David Hobby wrote:
Accordingly, as early as Dec. 17, the Chicago City Council
is to vote on a proposal by Mr. Burke to ban the use of
camera phones in public bathrooms, locker rooms and
showers.
Most Australian local councils have already done this, and most
institutions also have signs at the
If you have noticed that I have been unusually quiet this week and wondered
what was responsible for your good fortune, I'm sorry to have to tell you
that I'm apparently back. Near as I can figure out, something in a spam
message did not agree with Eudora and it crashed. Getting the latest
At 11:15 AM 12/7/2003 -03-30, you wrote:
I know what you mean with the kids though. I come from a large family, and
I'm certanly aware of how much energy is expended in caring for them.
Quite a time consuming task.
Doesn't everyone come from somewhere?
Welcome to the list Travis.
Kevin T. -
William T Goodall wrote:
snip
Poul Anderson
Read The Boat of a Million Years
John Brunner
Stand on Zanzibar
Lois McMaster Bujold
The entire Miles Vorkosigan Saga (Memory is my favorite)
Thomas M Disch
Non-fiction: The Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of an excellent discussion
of SF
On 12 Dec 2003, at 7:48 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
With several hundred unique messages after a couple of days, and more
arriving from you loquacious people all the time, going through and
deleting them one at a time is not very practical, even though
obviously two copies of a message take up
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Back to telescopes...
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:27:50 -0500
Welcome to the list Travis.
Thank you.
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Science Fiction In General...
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:36:19 +0900
William T Goodall wrote:
snip
Poul Anderson
Read The Boat of a Million Years
I use a lot of filters in Eudora and typically sort
them by date when reading discussion groups. This
keeps things manageable, and I can tell which messages
are dupes when reading specific threads. I don't know
of an easy way to get rid of them, other than reading
a thread in question, skipping
Gary Nunn wrote:
Kind of long, and my score was embarrassingly low...but fun.
http://www.yetanotherdot.com/asp/80s.html
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Jon Gabriel wrote:
Out of curiosity, has anyone an opinion on which is a better option: leasing
or buying a car?
Jon
The best option by far is buying a car and paying cash.
Other than that, it's really a matter of how long you
want to make car payments: for years or forever, and
Angel_888 wrote:
Gays are free to marry but the disabled are NOT...
(rest of text removed)
Was that a spam?
-- Matt
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My reactions to the miniseries:
They did a relatively good job of explaining why impossibly
old tech would even be in use on a starship.
Also, the Cylons did not seem to make much sense. I mean, they
didn't necessarily have to attempt the extinction of humanity,
espeically with the option for
This should bring out the inherent nerd in all of us. Lets utilize our
collective knowledge of our favorite fictional Universes, to map out
intricate fictional scenarios of our own.
For example, the other day a friend of mine asked me an interesting
question. He wanted to know what type of
Also, the Cylons did not seem to make much sense. I
mean, they
didn't necessarily have to attempt the extinction of
humanity,
espeically with the option for diplomatic relations.
There was
no competition for resources, or even any contact
for that matter
between humans and cylons for
Thanks for the recommendations. As for Frank
Herbert, I've been anxious to
read the Dune series for a while;
I STRONGLY reccommend Dune; its probably my #1 fave SF
book of all time! If you decide to go with it, I'd
also reccommend Dune Messiah, which I found to be a
page turner. Some of the
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Science Fiction In General...
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:10:00 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for the recommendations. As for Frank
Herbert, I've been anxious to
Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross. Nothing
like a 40ft tall giant for fun. Arm them with light
cannon and heavy machine guns (for 20th/21st C tech)
and they can be pretty dangerous. Feeding them is the
problem though...
Damon :)
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From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:28:56 -0800 (PST)
Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross. Nothing
like a 40ft tall giant
Yes feeding them would be a problem, thus rendering
them impractical.
yeah but you wouldn't need so many. Laundry day would
be a challenge...
Damon.
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Damon Agretto
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Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
Gremlins!
Who needs conventional weapons or any sort of strategy?.. Just add water and
turn them on your enemy...
