Re: Obama II

2014-03-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Actually, bugs/design flaws caught during the design phase cost far less than those discovered during the build. Doug GSV Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

RE: Obama II

2012-11-17 Thread Dan Minette
> > However, the "best bugs" are introduced during programming, but much > earlier. Catching bugs at the earliest possible time is expensive, but > the ROI is immense and outweighs the cost by several orders of > magnitude. Of course, any manager who was reading this dropped out at > the word "exp

Re: Obama II

2012-11-12 Thread Klaus Stock
or meters?", or "should we check if the old guidance system will work okay in the new rocket?" - Klaus >> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:06:16 +0100 >> From: k...@stock-consulting.com >> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com >> Subject: Re: Obama II >> >> > I kn

RE: Obama II

2012-11-12 Thread Pat Mathews
This plays into some recent conversations about "efficiency" vs "resilience." > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:06:16 +0100 > From: k...@stock-consulting.com > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: Obama II > > > I know as a fact that the Defense Depart

Re: Obama II

2012-11-12 Thread Klaus Stock
> I know as a fact that the Defense Department said they > would require that all programming for applications they used would have to > be done in Ada (I think within 5 years) because Ada was a compiler that > automatically eliminated bugs. AFAIK, the Ada compiler can detect many programmer mista

Re: Obama II

2012-11-12 Thread ALBERTO VIEIRA FERREIRA MONTEIRO
Bryon Daly wrote: > > Further, as a Mormon, Romney doesn't quite pass the WASP test so he > basically had to tack hard right to build up his conservative cred to get > the party nomination. > Ugh. Mormons have taken control of the Internet (by Facebook). I'm glad they didn't take control of the USA

RE: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Dan Minette
>I didn't realize how unclear it is whether Reagan and other top officials regarded it as a bluff or >not, until I poked around a bit just now. Easy to see how they might have started off serious, then >decided to re-write history and say it was all a bluff. I have some up-close and personal e

Re: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Warren Adams-Ockrassa
I recall Carl Sagan despairing that Reagan believed it. The amount of money and resources that went into live tests would suggest there was faith at the top, regardless of what those 'lower' in the chain of command might have thought. At the time SW was being promoted, it gave all the appearanc

Re: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Nick Arnett
I didn't realize how unclear it is whether Reagan and other top officials regarded it as a bluff or not, until I poked around a bit just now. Easy to see how they might have started off serious, then decided to re-write history and say it was all a bluff. I have some up-close and personal experie

Re: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread David Hobby
On 11/11/2012 6:00 PM, Dan Minette wrote: ... Well, I also read that parts of it simply failedreporting 0 votes from a long list on election day. The part that targeted voting lists to cull those who haven't voted for attention can be made modular. I don't think it was just a software fai

RE: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Dan Minette
On Star Wars, it worked as a bluff, but I don't think Reagan was bluffing. I think he believed. I know as a fact that the Defense Department said they would require that all programming for applications they used would have to be done in Ada (I think within 5 years) because Ada was a compiler that

Re: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Nick Arnett
Star Wars had a critical difference. It didn't need to work because it was all a giant bluff. Romney had little or nothing to gain by bluffing. Back to the facts. The Romney team said the software was running 20-30 minutes behind. And pointed out that, as you suggest, there was no real way to test

RE: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Dan Minette
Nick wrote >Sounded like a classic scalability problem. I would guess otherwise. This would be an interesting geekish debate to have. My guess is that its akin to the problem with Star Wars software, which was assumed to work first time untested. From what I read, their software did not lend

Re: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread Nick Arnett
Sounded like a classic scalability problem. I'm looking forward to our company telling our election software story. Had been super secret. Nick On Sunday, November 11, 2012, David Hobby wrote: > On a related note, I've been reading about problems with the Romney > campaign's software to organiz

Re: Obama II

2012-11-11 Thread David Hobby
On a related note, I've been reading about problems with the Romney campaign's software to organize election day get-out-the-vote efforts. My first reaction was "Sabotage?", but now I'm betting that incompetence is the more likely explanation. See: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/pres

