Re: Habitable Planets: was Notes on Uplift

2004-01-10 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2004-01-09 05:34, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Trent Shipley wrote: If there are 2M inhabited planets then there are 14M fallow planets. At any given time there must be a total of 16M habitable planets. Ok, 700ky, or 1My, don't change the final numbers very much -Total O-2

Re: Uplift Parity: was Notes on Uplift

2004-01-10 Thread Trent Shipley
On Friday 2004-01-09 03:46, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Trent Shipley wrote: There are two sorts of instability. One level of instability is at the level of the lineage. The other is the stablity of the inter-species political order. Moderate or serious disparities in wealth curves mean

Re: TV Editing

2004-01-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
It seems like the editing reported it exactly how it is. Dean plainly said that listening to other peoples' arguments for eight hours would be a waste of time for ordinary people - because they can't be convinced. JDG At 12:54 AM 1/10/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote:

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-10 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:29:34 -0600 Cry ribbit! and unleash the frogs of war. (I own a button with this

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-10 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:28:48 -0600 Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-10 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:25:45 -0800 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: An interesting tidbit of information.

2004-01-10 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: An interesting tidbit of information. Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:28:15 -0800 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Fwd: What Not to Do During LOTRs

2004-01-10 Thread Steve Sloan II
Subject: [Larryniven-l] OT: What Not to Do During LOTRs Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:34:32 - From: Nesssus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Larry Niven Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ln-l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Originally posted:

Re: TV Editing

2004-01-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:24 AM Subject: Re: TV Editing It seems like the editing reported it exactly how it is. Dean plainly said that listening to other peoples'

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
You see, I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage due to my age. I'm only 21, and I'm only now beginning to immerse myself into the things I really enjoy. -Travis Ahhh.Well that explains a lot. G There is nothing wrong with being young except that you are at a bit of a disadvantage when

Re: SCOUTED: Poincare Conjecture (Really) Solved?

2004-01-10 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Very good! In fact, so good I'll let you explain the rest of the statement of the Poincare Conjecture . . . ;-) ... I have a vision of producing a definition tree for the word homeomorphism, which I'll write as an outline: homeomorphism

The Core wins Stupid Movie Physics Award

2004-01-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/ The Core is a marvel. It has everything: common physics misconceptions, blatant misrepresentations of physical laws, a complete range of stereotypes, ridiculous feats of engineering, and pure fabrication of scientific facts. The weighty or sad parts are so

Ha Ha! At Last!

2004-01-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see, I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage due to my age. I'm only 21, and I'm only now beginning to immerse myself into the things I really enjoy. -Travis That mean's I'm no longer the youngest Brin-Ler. It's about time! :-) = Gautam

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Vilyehm Teighlore wrote: Or in Scotland you wake up with a blue ribbon tied Debbi replied: I Dunno Wher Ya Bin, Milad, But I See Ya Won Firs' Prize! Maru;} Funny this song should come up now... There are a lot of different versions of that last line. I don't know where ya bin my boy,

Re: SCOUTED: Poincare Conjecture (Really) Solved?

2004-01-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: A is homeomorphic to B means that there is a homeomorphism which maps A to B. A homeomorphism is a bicontinuous bijection. And that's supposed to help how? ;-) Reggie Bautista ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Physics Quiz

2004-01-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://intuitor.com/physics_test/PhysicsSavvy.html 77.5 % Embarrassing xponent But At Least I Passed Without Study G Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Physics Quiz

2004-01-10 Thread Horn, John
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intuitor.com/physics_test/PhysicsSavvy.html 85%. Not bad considering how long ago my last physics class was... Did horrible in Basic Kinematics which doesn't surprise me. Never did well on that in school! - jmh

Re: Physics Quiz

2004-01-10 Thread Michael Harney
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intuitor.com/physics_test/PhysicsSavvy.html 77.5 % Embarrassing 90% for me. IMO some of the questions were poorly worded. Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:13 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: Vilyehm Teighlore wrote: Or in Scotland you wake up with a blue ribbon tied Debbi replied: I Dunno Wher Ya Bin, Milad, But I See Ya Won Firs' Prize! Maru;} Funny this song should come up now... There are a lot of different versions of that last line. I

Re: Physics Quiz

2004-01-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:21 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: http://intuitor.com/physics_test/PhysicsSavvy.html 77.5 % Embarrassing xponent But At Least I Passed Without Study G Maru rob 80%. Two of the questions I missed because I did understood the answer differently, but I dispute some of the others. Not that

