RE: The Hazards of Watching Fox News

2003-10-07 Thread ritu
Bryon Daly wrote: In any case, Dan M. mentioned a few, but I will add one: The misperception of the current state of affairs in Iraq as a complete shambles. The news regularly portrays it as such. Recently, Dan Rather (of CBS news) remarked after a story from a reporter about how

Time to Recall E-Vote Machines?

2003-10-07 Thread The Fool
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60713,00.html Time to Recall E-Vote Machines? By Kim Zetter 08:39 AM Oct. 06, 2003 PT As Californians head to the polls on Tuesday, voters in at least one county will cast their ballots electronically on machines that have been shown to be flawed.

Re: HHGTTG- Greenlighted

2003-10-07 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote: Limbaugh is proof that the Vogon invasion has begun. Let the bulldozers be in that case. This is past. The destruction of the Earth happened on 1981-09-03. We live in the reconstruced Earth. Alberto Monteiro ___

Re: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: --- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bloody amateurs. think they invented alienation. Sheesh. Alienation? who said anything about alienation? Is that really the way GenX X- and Y looks to you? Do you really think that they feel alienated? If you do, then your

Scouted: Exchanging Emails through a Handshake

2003-10-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
This could also be used to enhance your fingerprint with any digital information, not just your business card. Jon http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5239758%255E13762,00.html Exchange emails through handshake TWO Japanese telecoms giants have developed technology that turns the

RE: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-07 Thread Chad Cooper
Calvin: ~sighs~ What's the point? GONA BE A PUNK ROCKER! Let me remind everyone that the Punk Movement started roaring in the late 70's. Any punk rocker who remembers when it started is a minimum age of 30 and closer to 40 (I'm 35.. A regular X-Gen Patriarch). Back in my 'day' we used safety

When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread aclipscomb
Chad wrote: Let me remind everyone that the Punk Movementstarted roaring in the late 70's. Any punk rockerwho remembers when it started is a minimum age of 30 and closer to 40 (I'm 35.. A regular X-Gen Patriarch). Back in my 'day' we used safety pins to do body

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Horn, John
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to a whole album, we had to STAND UP AND TURN IT OVER on the record player - we didn't have the MP3 or the CD. We used VINYL. Heck! We had to stand up to change the channel on the *TV*! And only had 10 channels to

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Horn, John wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to a whole album, we had to STAND UP AND TURN IT OVER on the record player - we didn't have the MP3 or the CD. We used VINYL. Heck! We had to stand up to change the channel on the *TV*! And

Re: Twin pictures

2003-10-07 Thread Steve Sloan II
Julia Thompson wrote: http://www.zurg.net/twins.html 5) Catherine She could be a Bangle, because she's walking like an Egyptian! ;-) Cute pictures. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Br!n: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/7/2003 1:19:29 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heck! We had to stand up to change the channel on the *TV*! And only had 10 channels to boot. 11 if you counted that one from Philly that only came in once in a long while... 10? What luxury.

Re: Twin pictures

2003-10-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Steve Sloan II wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: http://www.zurg.net/twins.html 5) Catherine She could be a Bangle, because she's walking like an Egyptian! ;-) You're not the first to make that observation. :) Cute pictures. Thanks! Steve, if you want to put up one or two on

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Chad Cooper
-Original Message- From: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:18 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to

RE: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Chad wrote: Let me remind everyone that the Punk Movement started roaring in the late 70's. Any punk rocker who remembers when it started is a minimum age of 30 and closer to 40 (I'm 35.. A regular X-Gen Patriarch). Back in my 'day' we used safety pins to do body piercings, unlike the youth of

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Chad asked: Has it been that long since you had to snip a bit out of a 5.25 floppy to use both sides... That is for those luck enough to have a floppy disk... everyone else had to use a cassette recorder to load a program... And what about sound? A program rocked if it beeped... And if it

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: Among the higher Eeeu!-factor medical treatments are the use of maggots to clean gangrenous wounds, and leeches for therapeutic blood reduction; now comes the lowly pig whipworm for imflammatory bowel disease(IBD).