Re: Obama II

2012-11-10 Thread Bryon Daly
>Here in Brazil, we had the impression that the Republicans "chose" the worst possible candidate, someone they put there to lose. Or maybe the Democrats voted in the Republican primaries to make him win. A big part of Romney's appeal was that as a tremendously successful businessman, he was afforde

RE: Obama II

2012-11-09 Thread Dan Minette
>In terms of the popular vote, as of now Obama has 61,174,297 votes, while Romney has 58,172,063 votes A >difference of 3,002,234, so a fair margin and decisively winning the popular vote for Obama. The difference is going to be slighly above 2.5% and slightly above the Bush margin over Kerry, bu

Re: Obama II

2012-11-09 Thread Warren Adams-Ockrassa
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 07:17:25 -0200, ALBERTO VIEIRA FERREIRA MONTEIRO wrote: So... What about Obama's reelection? Here in Brazil, we had the impression that the Republicans "chose" the worst possible candidate, someone they put there to lose. Or maybe the Democrats voted in the Republican primar

RE: Obama II

2012-11-09 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of ALBERTO VIEIRA FERREIRA MONTEIRO Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 3:17 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Obama II So... What about Obama's reelection? >Here in Br

RE: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-05 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 5 Nov 2008 at 10:58, Curtis Burisch wrote: > Andrew Crystall wrote: > > >> > It seems to me that the free market does a poor job in this regard; > >> > >> It seems to me the government does a poor job in this regard. I don't > >> want a bunch of politicians deciding which drugs to spend my

RE: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-05 Thread Curtis Burisch
Andrew Crystall wrote: >> > It seems to me that the free market does a poor job in this regard; >> >> It seems to me the government does a poor job in this regard. I don't >> want a bunch of politicians deciding which drugs to spend my money on. >> I'm perfectly capable of deciding for myself.

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-05 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Nov 2008 at 7:42, John Williams wrote: > > It seems to me that the free market does a poor job in this regard; > > It seems to me the government does a poor job in this regard. I don't > want a bunch of politicians deciding which drugs to spend my money on. > I'm perfectly capable of decidi

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-04 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if there were government incentives/grants to develop the pharms? I don't want them doing that with my money! > It seems to me that the free market does a poor job in this regard; It seems to me the government does

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Nov 2008 at 21:48, Doug Pensinger wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > > Drug development is an industry with high fixed costs. Once those fixed, > > or sunk, costs have been committed, the drugs are sold for the price that > > the market will bear. According to the expert who wrote the article

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: > Drug development is an industry with high fixed costs. Once those fixed, > or sunk, costs have been committed, the drugs are sold for the price that > the market will bear. According to the expert who wrote the article, the > more socialized markets settle on a lower price t

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-01 Thread John Williams
Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So the claim here is that Americans are almost solely subsidizing the drug > development costs for the entire rest of the world? That is an odd way to phrase it. I would have paraphrased part of the article as, "Americans are subsidizing drug development costs f

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-01 Thread Bryon Daly
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:48 PM, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/30/obama-drug-medicine-oped-cx_ch_1031hooper.html > > > As I wrote in the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics: "What complicates > the picture is socialized medicine, which exists in a

Re: Obama and the 'Drug Killer'

2008-11-01 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 31 Oct 2008 at 12:48, John Williams wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/30/obama-drug-medicine-oped-cx_ch_1031hooper.html > > Obama And The 'Drug Killer' > Charles Hooper 10.31.08, 12:00 AM ET No, that's just a good argument for compulsory publishing of all drug studies (a very g

Re: Obama

2008-05-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan M wrote: > > > But, as you noted elsewhere, your general position is against the broad > middle of the viewpoint of the US. That sort of viewpoint is not > unwelcome > here. I think it is safe to say that folks who see a lot of > reasonableness > in mainstream Republican ideas do not post m

RE: Obama

2008-05-11 Thread jon louis mann
it's all relative, dan. i notice a lot of sf fans are pragmatic, and independent. we don't necessarily hew to dogmatic party lines. jm It's true that Sci-Fi fans are not randomly sampled from the general population. But, I have two distributions that I was considering when I made my statement:

RE: Obama

2008-05-11 Thread Dan M
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of jon louis mann > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:38 PM > To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion > Subject: Obama > > This reminded me that I'm both an Obama delegate and, probably, the one > who has