Re: Scouted: Article on camera phones and transparency issues

2003-12-12 Thread Russell Chapman
David Hobby wrote: Accordingly, as early as Dec. 17, the Chicago City Council is to vote on a proposal by Mr. Burke to ban the use of camera phones in public bathrooms, locker rooms and showers. Most Australian local councils have already done this, and most institutions also have signs at the

Irregulars Question on Eudora

2003-12-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
If you have noticed that I have been unusually quiet this week and wondered what was responsible for your good fortune, I'm sorry to have to tell you that I'm apparently back. Near as I can figure out, something in a spam message did not agree with Eudora and it crashed. Getting the latest

Re: Back to telescopes...

2003-12-12 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:15 AM 12/7/2003 -03-30, you wrote: I know what you mean with the kids though. I come from a large family, and I'm certanly aware of how much energy is expended in caring for them. Quite a time consuming task. Doesn't everyone come from somewhere? Welcome to the list Travis. Kevin T. -

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread G. D. Akin
William T Goodall wrote: snip Poul Anderson Read The Boat of a Million Years John Brunner Stand on Zanzibar Lois McMaster Bujold The entire Miles Vorkosigan Saga (Memory is my favorite) Thomas M Disch Non-fiction: The Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of an excellent discussion of SF

Re: Irregulars Question on Eudora

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 12 Dec 2003, at 7:48 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: With several hundred unique messages after a couple of days, and more arriving from you loquacious people all the time, going through and deleting them one at a time is not very practical, even though obviously two copies of a message take up

Re: Back to telescopes...

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Back to telescopes... Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:27:50 -0500 Welcome to the list Travis. Thank you.

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Science Fiction In General... Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:36:19 +0900 William T Goodall wrote: snip Poul Anderson Read The Boat of a Million Years

Re: Irregulars Question on Eudora

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
I use a lot of filters in Eudora and typically sort them by date when reading discussion groups. This keeps things manageable, and I can tell which messages are dupes when reading specific threads. I don't know of an easy way to get rid of them, other than reading a thread in question, skipping

Re: Challenge: 80's Lyrics Quiz

2003-12-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Gary Nunn wrote: Kind of long, and my score was embarrassingly low...but fun. http://www.yetanotherdot.com/asp/80s.html 74 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [ADMIN] Another dang interruption

2003-12-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Jon Gabriel wrote: Out of curiosity, has anyone an opinion on which is a better option: leasing or buying a car? Jon The best option by far is buying a car and paying cash. Other than that, it's really a matter of how long you want to make car payments: for years or forever, and

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment

2003-12-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Angel_888 wrote: Gays are free to marry but the disabled are NOT... (rest of text removed) Was that a spam? -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Battlestar Galactica mini series

2003-12-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
My reactions to the miniseries: They did a relatively good job of explaining why impossibly old tech would even be in use on a starship. Also, the Cylons did not seem to make much sense. I mean, they didn't necessarily have to attempt the extinction of humanity, espeically with the option for

Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
This should bring out the inherent nerd in all of us. Lets utilize our collective knowledge of our favorite fictional Universes, to map out intricate fictional scenarios of our own. For example, the other day a friend of mine asked me an interesting question. He wanted to know what type of

Re: Battlestar Galactica mini series

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
Also, the Cylons did not seem to make much sense. I mean, they didn't necessarily have to attempt the extinction of humanity, espeically with the option for diplomatic relations. There was no competition for resources, or even any contact for that matter between humans and cylons for

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
Thanks for the recommendations. As for Frank Herbert, I've been anxious to read the Dune series for a while; I STRONGLY reccommend Dune; its probably my #1 fave SF book of all time! If you decide to go with it, I'd also reccommend Dune Messiah, which I found to be a page turner. Some of the

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Science Fiction In General... Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:10:00 -0800 (PST) Thanks for the recommendations. As for Frank Herbert, I've been anxious to

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross. Nothing like a 40ft tall giant for fun. Arm them with light cannon and heavy machine guns (for 20th/21st C tech) and they can be pretty dangerous. Feeding them is the problem though... Damon :) =

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:28:56 -0800 (PST) Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross. Nothing like a 40ft tall giant

