Trent Shipley wrote:
On Wednesday 2004-01-28 19:30, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
William Taylor wrote:
You leave out the very important:
41M BxY: Rediscovery of transfer points to galaxies originally numbered
Seven and Eleven, now renumbered Two and Four.
Earth is in Galaxy Two
In a message dated 2/24/2004 9:04:01 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Toilet Theory features in a non-uplift short story by Brin
in his most recent collection, and could explain why such things
would be on his mind. This, of course, doesn't change whether
he wants
The timeline has been very slightly modified to accomodate two literary
coincidences that should bother no one but Alberto.
1492: Discovery of the Americas
1961: Yuri Gagarin in space
2211: First contact, 500 years after 1961
2492: Action resumes with the next Uplift Novel, 1000 years after
On Wednesday 2004-01-28 19:30, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
William Taylor wrote:
You leave out the very important:
41M BxY: Rediscovery of transfer points to galaxies originally numbered
Seven and Eleven, now renumbered Two and Four.
Earth is in Galaxy Two which was Galaxy Seven, which
Trent Shipley wrote:
1.6 BYA: Contact lost with three galaxies [7, 9, 11] Remaining
Galaxies renumbered. Eight galaxies remain. The disaster results
in cultural upheavals and sparks the first wave of memnetic plagues.
But of course this would not allow the Cambrian explosion on Earth
In a message dated 1/29/2004 7:13:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Better ask WT. He's the expert in Galaxy counting :-)
Only that Earth is in Two, and Hurumphta, and supposedly the Hoon home world,
isn't.
[Contradicting GU2, I think. Though there has to be a
The timeline has been very slightly modified to accomodate two literary
coincidences that should bother no one but Alberto.
1492: Discovery of the Americas
1961: Yuri Gagarin in space
2211: First contact, 500 years after 1961 (Over Alberto M.'s vigorous
objection that it should remain 2212.)
Trent Shipley wrote:
The timeline has been very slightly modified to accomodate two
literary coincidences that should bother no one but Alberto.
Yes, such coincidences bother me :-)
1492: Discovery of the Americas
1961: Yuri Gagarin in space
2211: First contact, 500 years after 1961 (Over
Trent Shipley wrote:
Why not add the following:
545 MYA: Diversity is artificially induced in many worlds, including
Earth [causing the Cambrian explosion]. This is the last reference to
Earth in the Galactic Library.
It depends on DB.
Yes. And He wrote on 1999-05-24:
Re: The
Trent Shipley wrote:
Yuri Gagarin was the first man in space on 12 April 1961. So the date for
Contact is stuck at 2211 because it makes Contact happen 250 years after we
went into space. 2212 just won't do.
Math logic looses to literary logic.
Whenever I find round periods like 250
William Taylor wrote:
You leave out the very important:
41M BxY: Rediscovery of transfer points to galaxies originally numbered
Seven and Eleven, now renumbered Two and Four.
Earth is in Galaxy Two which was Galaxy Seven, which was lost from 150M BxY
to 41M BxY, which includes the height
Trent Shipley wrote:
2.26G BxY (a): Progenitors physically leave the Galaxies (according to
Inheritor legend).
Or transcend, according to Awaiter legend [CA]
1.6G BxY: Contact lost with three galaxies. Eight galaxies remain. The
disaster results in cultural upheavals and sparks the first
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Trent Shipley wrote:
NB! I would like to make contact and all the future fictional dates 100
years in the future. The date for human NLS interstellar engines (2061 CE)
is absurd. 2161CE seems safely remote.
I don't think it's absurd - it depends on the rate of space
Some comments:
2.8 - 2.2 BYA: Progenitors rule the galaxies in what is
traditionally thought to be a Golden Age. Mention of 13 Galaxies.
Records extremely sketchy.
It seems that what is implied by the text of Contact Aliens is that
_early_ in this period Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2 became linked,
On Tuesday 2004-01-27 15:35, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Some comments:
2.8 - 2.2 BYA: Progenitors rule the galaxies in what is
traditionally thought to be a Golden Age. Mention of 13 Galaxies.
Records extremely sketchy.
It seems that what is implied by the text of Contact Aliens is that
0xY /2211 CE: First Galactic Contact. Human explorers contact
Tymbrimi colonists. This was 87 paktaars ago by Galactic measure.
Nope.
