Re: Australian Fires and Floods

2009-02-09 Thread John Garcia
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:23 PM, sendai sen...@iicx.net wrote:

 Euan Ritchie wrote:
  It was almost a perfect storm for fire conditions.
 
 
  I'm 1,500 miles downwind and was reminded of the end to The Sheep Look
  Up last night when I thought I could smell faint burning on the air.
 

 I felt the same... I woke at ~2am, and I smelt burning outside. I looked
 up the local file listings and saw that they hadn't been updated since
 Friday. I then checked the wind and synoptic-charts from the past few
 days and saw that it was feasible that the winds from down there had
 brought with it dust and smoke... I still don't see any bush-fires or
 large-fires listed here, so it was either a bonfire or psychosomatic.
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New York Times reports 173 dead, hundreds homeless, and that the fire may
have been set.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10australia.html

good luck to all down under

john
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Re: Australian Fires and Floods

2009-02-09 Thread Charlie Bell

On 10/02/2009, at 8:54 AM, John Garcia wrote:

 New York Times reports 173 dead, hundreds homeless, and that the  
 fire may
 have been set.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10australia.html

It wasn't just a fire. It was a number of fires across several hundred  
kilometres. Several of them were deliberately lit, some of them were  
accidentally lit (although there's an argument that anyone breaking  
the Total Fire Ban rules on the conditions last week was as good as  
lighting a bushfire). The wikipedia article is pretty good on  
explaining what's been going on.

There are still 4 major fires burning with towns, property and people  
under threat. It's not over yet.

We've offered our spare room for emergency accomodation.

Charlie.


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Re: Australian Fires and Floods

2009-02-09 Thread Rceeberger

On 2/9/2009 3:54:44 PM, John Garcia (john...@gmail.com) wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:23 PM, sendai sen...@iicx.net wrote:

  Euan Ritchie wrote:
   It was almost a perfect storm for fire conditions.
  
  
  
 I'm 1,500 miles downwind and was reminded of the end to The Sheep Look
   Up last night when I thought I could smell faint burning on the air.
  
 
  I felt the same... I woke at ~2am, and I smelt burning outside. I looked
  up the local file listings and saw that they hadn't
 been updated since
  Friday. I then checked the wind and synoptic-charts from the past few
  days and saw that it was feasible that the winds from down there had
  brought with it dust and smoke... I still don't see any bush-fires or
  large-fires listed here, so it was either a bonfire or psychosomatic.
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 New York Times reports 173 dead, hundreds homeless, and that the fire may
 have been set.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10australia.html

 good luck to all down under

 john

There are towns in southern Australia where they won't let people back in, 
due to the numbers of bodies still lying in the streets. These towns are all 
quite rural, and there is just no way any governmental entities could be 
prepared for such a death toll over a broad area.
I really feel for their Prime Minister. Regardless of his politics, his 
humanity shows as he is completely lost for words and trying to hold back 
tears. (Watching news from there is hard, they have so much pain to deal 
with.)
Australia always stands with and by us though all sorts of ordeals. Anyone 
know of a good way an American can be helpful?

xponent
Recipricocity Maru
rob 

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Re: Australian Fires and Floods

2009-02-09 Thread sendai


Rceeberger wrote:
 Australia always stands with and by us though all sorts of ordeals. 
 Anyone
 know of a good way an American can be helpful?

 xponent
 Recipricocity Maru
 rob

The Australian Red Cross would likely be your best bet:
http://www.redcross.org.au/vic/services_emergencyservices_victorian-bushfires-appeal-2009.htm
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Brin: an Obama joke!

2009-02-09 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
After four years trying to fix USA's economy, Obama dies.

But he does not die alone: as an asteroid smashes against Earth,
everybody dies. However, in the confusion of dealing with
7 billion incoming souls, the afterlife bureaucracy sends Obama to Hell.

There, he complains, but only after a long time he is heard.

- 'I think I don't have to be here' he says 'I am aware that
I couldn't do much to save the economy, but I tried hard.
And, considering the utter mess that was sent to me, I
think I did a good job!'

The archangel gets his files, and says:

- 'Yes, I'm sorry. There was a terrible mistake here. You
were sent to Hell, yes, but not as a form of punishment.
You were sent to Hell to rule it and fix it. Hell after 6,000 
years of Satan administration isn't as hopeless as the USA
after 8 years of Bush administration.'

Alberto Monteiro
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Re: Brin: an Obama joke!

2009-02-09 Thread David Brin
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From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 3:42:48 PM
Subject: Brin: an Obama joke!

After four years trying to fix USA's economy, Obama dies.

But he does not die alone: as an asteroid smashes against Earth,
everybody dies. However, in the confusion of dealing with
7 billion incoming souls, the afterlife bureaucracy sends Obama to Hell.

There, he complains, but only after a long time he is heard.

- 'I think I don't have to be here' he says 'I am aware that
I couldn't do much to save the economy, but I tried hard.
And, considering the utter mess that was sent to me, I
think I did a good job!'

The archangel gets his files, and says:

- 'Yes, I'm sorry. There was a terrible mistake here. You
were sent to Hell, yes, but not as a form of punishment.
You were sent to Hell to rule it and fix it. Hell after 6,000 
years of Satan administration isn't as hopeless as the USA
after 8 years of Bush administration.'

Alberto Monteiro
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Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-09 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote:


 http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/

 Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global
 conspiracies are un-doable given the inability to herd all those  
 cats.

 I was disappointed that the EDS commercial was just ranked fifth on
 last week's show of all-time best Super Bowl commercials, 'cuz it
 leaves me ROTFLOL so hard I have tears in my eyes . . .

Maybe it came in 5th because the commercial is almost a decade old?

Dave


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