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
Yes feeding them would be a problem, thus rendering them impractical. yeah but you wouldn't need so many. Laundry day would be a challenge... Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Chad Cooper
Gremlins! Who needs conventional weapons or any sort of strategy?.. Just add water and turn them on your enemy... Nerd From Hell ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gremlins! Who needs conventional weapons or any sort of strategy?.. Just add water and turn them on your enemy... LOL Think I'll go for Tribbles - they'll 'purr' humans into submission and eat other species into starvation. Romulans ought to be

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
Here's another obscure candidate...the Vorox from the Fading Suns SFRPG. They're big, they're mean, they have 6 arms, they're hairy, they're GREEN. Plus some of them have poison claws. Think Kzinti but less sadistic, more instinctive, more arms, and uber loyal to their chosen group or tribe.

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:21:04 -0800 (PST) Here's another obscure candidate...the Vorox from the Fading Suns SFRPG.

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
Hmm. Never heard of em. Would they be easy to control? Are they as intelligent as my top three picks? Easy to control if they have vested interest to be loyal to you (otherwise no), and about as intelligent as, say, Jem'hadar (or at least no less so). Tell you what. Why don't you do a

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800 (PST) Easy to control if they have vested interest to be loyal to you (otherwise

RE: The Flu!

2003-12-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote In all of the news reports, they keep talking about the number of people who have died from the flu so far and how they are all children. As a parent of small children of my own, does any one know what age those kids are? How

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell Romulans ought to be serious candidates - although the Klingons certainly are more enthusiastic. Romulans would not come close to my top three picks. At least that's my opinion, after a very nerdy breakdown of my

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread G. D. Akin
Damon Agretto wrote: snip I STRONGLY reccommend Dune; its probably my #1 fave SF book of all time! If you decide to go with it, I'd also reccommend Dune Messiah, which I found to be a page turner. Some of the later books are not as good, but worth reading if you really like the first two...

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment

2003-12-12 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Matt Grimaldi wrote: Angel_888 wrote: Gays are free to marry but the disabled are NOT... (rest of text removed) Was that a spam? Yes, I don't know why people bother to reply. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Travis Edmunds wrote: (...) He wanted to know what type of species I would use, if I could magically have one million individuals of that species, as a ground force army. (...) Finally after much deliberation, I had the field narrowed down to three possible choices: -Klingons (Star Trek)

Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Jack Tackett - Netwharf
hum, no borgs or terminators? then my three would be: 1. Minbari (as long as they don't just go and surrender at the last second :) 2. The Race's little scaly devils from Turtledove's World War Series (need to train them to stay away from ginger and to use their teeth) 3. The Neolithic

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:13:09 + I would choose: - Humans (any Heinlein Universe) :-) Alberto

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Travis Edmunds wrote: I would choose: - Humans (any Heinlein Universe) :-) Ok, but why? In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest species in the cosmos. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: The Flu!

2003-12-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
From CNN QuickNews today: The number of states severely hit by the flu has more than doubled since last week and the illness is hitting the western part of the nation particularly hard, federal health officials reported Thursday. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta shares tips to keep you from catching the

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 13 Dec 2003, at 12:17 am, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Travis Edmunds wrote: I would choose: - Humans (any Heinlein Universe) :-) Ok, but why? In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest species in the cosmos. It was also a notion that Analog editor John W Campbell was keen

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Steve Sloan II
William T Goodall wrote: In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest species in the cosmos. It was also a notion that Analog editor John W Campbell was keen on with the result that there were a couple of generations of sf where the clever/tough/plucky/lucky humans defeated the

[Scouted] Drunk worms

2003-12-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
It's all in the genes...? http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/78/95777.htm?printing=true An intoxication gene controls whether alcohol makes one drunk, worm studies show. Alcohol has no effect on worms lacking the gene. But worms with a revved-up version of the gene act drunk even if they

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 12 Dec 2003, at 5:10 pm, Damon Agretto wrote: Thanks for the recommendations. As for Frank Herbert, I've been anxious to read the Dune series for a while; I STRONGLY reccommend Dune; its probably my #1 fave SF book of all time! If you decide to go with it, I'd also reccommend Dune Messiah,