So it needs to be 2212 CE. BTW, what was the date the first Cosmonaut went
into space.
Yuri Gagarin was the first man in space on 12 April 1961.
Made some changes.
--
Time-Line: History of the Five Galaxies[1]
G = Billion, M = Million, K = Thousand;
BCE=Before Common (Terragen) Era (=BC), CE = Common (Terragen) Era (=AD);
BxY = before Contact, 0xY = year of Contact (= 2211 CE), AxY = after
Contact;
All
In a message dated 1/27/2004 5:28:18 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
545 MYA: Diversity is artificially induced in many worlds, including Earth
[causing the Cambrian explosion]. This is the last reference to Earth in
the Galactic Library.
It depends on DB. I expect
In a message dated 1/27/2004 6:13:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
150M BxY: Social discord over redevelopment initiates Second Gronin
Collapse.
Permanent loss of contact with two Galaxies.
[Four and Seven! Pay attention to the numbers.]
Four Galaxies remain in
On Tuesday 2004-01-27 19:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/27/2004 6:13:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
150M BxY: Social discord over redevelopment initiates Second Gronin
Collapse.
Permanent loss of contact with two Galaxies.
[Four and Seven!
On Tuesday 2004-01-27 19:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/27/2004 6:13:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
150M BxY: Social discord over redevelopment initiates Second Gronin
Collapse.
Permanent loss of contact with two Galaxies.
[Four and Seven!
Yet more revisions. This time related to sundering-knitting. One snarky
remark I am already starting to regret.
--
Time-Line: History of the Five Galaxies[1]
G = Billion, M = Million, K = Thousand;
BCE=Before Common (Terragen) Era (=BC), CE = Common (Terragen) Era (=AD);
BxY = before
In a message dated 1/27/2004 8:59:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
. Cultural drift is inevitable. [So WT,
how does this further the plot?]
A blacksmith uses a drift to forge an opening where once there was nothing
but solid material.
The trick is to not make
In a message dated 1/27/2004 8:59:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
60M BxY: The three core galaxies re-establish contact with Andromeda and
the
Milky Way that were lost at about 150M BxY. This is a time of
medium-scale troubles. A zone of Ash forms in the
On Tuesday 2004-01-27 22:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/27/2004 8:59:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
60M BxY: The three core galaxies re-establish contact with Andromeda and
the
Milky Way that were lost at about 150M BxY. This is a time of
Trent Shipley wrote:
NB! I would like to make contact and all the future fictional dates 100
years in the future. The date for human NLS interstellar engines (2061 CE)
is absurd. 2161CE seems safely remote.
I don't think it's absurd - it depends on the rate of space exploration. It
just
In a message dated 1/26/2004 7:29:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
don't think it's absurd - it depends on the rate of space exploration. It
just shows that in some point in the 1980s there was a cusp event
that separated the Uplift Timeline from ours :-)
Regan
Trent Shipley wrote:
Before do a write-up I needed some dates, so I re-collated the timeline.
Let me know what you think.
I have just returned from a week-long vacation trip, and I have
2028 e-mails to read O:-)
But I promise I will take a look at the data asap.
Alberto Monteiro
Trent Shipley wrote:
620 MYA: The ecologically insensitive Lions dominate the
Galaxies. Ash spreads through 30% of Galaxy One and 20% of
Galaxy Two. Complex sea life on Earth.
I think I remember the Cambrian Explosion being closer to
560 MYA, but it's been a while since I read about it.
12
On Monday 2004-01-19 01:55, The Fool wrote:
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12 MYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered.
Within
1000 years it is extinct.
52 KYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered.
Within
a thousand years,
In a message dated 1/20/2004 8:04:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lost track of which galaxy is which number here.
Just in case...
141 MYA: [Contacting Aliens entry ignored.]
I don't have a copy handy. I don't remember which entry this is.
But I do know that
On Tuesday 2004-01-20 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/20/2004 8:04:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lost track of which galaxy is which number here.
I didn't so much loose track of each Galaxy as give up on tracking them. I
just tried to keep a
In a message dated 1/20/2004 9:31:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But I do know that as presented in Contacting Aliens, Earth's entire age
of
dinosaurs occured outside of the current Galactic Civilization.
What do you mean by outside?
The galactics never
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12 MYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered.
Within
1000 years it is extinct.
52 KYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered.
Within
a thousand years, it is extinct.
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