Nerd From Hell
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--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gremlins!
Who needs conventional weapons or any sort of
strategy?.. Just add water and
turn them on your enemy...
LOL
Think I'll go for Tribbles - they'll 'purr' humans
into submission and eat other species into starvation.
Romulans ought to be
Here's another obscure candidate...the Vorox from the
Fading Suns SFRPG. They're big, they're mean, they
have 6 arms, they're hairy, they're GREEN. Plus some
of them have poison claws. Think Kzinti but less
sadistic, more instinctive, more arms, and uber loyal
to their chosen group or tribe.
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:21:04 -0800 (PST)
Here's another obscure candidate...the Vorox from the
Fading Suns SFRPG.
Hmm. Never heard of em. Would they be easy to
control? Are they as
intelligent as my top three picks?
Easy to control if they have vested interest to be
loyal to you (otherwise no), and about as intelligent
as, say, Jem'hadar (or at least no less so).
Tell you what. Why don't you do a
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800 (PST)
Easy to control if they have vested interest to be
loyal to you (otherwise
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John wrote
In all of the news reports, they keep talking
about the
number of people who have died from the flu so far
and how
they are all children. As a parent of small
children of my own, does any one
know what age those kids are? How
Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell
Romulans ought to be serious candidates - although
the Klingons certainly are more enthusiastic.
Romulans would not come close to my top three picks.
At least that's my
opinion, after a very nerdy breakdown of my
Damon Agretto wrote:
snip
I STRONGLY reccommend Dune; its probably my #1 fave SF
book of all time! If you decide to go with it, I'd
also reccommend Dune Messiah, which I found to be a
page turner. Some of the later books are not as good,
but worth reading if you really like the first two...
Matt Grimaldi wrote:
Angel_888 wrote:
Gays are free to marry but the disabled are NOT...
(rest of text removed)
Was that a spam?
Yes, I don't know why people bother to reply.
Alberto Monteiro
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Travis Edmunds wrote:
(...) He wanted to know what type of species I would use, if I could
magically have one million individuals of that species, as a ground force
army. (...) Finally after much deliberation, I had
the field narrowed down to three possible choices:
-Klingons (Star Trek)
hum, no borgs or terminators? then my three would be:
1. Minbari (as long as they don't just go and surrender at the last second
:)
2. The Race's little scaly devils from Turtledove's World War Series
(need to train them to stay away from ginger and to use their teeth)
3. The Neolithic
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:13:09 +
I would choose:
- Humans (any Heinlein Universe) :-)
Alberto
Travis Edmunds wrote:
I would choose:
- Humans (any Heinlein Universe) :-)
Ok, but why?
In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest
species in the cosmos.
Alberto Monteiro
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From CNN QuickNews today:
The number of states severely hit by the flu has more than doubled since last
week and the illness is hitting the western part of the nation particularly
hard, federal health officials reported Thursday. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta
shares tips to keep you from catching the
On 13 Dec 2003, at 12:17 am, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Travis Edmunds wrote:
I would choose:
- Humans (any Heinlein Universe) :-)
Ok, but why?
In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest
species in the cosmos.
It was also a notion that Analog editor John W Campbell was keen
William T Goodall wrote:
In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest
species in the cosmos.
It was also a notion that Analog editor John W Campbell was
keen on with the result that there were a couple of generations
of sf where the clever/tough/plucky/lucky humans defeated the
It's all in the genes...?
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/78/95777.htm?printing=true
An intoxication gene controls whether alcohol makes
one drunk, worm studies show.
Alcohol has no effect on worms lacking the gene. But
worms with a revved-up version of the gene act drunk
even if they
On 12 Dec 2003, at 5:10 pm, Damon Agretto wrote:
Thanks for the recommendations. As for Frank
Herbert, I've been anxious to
read the Dune series for a while;
I STRONGLY reccommend Dune; its probably my #1 fave SF
book of all time! If you decide to go with it, I'd
also reccommend Dune Messiah,
On 13 Dec 2003, at 1:42 am, Steve Sloan II wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
I read somewhere that Asimov had a humans-only universe to
sidestep that editorial requirement. Then wrote _The Gods
Themselves_ (with aliens) after JWC's death.