RE: Racism

2003-10-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: [I don't recall who asked this - sorry!] You mean, the people from India with brown skin colour? I think they were lumped with the whites, among the Aryans. In South Africa I think they were called colored...didn't this

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) -Original Message- From: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert J. Chassell wrote: Perhaps continually releasing new microbes will have the effect; but I think the novel employs some literary exaggeration. Is it not true that in practice, in a closed community, you don't get colds, not after

Re: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:55 AM Subject: RE: Brin: rejuveniles Calvin: ~sighs~ What's the point? GONA BE A PUNK ROCKER! Let me remind everyone that the Punk Movement

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Debbi wrote: I learned the human variety as 'Trichuria' and pronounced it like a whipcrack tri-*KUR-i-a! to help me remember that it was a whipworm...the lengths to which one must go to memorize stuff. :) (whipworm, pinworm, roundworm, tapeworm, liver fluke...I still recall most of the species

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Chad Cooper
Nerd From Hell OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) I'll take that challenge (sort of, although I know

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Dan wrote: OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) Oldest worked on or oldest owned? The oldest one I (or my family)

Re: Rush Limbaugh sings I'm A Nazi

2003-10-07 Thread TomFODW
This is a must hear! An absolutely perfect piece of work. It must be heard to be believedG http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/pdupdate.htm Its near the very bottom of the page, just below the link box. I almost died laughingG Who wrote and performed this? It's priceless!

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Debbi wrote: All my teacher friends complained of coming down with cold after cold the first several years of work; now they have immune systems of steel! I've heard that about your first three years at a new gradeschool or daycare center, you catch just about *everything,* and that's true of your

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread d.brin
OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) I had an Apple II with serial number in 5 digits. Used integer basic and a

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/7/2003 2:55:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:02:47 -0500 - Original Message - From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Russell Chapman
Dan Minette wrote: OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) Depends on a few definitions. I worked on an IBM system in

Re: The Hazards of Watching Fox News

2003-10-07 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 11:00 am, ritu wrote: Bryon Daly wrote: I am not assuming that only the clueless/duped were pro-war. What I *am* assuming is that a vast majority of the pro-war group was *not* well-informed. I know many well-informed pro-war people who still believe it was for

Re: Rush Limbaugh sings I'm A Nazi

2003-10-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh sings I'm A Nazi This is a must hear! An absolutely perfect piece of work. It must be heard to be believedG

Life Eaters

2003-10-07 Thread Sean Kane
Crawling out of my hole (briefly) to remind everyone... New Brin Book Tomorrow!!! (or so says DC Comics) http://www.dccomics.com/comics/ws_display.html?cm_ws_itemCode=lifeeatersmonth=O ctober or http://makeashorterlink.com/?R3E312326 While I'm here... congrats to all the new parents, and I

Leaving California

2003-10-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Well, I just hung some chad. Here in Santa Clara County, we're still using the infamous punch cards. I don't think my votes on the recall will have any real impact, though, since I voted against it and for the lieutenant governor. The exit polls are depressing. Tomorrow, I'm probably going

Arafat has suffered heart attack

2003-10-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1058298,00.html Yasser Arafat has suffered a mild heart attack but the Palestinian leadership has sought to keep his health problems secret for fear it will create panic. The 74-year-old Palestinian president, who is suffering from Parkinson's

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:18 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to a whole album, we had to STAND UP AND TURN IT OVER on the record player - we didn't have the MP3 or the CD. We used VINYL. Heck! We had to stand up to change the channel on

RE: Life Eaters

2003-10-07 Thread Jim Sharkey
Sean Kane wrote: Crawling out of my hole (briefly) to remind everyone... New Brin Book Tomorrow!!! I dunno. I read the last collaboration between Hampton and Dr. Brin, _Forgiveness_, and I was underwhelmed. Some of that might be my distaste for Hampton's art style (which I've been down on

Re: When I Was Your Age..

2003-10-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 05:02 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) -Original Message- From:

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-07 Thread David Hobby
Deborah Harrell wrote: ... at least with maggots or leeches they eventually LEAVE your body! ---David It's not a parasite, it's a symbiote! : ) grin Well, in most cases the worm eggs have to be taken every three weeks to keep the disease in remission;

Re: When I Was Your Age...