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 13 Dec 2003, at 1:42 am, Steve Sloan II wrote: William T Goodall wrote: I read somewhere that Asimov had a humans-only universe to sidestep that editorial requirement. Then wrote _The Gods Themselves_ (with aliens) after JWC's death. That's also what I remember reading. In fact, it was

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread Damon Agretto
[1] What women call 'tidying up your office' men call 'losing stuff'. And it ends up at the Thrift Store or used book shop for some other unsuspecting sap to buy it so that it can be tidied up by the misses and re-enter circulation... Damon. =

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jack Tackett - Netwharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. hum, no borgs or terminators? then my three would be: 1. Minbari (as long as they don't just go and surrender

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Medievalbk
If you want to eliminate homo sapiens, I'd use H. B. Piper's Fuzzies. Whaa? I hear you ask. We'd evolve into something else. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Insurance

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3312701.stm Our building and contents insurance was through them. Went online and got new cover, effective immediately, and then online to the bank and cancelled the direct debit. They had already taken a monthly payment on the 2nd or so. A lot of people

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: I recently acquired a bunch of old Astounding/Analog and other sf mags from the late 50's and early 60's for next to nothing from a small-town used book store. Somebody died and their collection got bought for pennies. One of them was the Astounding that had the first

Re: Insurance

2003-12-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:12 PM 12/12/03, William T Goodall wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3312701.stm Our building and contents insurance was through them. Went online and got new cover, effective immediately, and then online to the bank and cancelled the direct debit. They had already taken a

Re: Black Market Body Parts

2003-12-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several of us had the beginnings of a talk in chat last week on black market body parts and the upswing in people selling off parts of their bodies. There is going to be a Talk of the Nation/afternoon NPR discussion on this today. I think I might be glad

Lesh

2003-12-12 Thread Trent Shipley
At least it is on topic. - Lesh ab-Tothtoon ab-Rosh ab-Kosh ab-Erbl ul-Zhuup ul-Vijls ul-Lith ul-Heebi The Lesh are at the pinnacle of their career as a main-sequence species. Staunch

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: Welcome to our humble chuckwagon. Pull up a seat and place your order. (Ignore the grime on the cooks fingers G) Can I order a meal I get to finish in total peace? :) I can ignore an awful lot of grime for that Julia

Re: Insurance

2003-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 09:12 PM 12/12/03, William T Goodall wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3312701.stm Our building and contents insurance was through them. Went online and got new cover, effective immediately, and then online to the bank and cancelled the direct debit.

Re: Insurance

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 13 Dec 2003, at 3:23 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: One of my pet peeves is deliberately suspenseful ghostposting . . . WHAT insurance company, so those who don't have dedicated high-speed connections can know if it is worth their time to click on the link or not? Sorry! Too annoyed to post

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 13 Dec 2003, at 3:24 am, Julia Thompson wrote: William T Goodall wrote: I recently acquired a bunch of old Astounding/Analog and other sf mags from the late 50's and early 60's for next to nothing from a small-town used book store. Somebody died and their collection got bought for pennies.

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread John Garcia
At 01:35 PM 12/12/2003 -03-30, you wrote: This should bring out the inherent nerd in all of us. Lets utilize our collective knowledge of our favorite fictional Universes, to map out intricate fictional scenarios of our own. For example, the other day a friend of mine asked me an interesting

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. Robert Seeberger wrote: Welcome to our humble chuckwagon. Pull up a seat and place your order.

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Klingons (Star Trek) -Jem'Hadar (Star Trek) -Jaffa (Stargate) From the Star Trek world, I'd take the Founders over the Jem'Hadar or the Klingons, any day, for obvious shape-shifting reasons. I guess the Q would be ruled out... A army of veiny-brainy's

Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread David Hobby
Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:28:56 -0800 (PST) Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross.

RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:57 PM 12/12/03, Bryon Daly wrote: From the comics: - While both Superman and the Martian Manhunter are heroes, IIRC, they are both just sole representatives of their races, so presumably the rest of their race would have equal powers. So could we pick Superman's race, or MMH's?

Re: Irregulars Question on Eudora

2003-12-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:44 AM 12/12/03, William T Goodall wrote: On 12 Dec 2003, at 7:48 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: With several hundred unique messages after a couple of days, and more arriving from you loquacious people all the time, going through and deleting them one at a time is not very practical, even