth
Houston
Washington D.C.
Denver
grunt
I saw this the other day...hard to believe that we're
worse than New York or Boston, but I can vouch for
Dallas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
New Jersey gets bad press...mostly by people who have never actually been
here or whose personal experience
Erik Reuter wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation
system in the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
In Jersey, there just aren't enough train lines to live next to
unless you just want to commute to New York or Philly, in which
case, I'd
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:05:38AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
From this day forward every Mexican I meet will hear about what a
wonderful place New Jersey is and how much more money they will make
if they move there.
Actually, there are quite a few Mexicans living and working in Jersey.
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 08:40:07AM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Can anyone cite me an example of good public transportation *into* a
metropolitan area?
Chicago and Cincinnati both have excellent buses from the suburbs to the
city.
But that isn't the issue. NJ has bad roads, few trains, and
At 08:40 AM 11/2/03 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation
system in the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
In Jersey, there just aren't enough train lines to live next to
unless you just want to commute to
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:02:19 -0600
At 08:40 AM 11/2/03 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Someone else said once in the same newsgroup Of course, since
JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway.
jms' reply was Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey
Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey?
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New Jersey gets bad press...mostly by people who have never actually
been here or whose personal experience is limited to the area around
Newark Airport...which would be kind of like judging the entire state of
Alaska only by looking at Prince
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation system in
the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
You can survive a lot better in DC without a car than you can in, say,
northwest Austin. (Which is still more survivable without a car than
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:05:38AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
From this day forward every Mexican I meet will hear about what a
wonderful place New Jersey is and how much more money they will make
if they move there.
Actually, there are
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
Texas won't stand for such insults Tom!
Texas is SO touchy. For all its size and bluster, it must really
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DC Metro system rocks!
Julia
As someone who grew up there, I have to say, I'm
shocked to hear you say it. I always hated the DC
Metro system because it was:
1) Too expensive and
2) Not extensive
By which I meant that it cost a lot to get
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:58:52AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
and have somewhat more regular work than that. Do you see many Mexicans
with more regular employment than just pick-up work?
Yes, the townhome associations seem to have all Mexicans working for
them.
--
Erik Reuter
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:55:52AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
but the whole thing of not being *allowed* to pump your own gas bugged us.
Me too! My first time I got yelled at for trying (there were no signs
telling me!)
--
Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:05:38AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
From this day
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From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
The main thing I notice when I travel is that the subway or rail systems
in
other cities
I would prefer a monorail system instead.
People of Springfield Monorail! Monorail! Monorail! /People of Springfield
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the
last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I would prefer a monorail system instead.
Umm, how does it go, is there a danger that the track will bend?
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Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
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In a message dated 11/2/03 3:22:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I would prefer a monorail system instead.
Umm, how does it go, is there a danger that the track will bend?
Not on your life, my Hindu friend!
Tom Beck
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I would
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DC Metro system rocks!
Julia
As someone who grew up there, I have to say, I'm
shocked to hear you say it. I always hated the DC
Metro system because it was:
1) Too expensive and
2) Not
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:55:52AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
but the whole thing of not being *allowed* to pump your own gas bugged us.
Me too! My first time I got yelled at for trying (there were no signs
telling me!)
We'd once driven an extra
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last time any female member of my family was on the
Boston subway after
dark, someone pointed a gun at her. So I'm a little
less enthusiastic
about after-hours use of the Boston subway than you.
Julia
Wow - I'd never heard of such a
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You pinko you. You know that mass transit is the
second step on the road
to communism. :-)
Dan M.
Hey, the fact that I like it doesn't make it good
public policy :-) The question of whether it is or
not is open to debate. I _don't know_.
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
but the whole thing of not being *allowed* to pump your own
gas bugged us.
Me too! My first time I got yelled at for trying (there were no
signs
telling me!)
Imagine coming from New Jersey to another state. The first time I
went driving in
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
People of Springfield Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
/People of Springfield
HomerU...Donuts. Is there nothing they can't do?/Homer
- jmh
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On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 04:17:31PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Yes, we have toxic waste and obnoxious IROC drivers, but otherwise
it's not too bad a place. Either that or I'm beyond help, which is
not out of the realm of possibility.
Transportation sucks. Traffic is horrible, and public
Erik Reuter wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Yes, we have toxic waste and obnoxious IROC drivers, but
otherwise it's not too bad a place.
Transportation sucks. Traffic is horrible, and public transit has
poor coverage unless you just want to go to New York or Philly.
Traffic's no worse than Atlanta
Transportation sucks. Traffic is horrible, and public transit has poor
coverage unless you just want to go to New York or Philly.
Well, bad traffic and poor public transit are not unique to New Jersey. At
least New Jersey *has* New York and Philly to go to...not too many states are
situated
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 08:29:17PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Traffic's no worse than Atlanta or LA.
That would be damning with faint praise? Or like saying Fargo has nice
weather compared to Antarctica?
--
Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 08:36:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, bad traffic and poor public transit are not unique to New
Jersey. At least New Jersey *has* New York and Philly to go to...not
too many states are situated so favorably between two such terrific
cities.
If you want to
New Jersey gets bad press...mostly by people who
have never actually been
here or whose personal experience is limited to the
area around Newark
Airport...which would be kind of like judging the
entire state of Alaska only by looking
at Prince William Sound immediately after the Exxon
If you want to spend hours commuting to and from work, Jersey's your place
then!
You're acting like New Jersey is somehow uniquely bad in this regard. The
traffic near Boston, DC, Long Island, LA, and Atlanta is at least at bad and
probably worse. The Long Island Expressway is not
Erik Reuter wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
Traffic's no worse than Atlanta or LA.
That would be damning with faint praise? Or like saying Fargo has
nice weather compared to Antarctica?
No, it's that if you are going to say that the place sucks because of the traffic,
you're going to have to say
Tom Beck wrote:
You're acting like New Jersey is somehow uniquely bad in this
regard. The traffic near Boston, DC, Long Island, LA, and Atlanta
is at least at bad and probably worse.
Exactly. You *could* move to Montana and never see two cars at the same time on the
roads, but I don't know
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:07:26PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're acting like New Jersey is somehow uniquely bad in this
regard. The
No, I'm not. And we won't say what you are acting like :-)
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Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
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On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:10:19PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
No, it's that if you are going to say that the place sucks because of
the traffic, you're going to have to say that cities people treat as
being better than NJ suck too.
No, I don't have to. Face it, Jersey sucks! Don't be a Jersey
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:13:29PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Exactly. You *could* move to Montana and never see two cars at the
same time on the roads, but I don't know how many engineers they're
hiring.
Or Jersey could build better roads and public transportation that
doesn't suck!
--
Erik Reuter wrote:
No, I don't have to. Face it, Jersey sucks! Don't be a Jersey
apologist :-)
hehehe, well, I'll admit that we *do* need to apologize big hair, flashing license
plate frames, and ever allowing Joe Pisarcik to be a quarterback. We good? :)
Jim
Erik Reuter wrote:
Or Jersey could build better roads and public transportation
that doesn't suck!
It's been my observation that at least part of the problem with improving public
transportation is that Americans like their cars too much. If the state *was* to
improve the system, I really
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:32:03PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation system in
the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
But then you have a CHOICE! You don't have to sit in traffic, you can
take the subway! New York city and Chicago both
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:34:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
B) Don't bother arguing with Erik - he's baiting us. There's no point
responding to his obvious (if lame) attempts at trolling.
Wrong as usual, Tom.
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