Re: Fair Trade

2008-09-13 Thread Richard Baker
Jon said: You have it bass ackwards, Rich. Fair trade makes poor people less poor. Some poor people less poor in the short term, anyway. Are you in favour of subsidies in general? (Not that fair trade is quite a subsidy, but it's close.) What is GCU Way? I was just commenting on being

Re: Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Rceeberger
On 9/13/2008 12:39:45 AM, Doug Pensinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hang in, Rob, keep us informed It is amazing watching the wind swirl the rain to and fro. The wind doesn't blow in a consistent direction, just chaotic variations of the general direction. It is like watching a fire rage.

Re: BOOKS

2008-09-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:11 PM Friday 9/12/2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: Jon wrote: recently, i've been reading a lot of british authors; lain banks, peter hamilton, ian mcdonald, ian r. and ken macleod, alastair reynolds, bob shaw, chas stross... i mostly read hi tech,, cutting edge, near future hard

Re: Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
I hope and pray* that the dawn is finding all of you in the storm area well and that any damage is as light as possible . . . *Those who find that part offensive are free to disregard it. ;) . . . ronn! :) ___

Re: Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread xponentrob
It is the tail end of the storm. Things are winding down. There are tree branchs and shredded trees everywhere I can see. A couple of hundred feet of wood fence is blown down. Several of the chimney covers were torn off the roofs of the buildings here. I have not seen any broken windows yet.

Re: Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 13, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I hope and pray* that the dawn is finding all of you in the storm area well and that any damage is as light as possible . . . *Those who find that part offensive are free to disregard it. ;) . . . ronn! :) I only find prayer

Re: Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, xponentrob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In dowtown Houston, the JPMorgan/Chase Tower, the tallest office building west of the Mississippi lost almost every window on one face of the building. Video is astounding. http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html Was just

Houston area without power

2008-09-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Most, if not all, of the Houston area is without power -- I've been hearing from folks who have heard from folks there that they've lost power and it may be as long as several days before it comes back. A friend whose dad is just south of Houston weathered the storm fine, aside from the loss

Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Jon Louis Mann
good luck, julia, i didn't realize you were on the coast. i have family in galveston. jon Jeez Jon...I hope they evaced. Galveston kinda sucks as an environment today. xponent The Ground Here Is Not Even Wet Yet Maru rob thanks, i'm sure they are all safe. i haven't been

Banks

2008-09-13 Thread Jon Louis Mann
So have you read Bank's most recent, Matter? I did! I did!! Unfortunately when I asked several months ago on this list and the Culture list* I seemed to be rather unique in being able to make that claim. i'm just starting chapter 18; it's great!~) jon

Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Jon Louis Mann
I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be done before 5:30, and then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture into the garage. The last thing I need is something thrown through a window again. Julia good luck, julia, i didn't realize you were on the

Re: Houston area without power

2008-09-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Most, if not all, of the Houston area is without power -- I've been hearing from folks who have heard from folks there that they've lost power and it may be as long as several days before it comes back. A friend whose dad is just south of

Re: Storm watch

2008-09-13 Thread Olin Elliott
I hope and pray* that the dawn is finding all of you in the storm area well and that any damage is as light as possible . . . *Those who find that part offensive are free to disregard it. ;) . . . ronn! :) I think even the most staunchly atheist of us can understand praying in those

Re: Houston area without power

2008-09-13 Thread Rceeberger
On 9/13/2008 1:35:03 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Most, if not all, of the Houston area is without power -- I've been hearing from folks who have heard from folks there that they've lost power and it may be as long as several days before it comes back. A friend whose dad

Re: BOOKS

2008-09-13 Thread Richard Baker
Ronn said: *BTW, I haven't heard anything from them in awhile . . . unlike a few years ago when that was a quite active list . . . 147 emails so far this month and around three thousand so far this year on the Culture List seems to be at least roughly comparable to Brin-L's 330 this month

Re: Houston area without power

2008-09-13 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote: On 9/13/2008 1:35:03 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Most, if not all, of the Houston area is without power -- I've been hearing from folks who have heard from folks there that they've lost power and it may be as long as several days

Culture link

2008-09-13 Thread Jon Louis Mann
147 emails so far this month and around three thousand so far this year on the Culture List seems to be at least roughly comparable to Brin-L's 330 this month and almost three thousand this year. Rich can you forward the link, rich? thanks. jon

Re: Culture link

2008-09-13 Thread Richard Baker
Jon said: can you forward the link, rich? thanks. Of course: http://www.culturelist.org/ Rich GCU Full of Dangerous Socialists ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Storm Aftermath

2008-09-13 Thread Rceeberger
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Some pics I took just after the storm ended, all within 50 or 60 yards of my front door. xponent Wrath Of Nature Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Storm Aftermath

2008-09-13 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Some pics I took just after the storm ended, all within 50 or 60 yards of my front door. Tennis court doubles as retention pond - was that by design? If so, that's reasonably clever. If not, well, at

Re: Storm Aftermath

2008-09-13 Thread Rceeberger
On 9/13/2008 2:47:37 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Some pics I took just after the storm ended, all within 50 or 60 yards of my front door. Tennis court doubles as retention pond -

Re: Storm Aftermath

2008-09-13 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote: On another note, the Houston Texans game against the Ravens has been *cancelled* due to damage to Reliant Stadiums retractable roof. Can't remember the last time that happened. Dude, they cancelled the UT game scheduled for today earlier this week!

Re: BOOKS

2008-09-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/09/2008, at 7:11 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I did! I did!! Unfortunately when I asked several months ago on this list and the Culture list* I seemed to be rather unique in being able to make that claim. Took a while to arrive was the problem. I liked it. Not his best, but a

Re: BOOKS

2008-09-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/09/2008, at 3:37 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Of the culture books, Matter was probably my least favorite. Many consider A Player of Games the best, but I prefer Consider Phlebus. If you like action, CP's the ticket. CP is great. My favourite is PoG, but I think Excession's

Anathem

2008-09-13 Thread John Williams
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, maybe I'll look at it and weigh it (and I could do that in more than one way!) and at least think about it. It definitely gets better. I'm on page 235 and I can't put it down. The first 80 pages were tough going for me, with long descriptive passages in

Re: Anathem

2008-09-13 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, John Williams wrote: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, maybe I'll look at it and weigh it (and I could do that in more than one way!) and at least think about it. It definitely gets better. I'm on page 235 and I can't put it down. The first 80 pages were tough

Re: BOOKS

2008-09-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: CP is great. My favourite is PoG, but I think Excession's probably the best. Use of Weapons is regarded as the best by many, but I don't think it stands up to a re-read as well as E, CP or PoG. Inversions I liked a lot better on my recent pre-Matter re-read of the whole lot