the latest republican assaults on the constitution

2003-09-06 Thread The Fool
http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/cong14.htm AS CONGRESS RETURNS TO FOGGY BOTTOM, A HOST OF NEW RELIGION FRIENDLY BILLS ON THE AGENDA Web Posted: September 4, 2003 Lawmakers returning from their late-summer recess will take up a slew of new and old religion friendly legislative items. In

brin: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread The Fool
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0604-01.htm Midnight Ride of the Rabble by Thom Hartmann To every Middlesex village and farm, A cry of defiance, and not of fear, A voice in the darkness, a knock at the door, And a word that shall echo for evermore! For, borne on the night-wind of the

Re: Torcon 3

2003-09-06 Thread TomFODW
Highly discouraged top-post: Wow, did this topic devolve rapidly! I wondered about that myself (since I initiated it). Am I the only Brineller who went to Worldcon this year? Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I

RE: Brin: Transparent Society

2003-09-06 Thread Gary Nunn
Alberto wrote. What I *really* would like now is so simple that I still don't know why it's not available: a system so that I can keep track of the _approximate_ location of a cell phone. Cell Phones are all the time connected to a nearby station, so this system would enable me, for

2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
2003 NFL Preview AFC East - Bills Pats Dolphins Jets The Bills are a bit of a homer pick, and a bit out of character for me since I tend to disparage teams that make a load of offseason additions, but I expect the Bills to overcome a slow start and really take advantage of the sheer talent they

Week 1 Picks

2003-09-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
Well, I've already started the 2003 NFL Season off on the right foot by picking the Jets to rally around Vinny Testaverde and defeat the Washington Redskins. Oops! Getting essentially three shots to convert one yard with three minutes left in a tie game and failing every time simply cannot

Re: Torcon 3

2003-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
G. D. Akin wrote: Highly discouraged top-post: Wow, did this topic devolve rapidly! Well, some of us have minds regularly in the gutter, and some of us encourage such behavior in others. :) I got yelled at by the art teacher in 8th grade because I laughed every time Boris did something

Re: Brin: Transparent Society

2003-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: And while some people would indeed want to use it as Alberto suggested, to make sure his wife safely gets to work, I suspect that a lot of people would use it to track their spouse who they suspect of having an affair, or for stalking ex-spouses who have not thought to

Re: Roy's Rock and 'God-haters'

2003-09-06 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William T Goodall wrote in response to the fool: Christian fundamentalism, like all other forms of religious fundamentalism, fosters ignorance and certitude through the use of force. It creates division, and prevents progress through unity. Keep that in mind, the next

Re: Roy's Rock and 'God-haters'

2003-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or murdering doctors who happen to perform abortions amongst their many other services to their patients. It still strikes me as very contradictory that religious fundamentalists in following God's law claim to do so by consciously

Re: Productivity vs efficiency

2003-09-06 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Ray Ludenia wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: That, and in Belgium you usually get paid an all in salery. So if you finish early the rest of the hours are considered a bonus. I for one always found that extremely motivating. Wow, wouldn't that be fantastic! Most jobs here in Aus with a

Re: Roy's Rock and 'God-haters'

2003-09-06 Thread TomFODW
I think that in the minds of those extreme enough to kill doctors who perform abortions, what the doctors do is murder, and what they do in killing the doctors is justifiable and *not* murder.  (I disagree strongly with that position!  Guess I don't have what it takes to be a bomber or a

Re: brin: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread d.brin
I am no great fan of Emerson, whose romanticism often snubbed or insulted the Enlightenment. Still, as you might expect, I agree about feudalism. Look this way. Everywhere (!) that humans discovered both metallurgy agriculture, big men picked up metal implements and stole other men's women

Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Horn, John
Get your Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score! Mine is: Hacklust 51.89% Sensitive Roleplaying 58.23% GM Experience 55.07% Systems Knowledge 90.25% Livin' La Vida Dorka 62.07% You are 65.43% pure Average Score: 67.9% Here's the test... http://www.theferrett.com/rpg - jmh

Re: Roy's Rock and 'God-haters'

2003-09-06 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 9/6/03 5:33:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there *are* circumstances under which I *would* kill.  Just not religiously motivated ones.  My own survival, and that of my children, would be the prime motivating factor in any killing I did. Not that I agree with this