Shrub's Conspiracy to Invade Iraq Revealed by Ex-Admin Official

2004-01-10 Thread The Fool
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/printable592330.shtm l From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go, he tells Stahl. For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:17 PM 1/6/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_01_04_atrios_archive.html#1073407288252422 65 Double Standards on Regional Bigotry Imagine if I ran an ad which went something like George Bush should take his negro lynching, anti-intellectual, pig feet eating,

Re: Shrub's Conspiracy to Invade Iraq Revealed by Ex-Admin Official

2004-01-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:16 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/printable592330.shtm l From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go, he tells Stahl. For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 02:17 PM 1/6/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: ttp://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_01_04_atrios_archive.html#10734072882524 2265 Double Standards on Regional Bigotry Imagine if I ran an ad which went something like George Bush should take his negro

Divisional Playoff Pics

2004-01-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
Well, I went 3-1 last week after Seattle just couldn't seal the deal in overtime. As great as the Wildcard Weekend usually is, the Divisional Round is usually a disappointment. Since the modern playoff system began in 1990, the home team has won by 9 or more points nearly 70% of that time.

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 03:02 PM 1/10/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: This country has zero-tolerance for white-on-black race based insults. Bullshit. The Republican party is _built_ on confederate loving, racist, bigoted, bible thumping fundamentalists in the south. Republicans couldn't win without the bigot vote.

Re: SCOUTED: Poincare Conjecture (Really) Solved?

2004-01-10 Thread Julia Thompson
David Hobby wrote: No, I won't define sphere. And I suppose you won't define noncompressible and cow, either. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Right-wing press bias goes mainstream

2004-01-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:41 PM 1/6/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:33 PM 1/5/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: No _YOU_ Are Wrong. The article I pointed to Was Listed _Explitly_ AS NEWS, not as an editorial by The AP. I accessed your linke to the SFGate website, and found

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:02 PM 1/10/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: This country has zero-tolerance for white-on-black race based insults. Bullshit. The Republican party is _built_ on confederate loving, racist, bigoted, bible thumping fundamentalists in the south.

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:02 PM 1/10/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: This

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread William T Goodall
On 10 Jan 2004, at 9:25 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 03:02 PM 1/10/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: This country has zero-tolerance for white-on-black race based insults. Bullshit. The Republican party is _built_ on confederate loving, racist, bigoted, bible thumping fundamentalists in the south.

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
As promised, my ex-wife replies: The Texas Miracle or The National Nightmare.? snip rob I don't know how much was hers, if it all was. I'm not arguing against anything written. I just want to point out that this has been going on for years under all leadership, as the point seemed to be. I

Re: Ha Ha! At Last!

2004-01-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see, I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage due to my age. I'm only 21, and I'm only now beginning to immerse myself into the things I really enjoy. -Travis That mean's I'm no longer the youngest Brin-Ler. It's

Re: Ha Ha! At Last!

2004-01-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:35 PM 1/10/2004, you wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see, I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage due to my age. I'm only 21, and I'm only now beginning to immerse myself into the things I really enjoy. -Travis That mean's I'm no longer

Book questions

2004-01-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Has anyone read Kim Stanley Robinson's Orange County trilogy? Are they worth reading? George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Double Standards on Regional Bigotry

2004-01-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:08 PM 1/10/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: Bullshit. I wrote: There's no need to swear. The Fool wrote: That's not swearing. Uh, does *anyone* here agree with The Fool? JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Physics Quiz

2004-01-10 Thread G. D. Akin
- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 3:21 AM Subject: Physics Quiz http://intuitor.com/physics_test/PhysicsSavvy.html 77.5 % Embarrassing xponent But At Least I Passed Without Study G Maru

Re: Ha Ha! At Last!

2004-01-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/10/2004 9:36:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So who's oldest? George A P.S. I'm 53 and would just as soon NOT win the prize. 50 + one day And I do not brpth act the oldest. William Taylor

Re: Physics Quiz

2004-01-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/10/2004 10:43:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 77.5 % Embarrassing xponent But At Least I Passed Without Study G Maru rob Same score, but not embarrassed. George A 75% and I have no idea why it was so high. Nothing but

Re: Ha Ha! At Last!

2004-01-10 Thread G. D. Akin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2004 9:36:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So who's oldest? George A P.S. I'm 53 and would just as soon NOT win the prize. 50 + one day And I do not brpth act the oldest. William Taylor