That's also what I remember reading. In fact, it was
[1] What women call 'tidying up your office' men
call 'losing stuff'.
And it ends up at the Thrift Store or used book shop
for some other unsuspecting sap to buy it so that it
can be tidied up by the misses and re-enter
circulation...
Damon.
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From: Jack Tackett - Netwharf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
hum, no borgs or terminators? then my three would be:
1. Minbari (as long as they don't just go and surrender
If you want to eliminate homo sapiens, I'd use H. B. Piper's Fuzzies.
Whaa? I hear you ask.
We'd evolve into something else.
William Taylor
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3312701.stm
Our building and contents insurance was through them. Went online and
got new cover, effective immediately, and then online to the bank and
cancelled the direct debit. They had already taken a monthly payment
on the 2nd or so.
A lot of people
William T Goodall wrote:
I recently acquired a bunch of old Astounding/Analog and other sf mags
from the late 50's and early 60's for next to nothing from a small-town
used book store. Somebody died and their collection got bought for
pennies. One of them was the Astounding that had the first
At 09:12 PM 12/12/03, William T Goodall wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3312701.stm
Our building and contents insurance was through them. Went online and got
new cover, effective immediately, and then online to the bank and
cancelled the direct debit. They had already taken a
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several of us had the beginnings of a talk in chat
last week on black market
body parts and the upswing in people selling off
parts of their bodies. There
is going to be a Talk of the Nation/afternoon NPR
discussion on this today.
I think I might be glad
At least it is on topic.
-
Lesh ab-Tothtoon ab-Rosh ab-Kosh ab-Erbl
ul-Zhuup ul-Vijls ul-Lith ul-Heebi
The Lesh are at the pinnacle of their career as a main-sequence species.
Staunch
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Welcome to our humble chuckwagon. Pull up a seat and place your order.
(Ignore the grime on the cooks fingers G)
Can I order a meal I get to finish in total peace? :) I can ignore an
awful lot of grime for that
Julia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:12 PM 12/12/03, William T Goodall wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3312701.stm
Our building and contents insurance was through them. Went online and got
new cover, effective immediately, and then online to the bank and
cancelled the direct debit.
On 13 Dec 2003, at 3:23 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
One of my pet peeves is deliberately suspenseful ghostposting . . .
WHAT insurance company, so those who don't have dedicated high-speed
connections can know if it is worth their time to click on the link or
not?
Sorry! Too annoyed to post
On 13 Dec 2003, at 3:24 am, Julia Thompson wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
I recently acquired a bunch of old Astounding/Analog and other sf mags
from the late 50's and early 60's for next to nothing from a
small-town
used book store. Somebody died and their collection got bought for
pennies.
At 01:35 PM 12/12/2003 -03-30, you wrote:
This should bring out the inherent nerd in all of us. Lets utilize our
collective knowledge of our favorite fictional Universes, to map out
intricate fictional scenarios of our own.
For example, the other day a friend of mine asked me an interesting
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Welcome to our humble chuckwagon. Pull up a seat and place your order.
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Klingons (Star Trek)
-Jem'Hadar (Star Trek)
-Jaffa (Stargate)
From the Star Trek world, I'd take the Founders over the Jem'Hadar or the
Klingons, any day, for obvious shape-shifting reasons. I guess the Q would
be ruled out... A army of veiny-brainy's
Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:28:56 -0800 (PST)
Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross.
At 10:57 PM 12/12/03, Bryon Daly wrote:
From the comics:
- While both Superman and the Martian Manhunter are heroes, IIRC, they are
both just sole representatives of their races, so presumably the rest of
their race would have equal powers. So could we pick Superman's race, or
MMH's?
At 06:44 AM 12/12/03, William T Goodall wrote:
On 12 Dec 2003, at 7:48 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
With several hundred unique messages after a couple of days, and more
arriving from you loquacious people all the time, going through and
deleting them one at a time is not very practical, even
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