New Heinlein Book soon to be published

2003-09-06 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.heinleinsociety.org/newsFUTL.html For those of us who thought there would never again be another new Heinlein novel, the impossible has become reality . For Us, the Living, is a brand new, never before published novel by Robert A. Heinlein. It is going into print now for the first

Re: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Julia Thompson
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Re: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
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Re: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 04:18 PM 9/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: Get your Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score! Mine is: Hacklust 51.89% Sensitive Roleplaying 58.23% GM Experience 55.07% Systems Knowledge 90.25% Livin' La Vida Dorka 62.07% You are 65.43% pure Average Score: 67.9% Here's the test...

Conclusion of Galileo mission

2003-09-06 Thread Gary Nunn
Galileo, the interplanetary spacecraft that has changed the way we understand Jupiter and its 61 known moons, will perish on the 21st of this month as it plunges into the Jovian atmosphere. NASA engineers have put Galileo on a collision course with the planet so that the spacecraft, which is

Re: Brin: Transparent Society

2003-09-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: On the other hand, there are people who already complain about the fact that the cell phone service can locate their phone and the possibility that the company could be forced to give that information to law enforcement agencies who might be interested in tracking them

Re: br!n: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread Damon
And America was not conceived of as a feudal state, feudalism being broadly defined as rule by the super-rich. Rather, our nation was created in large part in reaction against centuries of European feudalism. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said in his lecture titled The Fortune of the Republic, delivered

Re: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Horn, John wrote: Get your Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score! Mine is: Hacklust 51.89% Sensitive Roleplaying 58.23% GM Experience 55.07% Systems Knowledge 90.25% Livin' La Vida Dorka 62.07% You are 65.43% pure Average Score: 67.9% 99.83% pure Doug

Re: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Damon
Hacklust 33.96% Sensitive Roleplaying 51.9% GM Experience 72.46% Systems Knowledge 92.51% Livin' La Vida Dorka 39.08% You are 62.54% pure Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. Now Building:

Re: br!n: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread David Hobby
Damon wrote: ... Of course I could go on to say that feudalism was an agreement between two men in which one did service for the other in exchange for land, and has nothing to do with rulership. But then, I don't think anyone really cares about history anymore, or getting it right... :(

Re: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/6/2003 5:11:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Horn, John wrote: Get your Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score! Mine is: Hacklust 51.89% Sensitive Roleplaying 58.23% GM Experience 55.07% Systems Knowledge 90.25% Livin'

Re: br!n: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread The Fool
From: Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] And America was not conceived of as a feudal state, feudalism being broadly defined as rule by the super-rich. Rather, our nation was created in large part in reaction against centuries of European feudalism. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said in his lecture titled

Re: Br!n: Transparent Society

2003-09-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 04:35 PM 9/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: On the other hand, there are people who already complain about the fact that the cell phone service can locate their phone and the possibility that the company could be forced to give that information to law enforcement agencies

Re: br!n: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread Damon
So feudalism was just a lot of private contracts? O.K.. But if one's choice is accept a serfdom contract or starve, isn't this in fact coercion? Technically serfdom is outside the bounds of feudalism because a serf does not do homage or swear fealty for his lands. Reguardless, using

Re: br!n: feudalism meme in america

2003-09-06 Thread David Hobby
Damon wrote: So feudalism was just a lot of private contracts? O.K.. But if one's choice is accept a serfdom contract or starve, isn't this in fact coercion? Technically serfdom is outside the bounds of feudalism because a serf does not do homage or swear fealty for his lands.

Re: 2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:22 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: 2003 NFL Preview AFC East - Bills Pats Dolphins Jets AFC North Steelers Bengals Browns Ravens AFC South Colts Titans Texans Jaguars AFC West Chargers *Chiefs *Raiders Broncos NFC East Giants Eagles Cowboys Redskins NFC North Packers Lions Vikings Bears NFC

Re: 2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-06 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 9/6/03 11:49 PM, Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bears will suck so bad they'll wish they were playing in Champaign again. You said that just to get at me. You are still angry that the Bears keep beating the Falcons no matter how good or bad they are. But what really angers me is