2003-10-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
While we're on the topic, I also remember the family next door owning a TV with one of the first remote controls. It was two buttons: 'power on/off' and 'channel' and made a horrendous clicking noise each time you used the button. I think you had to scroll through every channel to find the

list help: one cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
Change the header if it's wrong. (Could someone list the special headers we have/use/could use?) I have never drank coffee, but a relative does. She normally only drinks two cups, one in the morning and one at night. She buys one shot coffee pouches. Of course they are expensive. I'm trying to

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 03:18 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to a whole album, we had to STAND UP AND TURN IT OVER on the record player - we didn't have the MP3 or the CD. We used VINYL. Heck! We had to

RE: The Hazards of Watching Fox News

2003-10-07 Thread Bryon Daly
Sorry this is a *long* reply, as I've tried to include links to back up some of what I say, and have included excerpts of some relevant parts... From: ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryon Daly wrote: Well, I am not sure that this is a misperception. Neither is the US State department, at least not going

Re: list help: one cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread Reggie Bautista
Kevin wrote: Would anyone know of or use a machine that makes one cup using coffee grounds? Try the Black and Decker Brew 'n Go. It will make coffee and if you run it without coffee grounds in the machine but with a tea bag in the cup, it makes good tea also. Here's a link:

ATL: one cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread David Hobby
Kevin Tarr wrote: Change the header if it's wrong. (Could someone list the special headers we have/use/could use?) I have never drank coffee, but a relative does. She normally only drinks two cups, one in the morning and one at night. She buys one shot coffee pouches. Of course they are

Re: list help: one cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread Russell Chapman
Kevin Tarr wrote: Not looking to spend a lot of money, but it'd be a good Christmas gift. She has a regular coffee maker, but doing just one cup is tough. What about a Bodum - do you have them there? Has a clear pot where you throw the ground beans in and fill with boiling water (though I

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) Oldest I've owned is a Commodore-64. My

Re: The Hazards of Watching Fox News

2003-10-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
ritu wrote: Bryon Daly wrote: I don't think there was ever as much concensus as you indicate. Well, I seem to have been wrong about the media at least. Again, I could be wrong here but I seem to recall polls which indicated public support for the war as above 70%. You would

Re: Scouted: Exchanging Emails through a Handshake

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:16 PM 10/7/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: This could also be used to enhance your fingerprint with any digital information, not just your business card. Jon http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5239758%255E13762,00.html Exchange emails through handshake TWO Japanese telecoms

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:50 PM 10/7/03 -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: And what about sound? A program rocked if it beeped... And now every bloody thing in the world beeps, buzzes, chirps, queeps, or plays annoying tinny music . . . unless it is blaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam at you. When I was your age . . . it was

Re: Absolutely no help: two cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/7/2003 8:12:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would anyone know of or use a machine that makes one cup using coffee grounds? Not a coffee drinker. But... In the spirit of one of Dr. Brin's latest communications. If you had to buy a two cup

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:39 PM 10/7/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: Among the higher Eeeu!-factor medical treatments are the use of maggots to clean gangrenous wounds, So how accurate was last night's episode of CSI: Miami? -- Ronn!

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:02 PM 10/7/03 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) -Original Message-

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:55 PM 10/7/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:02:47 -0500 - Original

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:07 AM 10/8/03 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: Dan Minette wrote: OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) Depends on

Re: The Hazards of Watching Fox News

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:56 AM 10/8/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 11:00 am, ritu wrote: Bryon Daly wrote: I am not assuming that only the clueless/duped were pro-war. What I *am* assuming is that a vast majority of the pro-war group was *not* well-informed. I know many

RE: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:15 PM 10/7/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 03:18 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to a whole album, we had to STAND UP AND TURN IT OVER on the record player - we didn't have the MP3 or the CD. We used VINYL. Heck!

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:21 PM 10/7/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: At 03:18 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we wanted to listen to a whole album, we had to STAND UP AND TURN IT OVER on the record player - we didn't have the MP3

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) Do you remember the math machines - kind of mechanical

Re: Absolutely no help: two cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:30 AM 10/8/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Taylor - (Half empty-half full of it.) Dunno about the first part, but the second part is clearly an understatement . . . ;-) -- Ronn! :) ___

Re: Absolutely no help: two cup coffee makers

2003-10-07 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/7/2003 10:02:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 12:30 AM 10/8/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Taylor - (Half empty-half full of it.) Dunno about the first part, but the second part is clearly an

Re: Leaving California

2003-10-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick Arnett wrote: Well, I just hung some chad. Here in Santa Clara County, we're still using the infamous punch cards. I don't think my votes on the recall will have any real impact, though, since I voted against it and for the lieutenant governor. The exit polls are depressing.